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Alpine Skiing at the Winter Olympic Games 2018


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Just now, LowerSaxony said:

Of course we don't. How could we? But it shows that even later BIBs have a chance to beat Dressen. Btw we do not see around 40% of the course.

As I said, track has been getting gradually worse, which I think it’s pretty obvious to see. 

 

My point still stands, Hirscher was extremely lucky to get the bib2, it was the best possible bib today for skiers ranked 11-20 on start list rankings.

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vor 6 Minuten schrieb Shiffrin:

Let me refer to you to the 2nd training where Hirscher was +3.91 seconds behind on this same course, while he may not have been going 100%, it’s still stupid to think his run today wasn’t helped by great conditions as opposed to later bibs.

I think it's stupid to draw anything from the training runs, the course is completely different + (as Dreßen said before the race) the snow conditions completely changed (much more agressive), but i see that you are not willing to talk about facts, so why not save us both some time?

Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached.
 

 

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Just now, OlympicsFan said:

I think it's stupid to draw anything from the training runs, the course is completely different + (as Dreßen said before the race) the snow conditions completely changed (much more agressive), but i see that you are not willing to talk about facts, so why not save us both some time?

So you seriously think Hirscher had the same conditions as Kilde, Bennett and Caviezel? :wall:

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Gerade eben schrieb Shiffrin:

As I said, track has been getting gradually worse, which I think it’s pretty obvious to see.

Sorry I don't see facts that support your thesis. But you have the right for your own opinion.

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1 minute ago, LowerSaxony said:

Sorry I don't see facts that support your thesis. But you have the right for your own opinion.

Rewatch the race and also look at the wind that accompanied Bennett and Kilde. I mean even some slalom specialists are in front of Bennett.

 

So how are you going to deny that bib 2 wasn’t better than bibs 14-20

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vor 5 Minuten schrieb Shiffrin:

Rewatch the race and also look at the wind that accompanied Bennett and Kilde. I mean even some slalom specialists are in front of Bennett.

 

So how are you going to deny that bib 2 wasn’t better than bibs 14-20

Do you really think that the wind had any influence on the eventual medallists? Do you really think that Hirscher should be much more than 0.2-0.3 s ahead of Hirscher on a course like that? Even if Hirscher and Dreßen both would have been 0.5 seconds slower, than what exactly would have changed? Gold/silver still would have been between Hirscher and Pinturault and bronze probably between Schwarz, Aerni, Muffat-Jandet and maybe someone else. The speed guys never had a medal chance today.

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3 minutes ago, dcro said:

Von Appen makes million mistakes and still less than 2 secs behind. Yeah, wind has no influence. :lol:

Von Appen is a well-known specialist who you'd clearly expect to finish close to the top. Obviously. 

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