Boxing WB World Championships 2025

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No less then three women advanced to the semi-finals  

 

Julia Szeremeta just beat Ibragimova 3-2 and joins Rygielska & Kaczmarska who upset the Zhan.

[copravolley 564]

I wonder if Irma Testa will return to the 57 kg category? She was supposed to win a certain gold in Paris, but she was eliminated by the Chinese in her first round... Previously, she won gold at the World Championships in 2023. The boxing in Paris didn't go well for us, but it must be admitted that we probably didn't have probably any good contact with the judges... I don't know, were they so confident that they thought Testa and Abbes would win only based on their names and class?

Edited September 10, 2025 by copravolley

[copravolley 564]

That Lenzi is hopeless. If he doesn't win a medal here with such a great draw, he never will. Unfortunately, our men's amateur boxing is nonexistent, apart from Abbes, whom we ourselves threw out. Honor has been preserved, as Charaabi will probably win the bronze, but I don't see any progress in this discipline, especially among the men. We had one star and the rest were mediocre, and that's how it stayed, and we threw out the star. It's a huge disappointment. We'll win one medal here- probably a bronze for Charaabi. That's supposed to be a success? And why are we getting kick of our top three fighter to watch someone like Lenzi, who has absolutely no potential at 90+? Lenzi drew a weak Chinese, won the first round 4-1 and then stopped fighting. With that attitude, he should give up on the sport, because he'll never win a medal with his height and physical condition.

Edited September 10, 2025 by copravolley

[Olympicsnell 332]

Gutted for thomas throwing that away against the cuban, but at 20 and with an eye on LA i think hes gonna be a problem if he can improve tactically 

 

[Prashanth 184]

India had a poor championships 

 

Women

48kg - Minakshi plays in QF

51kg  - Nikhat lost in QF

57kg - Jasmine plays in SF

80kg - Pooja plays in SF

80+kg - Nupur plays in SF

 

Men

50kg - Jadumani plays in QF

65kg - Abhinash lost in QF

[Ogreman 379]

Medals

 

	Medals	Predicted Medals
Uzbekistan	11	10
Kazkahstan	10	11
China	5	5
GB/ England	5	3
India	4	7
Brazil	4	5
Turkey	3	6
Cuba	3	4
Ireland	3	3
Australia	3	3
Poland	3	2
Japan	3	2
Chinese Taipei	2	3
Bulgaria	2	2
Spain	2	1
Mongolia	2	1
Azerbaijan	2	0
France	1	1
South Korea	1	1
Ukraine	1	1
Hungary	1	1
Jordan	1	1
Italy	1	1
USA	1	1
Croatia	1	0
Georgia	1	0
Venezuela	1	0
Colombia	1	0
Canada	1	0
Austria	1	0
Philippines	0	2
Finland	0	1
Germany	0	1
New Zealand	0	1

 

So all of the quarter finals are now decided. The Brits naturally as hosts have overperformed realtive to expectation although they have only one fight that comes to mind that I would describe as a blatant hometown decison (Will Hewitt  vs Munarbek Seitbek Uulu ). India and Turkey have both had dissapointing championships really regardless of how the medal fights go.

I knew predicting Uzbekistan not to top the medal table would probably not age well although Kazakhstan still have a shot even if they have one fewer medallist.

The judging overall has been pretty poor with some confusing decisions unfortanately from my perspective 3/4 involving Irish boxers but I mean its not any worse than it was last year.

 

In terms of my predictions, I am relatively happy.

 

Prediction medal accuracy
Mens	Womens	Overall
60%	65%	62.5%

 

60% is a good target and we are slightly over it so I'm happy enough with myself. W60kg was the only weightclass I got all 4 medallists right but unfortanately a slightly questionable decision in the semi final between Aneta Rygielska  and Yang Chengyu  means I won't have any of the weightclasses 100% right. Not sure I feel great about how many of the golds I will get right but we will see.

 

 

Finally I have been a bit confused by some of the opinions expressed in this thread, uhm so Damar Thomas  did not throw his fight away against la Cruz , He drew la Cruz out of his shell and then la Cruz showed why he his a far superior boxer despite his size disadvantage. This was opinion also expressed by the comentators and all I'll say there is think of the commentators like an extra judge sometimes they are insightful and get things right and other times they spectacularly wrong.

I can't say I am convinced by Damar Thomas, He is solid enough like but I don't think he has that high a ceiling.

 

Then we get to Italy, First of all the Lenzi  Bayikewuzi  fight, A lot of the reason I like to write these predictions and do rankings and stuff is to clear up this kind of confusion. 

On 9/10/2025 at 10:00 PM, copravolley said:

Lenzi drew a weak Chinese

Danabieke Bayikewuzi is not a bad boxer, In fact he is quite a good one and if anything is probably a slightly better boxer than Diego Lenzi. I picked Lenzi because I though his power would prevail but it didn't, It wasn't some terrible performance, he just got beaten by an equally good boxer.

 

Finally maybe I have a very different perception fo where Italy belongs in the global boxing pecking order but to me this is just like a solid enough Italian squad. Obviously it is missing a couple of big names in Aziz Abbes Mouhiidine  and Irma Testa  (Angela Carini's  presence makes absolutely no difference to the quality of this squad) but 2 things on Testa and Mouhiidine. 1. Yes they are good boxers, no they are nowhere near as good as the Italians on this site think they are. Maybe they would have medalled here or maybe they wouldn't who knows? 2. You are going to have to replace them at some point. I know they aren't that old but they have both been around for a long time in amateur boxing terms at this point and because both are kind of more awkward to box than anything else at some point people just figure out how to beat you. Put it this way even if they do come back into the picture, I would pretty surprised if either ended up medalling in LA.

 

Edited September 12, 2025 by Ogreman

[copravolley 564]

6 minutes ago, Ogreman said:

Medals

 

	Medals	Predicted Medals
Uzbekistan	11	10
Kazkahstan	10	11
China	5	5
GB/ England	5	3
India	4	7
Brazil	4	5
Turkey	3	6
Cuba	3	4
Ireland	3	3
Australia	3	3
Poland	3	2
Japan	3	2
Chinese Taipei	2	3
Bulgaria	2	2
Spain	2	1
Mongolia	2	1
Azerbaijan	2	0
France	1	1
South Korea	1	1
Ukraine	1	1
Hungary	1	1
Jordan	1	1
Italy	1	1
USA	1	1
Croatia	1	0
Georgia	1	0
Venezuela	1	0
Colombia	1	0
Canada	1	0
Austria	1	0
Philippines	0	2
Finland	0	1
Germany	0	1
New Zealand	0	1

 

So all of the quarter finals are now decided. The Brits naturally as hosts have overperformed realtive to expectation although they have only one fight that comes to mind that I would describe as a blatant hometown decison (Will Hewitt  vs Munarbek Seitbek Uulu ). India and Turkey have both had dissapointing championships really regardless of how the medal fights go.

I knew predicting Uzbekistan not to top the medal table would probably not age well although Kazakhstan still have a shot even if they have one fewer medallist.

The judging overall has been pretty poor with some confusing decisions unfortanately from my perspective 3/4 involving Irish boxers but I mean its not any worse than it was last year.

 

In terms of my predictions, I am relatively happy.

 

Prediction medal accuracy
Mens	Womens	Overall
60%	65%	62.5%

 

60% is a good target and we are slightly over it so I'm happy enough with myself. W60kg was the only weightclass I got all 4 medallists right but unfortanately a slightly questionable decision in the semi final between Aneta Rygielska  and Yang Chengyu  means I won't have any of the weightclasses 100% right. Not sure I feel great about how many of the golds I will get right but we will see.

 

 

Finally I have been a bit confused by some of the opinions expressed in this thread, uhm so Damar Thomas did not throw his fight away against la Cruz, He drew la Cruz out of his shell and then la Cruz showed why he his a far superior boxer despite his size disadvantage. I can't say I am convinced by Damar Thomas, He is solid enough like but I don't think he has that high a ceiling.

 

Then we get to Italy, First of all the Lenzi  Bayikewuzi  fight, A lot of the reason I like to write these predictions and do rankings and stuff is to clear up this kind of confusion. 

Danabieke Bayikewuzi is not a bad boxer, In fact he is quite a good one and if anything is probably a slightly better boxer than Diego Lenzi. I picked Lenzi because I though his power would prevail but it didn't, It wasn't some terrible performance, he just got beaten by an equally good boxer.

 

Finally maybe I have a very different perception fo where Italy belongs in the global boxing pecking order but to me this is just like a solid enough Italian squad. Obviously it is missing a couple of big names in Aziz Abbes Mouhiidine  and Irma Testa  (Angela Carini's  presence makes absolutely no difference to the quality of this squad) but 2 things on Testa and Mouhiidine. 1. Yes they are good boxers, no they are nowhere near as good as the Italians on this site think they are. Maybe they would have medalled here or maybe they wouldn't who knows? 2. You are going to have to replace them at some point. I know they aren't that old but they have both been around for a long time in amateur boxing terms at this point and because both are kind of more awkward to box than anything else at some point people just figure out how to beat you. Put it this way even if they do come back into the picture, I would pretty surprised if either ended up medalling in LA.

 

Do you think Abbes was robbed of a gold medal at the 2023 World Championships and the 2024 Olympics? Honestly? Testa was injured before Paris and now it's unclear whether she'll withdraw. I just have a feeling that if the judges had been a little more attentive, Abbes would have two World Championship gold medals and probably an Olympic gold medal (the first-round fight against the Uzbek, which should have been early final, was ridiculous and just an unlucky draw). 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2025 by copravolley

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10 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Do you think Abbes was robbed of a place at the 2023 World Championships and the 2024 Olympics? Honestly? Testa was injured before Paris, and now it's unclear whether she'll withdraw. I just have a feeling that if the judges had been a little more attentive, Abbes would have two World Championship gold medals and probably an Olympic gold medal (the first-round fight against the Uzbek, which should have been the final, was ridiculous).

Robbed is a strong word. I would have to rewatch the 2023 world final to be sure. I do remember thinking that Mouhiidine was unlucky not to beat Gadhzimagomedov  there.

The Olympics last year, Yes it was a very tough draw but there was always going to be a few of those. I mean Loren Alfonso Domnigues  and Julio Cesar la Cruz  also met in the last 16.

The Mouhiidine Mullojonov  in Paris, it was close but no I didn't think it was a robbery. 

So 2023 worlds maybe, Olympics no.

Edited September 12, 2025 by Ogreman

[copravolley 564]

1 minute ago, Ogreman said:

Robbed is a strong word. I would have to rewatch the 2023 world final to be sure. I do remember thinking that Mouhiidine was unlucky not to beat Gadhzimagomedov  there.

The Olympics last year, Yes it was a very tough draw but there was always going to be a few of those. I mean Loren Alfonso Domnigues  and Julio Cesar la Cruz  also met in the last 16.

The Mouhiidine Mullojonov  in Paris, it was close but no I didn't think it was a robbery. 

Abbes started the first round poorly in Paris, which he lost. I don't understand why that happened. Then he had to chase, things got tense and he was injured and bleeding. The fight definitely could have been prepared better, since it was clear who his opponent was. However, if it had happened in the semifinals or the final, he would have at least had a medal, but as it was, he was left with nothing. After that, the Uzbek basically had no problems on his way to gold. It's just sad, that's all, even if the Italian coaching staff somewhat disregarded that first round.

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Rygielska floored Yang in the second round, got a point deducted in the last one but still won