[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[bestmen 2,827]

this ONU is just one terrorist organization working for the rich countries

 

usa wants this independence and of course the petrol like they did with Sudan

[bestmen 2,827]

ONU is with the independence of tha Occidental Sahara but france is against and used the veto , do you know why ?

 

cause they want to explore the petrol pacting with morocco in this area

 

the same thing with Palestne so ONU has no weight in this world only money

[heywoodu 15,174]

3 hours ago, George_D said:

whats your opinion for Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum?

Sounds like perfect fuel for the 5612376th war. Sadly.

[Agger 1,663]

5 hours ago, bestmen said:

Turkey Iran Irak Syria are against this , the Kurds want the war

it's the same problem in Catluna /Spain

 

 

they never understood the cosmopolitan countries are the strongest  !!?

seriously if every minority claims the independance the world will become 6 billions countries

 

This is not "every minority". This is a minority who has been a permanent part of the area for hundreds if not thousands of years, who has been oppressed several times and even promised referendums a couple of times without getting them (even the Iraqi constitution stated that a referendum was to be had in contested areas (like Kirkuk) no later than december 31st 2007. Lots of borders in the arab world are pretty arbitrary and even stupid, usually made throughout the colonial eras without much consideration about who lived there.

[bestmen 2,827]

Just now, Agger said:

 

This is not "every minority". This is a minority who has been a permanent part of the area for hundreds if not thousands of years, who has been oppressed several times and even promised referendums a couple of times without getting them (even the Iraqi constitution stated that a referendum was to be had in contested areas (like Kirkuk) no later than december 31st 2007. Lots of borders in the arab world are pretty arbitrary and even stupid, usually made throughout the colonial eras without much consideration about who lived there.

 

why don't you say the same thing with Palestinians and the Rohingyas of myanmar

[Gianlu33 4,615]

5 minutes ago, bestmen said:

 

why don't you say the same thing with Palestinians and the Rohingyas of myanmar

If of course agree whit the Palestinians' cause. Nothing so say about Rohingyas, I never read nothing about they.

[heywoodu 15,174]

6 minutes ago, Gianlu33 said:

If of course agree whit the Palestinians' cause. Nothing so say about Rohingyas, I never read nothing about they.

If stories are to be believed, the Rohingyas are both opressed and fighting with terrorist tactics to claim an own state. Again, that is if stories are to be believed, obviously none of us actually know what's exactly going on but I'd guess it's not so one-sided as we are hearing in the media  

[Agger 1,663]

7 minutes ago, bestmen said:

 

why don't you say the same thing with Palestinians and the Rohingyas of myanmar

 

I would love an independant (and completely official) Palestine. Sadly some people on both sides of the conflict won't be calm before the other one is completely destroyed.

 

I don't know enough about the history of the Rohingyas to say whether they should have an independant country, but they should without the slightest bit of doubt be helped.

[bestmen 2,827]

Just now, Agger said:

 

I would love an independant (and completely official) Palestine. Sadly some people on both sides of the conflict won't be calm before the other one is completely destroyed.

 

I don't know enough about the history of the Rohingyas to say whether they should have an independant country, but they should without the slightest bit of doubt be helped.

 

Just now, heywoodu said:

If stories are to be believed, the Rohingyas are both opressed and fighting with terrorist tactics to claim an own state. Again, that is if stories are to be believed, obviously none of us actually know what's exactly going on but I'd guess it's not so one-sided as we are hearing in the media  

 

the story of Rohingyas is simple and easy to understand , they are persecuted because they didn't fight against British when they colonised this area

 

so they are seen like traitors and should be punished

[Agger 1,663]

15 minutes ago, bestmen said:

 

 

the story of Rohingyas is simple and easy to understand , they are persecuted because they didn't fight against British when they colonised this area

 

so they are seen like traitors and should be punished

 

There is no such thing as simple and easy history. Therefore I will not take a stand to anything other than that a people should of course never be oppressed before I know more about it!