[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[konig 1,583]

On 13/05/2021 at 21:33, thepharoah said:

This's not the Palestinian Israeli Conflict, this's a fascist religious country that wants to destroy any thing on map called Palestine, a country where u can force people to go out of their homes that they lived there for years, I wonder if Israel was made in Argentina would Argentians give them the chance to live side by side with them, or it's just Palestoan people that were innocent enough to be thrown of their homes like trash, I don't have any respect for Israel anymore , I know this's a political thing that has nothing to do with Civilians, but I can't imagine how people could steal other homes where they settle without feeling any regret for them, finally I can't name it Palestinian Israeli Conflict none dies in Israel when Children, women and innocent people die in Gaza , I lost any hope that there'll be piece, there won't be peace until There'll be nothing called Palestine anyone says anything else is such a liar 

Its curious you mention us in this....there is a theory whichs name is "Andinia plan" based in the south part of Argentina and Chile (Patagonia) will be used to make the same what happen in middle east, creating another jewish state.

Even today, there are people in Patagonia who dont threat well israelis for that reason, i dont know why but there are a lot of israelis making tourism in the Patagonia, most of them after finish the milirary service, i lived there and i see many, its the only "true fact" for me about this theory.

[Milan 26]

I can understand that the Arabs were not willing to accept the division of the country. If members of a different people came to our land, basically telling us: 'We claim half of this land (which was to approximately 90 percent owned by Arabs in 1948), because we were persecuted elsewhere and because this is our holy land and we lived here 2000 years ago, so make way for us and seek your luck somewhere else.', we probably wouldn't accept it either. If the Europeans are responsible for the situation (and I do believe they are historically those mainly responsible for the existence of this conflict), then they should have been the ones making way instead of dividing the country without involving those people affected into the decision.

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2 hours ago, konig said:

Its curious you mention us in this....there is a theory whichs name is "Andinia plan" based in the south part of Argentina and Chile (Patagonia) will be used to make the same what happen in middle east, creating another jewish state.

Even today, there are people in Patagonia who dont threat well israelis for that reason, i dont know why but there are a lot of israelis making tourism in the Patagonia, most of them after finish the milirary service, i lived there and i see many, its the only "true fact" for me about this theory.

I can assure you that no one here Is or no Jew (accept the Neturei Karta) are interested in other country outside this land.

there was Plan Uganda and it was rejected for the very same reasons.

as for the trip a lot of youngsters aged 21,22,23 that finished their military service are going for those trips as a “last time to do what they want as young before Uni” Argentina and South America in general are places that give access to Israeli without restrictions unlike Asia, some go to the US and Europe or Australia but South America is cheaper,meaning that they can do more things, another hot spot is India.

so don’t worry if I’ll go for Argentina it will be for a friendly visit and not for establishing another country 

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Hamas has been firing rockets non stop and one of them fell on the power line in south Israel, the very power line that connect Gaza to electricity...

nice way to shot them selfs in the foot...

Now it’s up to our engineers to try and fix it , under rockets fire.... 

[thepharoah 2,413]

4 hours ago, konig said:

Its curious you mention us in this....there is a theory whichs name is "Andinia plan" based in the south part of Argentina and Chile (Patagonia) will be used to make the same what happen in middle east, creating another jewish state.

Even today, there are people in Patagonia who dont threat well israelis for that reason, i dont know why but there are a lot of israelis making tourism in the Patagonia, most of them after finish the milirary service, i lived there and i see many, its the only "true fact" for me about this theory.

 

Argentina was planned to be land for Jewish before Palestine was chosen that's why i mentioned Argentina 

[thepharoah 2,413]

4 hours ago, Milan said:

I can understand that the Arabs were not willing to accept the division of the country. If members of a different people came to our land, basically telling us: 'We claim half of this land (which was to approximately 90 percent owned by Arabs in 1948), because we were persecuted elsewhere and because this is our holy land and we lived here 2000 years ago, so make way for us and seek your luck somewhere else.', we probably wouldn't accept it either. If the Europeans are responsible for the situation (and I do believe they are historically those mainly responsible for the existence of this conflict), then they should have been the ones making way instead of dividing the country without involving those people affected into the decision.

 

u hit the point , no one would have accepted this and now even Palestinians don't own 5% of the land and Israel wants to decrease this land and make the 2 states , even there were rumors during Muslim brotherhood era in Egypt that they want to make a new home for Palestinians in Sinai 

[thepharoah 2,413]

Egyptian hospitals made emergency at its most of receiving hundreds or Thousands of Injured people in Gaza and even there're more than 1000 doctors who volunteered to go to Gaza and help them, situation is really critical with the huge number of injured people , doctors here will have the load of Corona Virus and injured Palestinians, God help them 

[thepharoah 2,413]

And BTW Israel was refusing to allow Egyptian ambulances to go to Gaza strip at first 

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3 hours ago, thepharoah said:

And BTW Israel was refusing to allow Egyptian ambulances to go to Gaza strip at first 

You got raffah entrance under Egyptian control therefore could enter without “our permission “ I guess it was something over “ we want to get in so don’t shoot” because,again Egypt got a passage to the strip in it’s own control .

As for the second thing @konig could help me out here but Argentina is not the land from the bible, and the Jews in Argentina are located mostly in the capital, the whole idea of the Zionism is to establish a Jewish state in the land of the fathers-Israel, and again before 1948 there were no country here it was not something that was discussed as a thing yet, it was discussed to have an empire including the region but not an individual state, there is documentation of Jews living in the land of Israel, centuries ago, and the land was legally purchased (like in the case of Sehikh Jarrah) so to never accept any plan of country that includes Israel is dumb and the fact that people are still rooting and shouting to free them when they could be free but do not want it it’s annoying 

[Vektor 3,326]

This will just go on until one of the side will face a devastating loss and you can guess which side that will be. We (Hungary) "needed" a second World War and the total annihilation of nationalism by the communists to give up all our hopes of redrawing the borders that was made by the West. This conflict will end with the collapse of Hamas and with the final steps of the colonization of Palestine. This is the price Arabs pay for losing numerous wars and conflicts in that area.