[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

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[Agger 1,664]

So much for "everybody's laughing at us if we elect Harris"

[copravolley 325]

  On 11/4/2024 at 8:48 PM, Agger said:

So much for "everybody's laughing at us if we elect Harris"

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Harris is totally green on foreign policy. It will probably be a policy 100% led by Biden's people. Harris' main campaign emphasis is on abortion and women's rights.

[copravolley 325]

I once read that Harris had never been to Europe before 2020, when she became vice president. On the other hand, her foreign policy will be more predictable, because it will be a continuation of Biden's policies. That is why I hope Harris wins, although the bookmakers are betting on Trump.

[konig 1,510]

  On 11/4/2024 at 9:03 PM, copravolley said:

I once read that Harris had never been to Europe before 2020, when she became vice president. On the other hand, her foreign policy will be more predictable, because it will be a continuation of Biden's policies. That is why I hope Harris wins, although the bookmakers are betting on Trump.

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More predictable is not always better, for me the goverment of Biden was one of the worst of the History of USA and i cant imagine what can happen with even a worse version like Harris is.

 

I hope, for the contrary, Trump be elected and "may be" the things changes for the better in the world.

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  On 11/4/2024 at 9:47 PM, konig said:

More predictable is not always better, for me the goverment of Biden was one of the worst of the History of USA and i cant imagine what can happen with even a worse version like Harris is.

 

I hope, for the contrary, Trump be elected and "may be" the things changes for the better in the world.

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It could be better, or it could be much worse, for example, if the accusations that he has been accepting large amounts of money from Russia since 2017 are confirmed. Now let Harris win, which will end Trump's political career and I hope that in 4 years the Republicans will put up someone more predictable.

 

 

btw, how is this controversial president of Argentina doing?

[konig 1,510]

  On 11/4/2024 at 9:55 PM, copravolley said:

It could be better, or it could be much worse, for example, if the accusations that he has been accepting large amounts of money from Russia since 2017 are confirmed. Now let Harris win, which will end Trump's political career and I hope that in 4 years the Republicans will put up someone more predictable.

 

 

btw, how is this controversial president of Argentina doing?

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The relation of Trump with Russia and, more specific, with Putin is probably the most controversial (being generous) thing of the presidence of Trump, i dont believe the same but is clearly that China help democrats in that election, both are playing their games.

 

In Argentina the society is clearly divided, the people who are in the left side of the politics, peronist and kirchnerism are very against the goverment, propably the only genuine "rigth-wing" goverment since the recovery of the democracy in 1983.

For me and the most part who are in the rigth wing: libertarians, nacionalist and conservatives, is probably the best goverment we see to this days, he made in his first year with a very few legislators in the congress some big and good changes:

 

1) In the economical: the inflation is only 3% per month since a more of 15% in the last months of the last year, Argentina has now fiscal, financial and comercial surplus-

 

2) Our country didnt have fighter planes and the goverment buy 24  American F16  -

 

3) He changes the electoral sistem for a "single ballot" sistem, we have an obsolete electoral sistem that doesnt change from the 19 century and specially, the peronist use for make fraud.

 

4) In my personal case, he really update the tax sistem for small/medium profesionals and traders.......and that save us to pay the 50% of our earnings to the state.

 

With a big expectations in the goverment, its better than i thinked before.

Edited November 5, 2024 by konig

[copravolley 325]

  On 11/4/2024 at 10:22 PM, konig said:

The relation of Trump with Russia and, more specific, with Putin is probably the most controversial (being generous) thing of the presidence of Trump, i dont believe the same but is clearly that China help democrats in that election, both are playing their games.

 

In Argentina the society is clearly divided, the people who are in the left side of the politics, peronist and kirchnerism are very against the goverment, propably the only genuine "rigth-wing" goverment since the recovery of the democracy in 1983.

For me and the most part who are in the rigth wing: libertarians, nacionalist and conservatives, is probably the best goverment we see to this days, he made in his first year with a very few legislators in the congress some big and good changes:

 

1) In the economical: the inflation is only 3% per month since a more of 15% in the last months of the last year, Argentina has now fiscal, financial and comercial surplus-

 

2) Our country didnt have fighter planes and the goverment buy 24  American F16  -

 

3) He chances the electoral sistem for a "single ballot" sistem, we have an obsolete electoral sistem that doesnt change from the 19 century and specially, the peronist use for make fraud.

 

4) In my personal case, he really update the tax sistem for smal/medium profesionals and traders.......and that save us to pay the 50% of our earnings to the state.

 

With a big expectations in the goverment, its better than i thinked before.

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It's good that Argentina is starting to get back on track economically. Every year, all of our alpine skiing teams train in August in Argentina in Ushuaia: "Fine del Mundo", as it advertises itself.

Edited November 4, 2024 by copravolley

[heywoodu 15,355]

  On 11/4/2024 at 9:03 PM, copravolley said:

I once read that Harris had never been to Europe before 2020, when she became vice president. On the other hand, her foreign policy will be more predictable, because it will be a continuation of Biden's policies. That is why I hope Harris wins, although the bookmakers are betting on Trump.

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Yeah, Harris might not be great, it is still definitely better than having an outright psychopath as president, again. At the very least it should be someone who is at least capable and willing to, you know, communicate like an adult. Trump very clearly can not do that, although one would assume his childish yelling and overall immensely bizarre way of speaking (from his intonation to his 'we did great, everyone thought it was great, they couldnt believe how great I was!') must appeal to a certain kind of person, I suppose.

[heywoodu 15,355]

  On 11/4/2024 at 10:22 PM, konig said:

2) Our country didnt have fighter planes and the goverment buy 24  American F16  -

 

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Huh, there's still countries buying F-16's?  

 

Coincidentally we said goodbye to our last ones a little over a month ago (Belgian ones are still sometimes flying here though).