Cross-Country Skiing Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026 Road to Milano Cortina 2026

[copravolley 515]

57 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 Falcade FESA Cup is ON  

 

Just need to make sure the federation registers her in time. They're trying, but they sent it to the wrong email address, even though the correct one is very clearly listed in the easy to find invitation...oh well, I guess it'll work out  

 

Bruna will by then be basically the only athlete from a small nation who has competed in every single FESA Cup race this season so far, that's quite nice. It'll end there though, since the 5th and 6th stages (Planica and Premanon in March) seem quite useless for the Olympic points, and not really worth the investment.

I've been to Falcade a few times for alpine skiing: I think you go down from Passo San Pellegrino but maybe I'm mistaken, because it was quite a while ago.

Btw., do you have any Brazilian ancestry? Where does your fascination with that country come from?

[heywoodu 16,016]

47 minutes ago, copravolley said:

I've been to Falcade a few times for alpine skiing: I think you go down from Passo San Pellegrino but maybe I'm mistaken, because it was quite a while ago.

Btw., do you have any Brazilian ancestry? Where does your fascination with that country come from?

My first girlfriend was Brazilian, and I already had an interest in winter sports...then I kind of started paying attention to Brazilian winter athletes and long story short, a few years after the relationship ended I started dating a Brazilian winter athlete and here we are, more than 7 years later, living in our home and figuring everything out towards the Olympics

 

[Grassmarket 4,062]

On 1/3/2025 at 3:40 PM, heywoodu said:

Hello from Oberwiesenthal, where there will be FESA Cup races tomorrow and Sunday

 

Spot the Brazilian, I assure you she's on the photo

 

Damn, would you believe there was actually a livestream on YT of all these races?  OK, coverage is pretty primitive with a limited number of fixed cameras, no drones etc, but it is there!

 

 

[heywoodu 16,016]

56 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

Damn, would you believe there was actually a livestream on YT of all these races?  OK, coverage is pretty primitive with a limited number of fixed cameras, no drones etc, but it is there!

 

 

I know, the speaker mentioned it  

 

In the women's mass start you see Bruna in the pack, but at the end of lap 1 you sadly see her pull up and stop the race because of the foot thing.

[heywoodu 16,016]

If following the Brazilian federation's published criteria and the way the rankings are made, Jaqueline Mourão and Bruna should be the ones competing in the team sprint at the world championships in Trondheim. Eduarda Ribera ended up in 3rd (criteria are clear: top-2 does the team sprint), and would likely have been 2nd if she had 'simply' done a somewhat decent race last Saturday, the last opportunity before the rankings closed, but somehow they didn't send her there*.

 

*

Spoiler

she'd also have been in 2nd if she had NOT done a rollerski race in November 2023. The way the ranking is made is so odd, that actually skipping those rollerski races in Brazil would have been better. The best 4 sprint results in certain competitions (like Continental Cups) and countries (the main cross-country countries) within a certain timeframe are used for the ranking. Brazilian rollerski races are also counted, but with a penalty: if your best 4 results in terms of FIS points are from there, you get a 100% penalty, for 3 results you get 25%, for 2 results it's 10%, while 1 result is allowed without a penalty.

 

In other words, if your results within the timeframe are like this, you're screwed:

 

4x 280.00 points in Brazilian rollerski races

7x 281.00 points in European snow races

 

Obviously 281 points in those European races is, in terms of quality, better. However, according to the criteria, the four times 280 will count...resulting in a 100% penalty, so 560 points. Someone who didn't compete in Brazil, but got four times 500 points in European races, arguably less good, would end up with no penalty and so 500 points, beating the other one.

 

It's just so odd, and this made it so important to kick out the Brazilian results while on snow.

 

Anyway, whichever way of counting penalties you take, Bruna ended up 1st in the ranking, so she should definitely be in for the Trondheim team sprint (which, in turn, is important towards the Olympics). Now it's a matter of waiting for the federation to actually publish the ranking, their 'rankings' page has been under construction since they moved to a new website, like 2 years ago.

 

https://cbdn.org.br/atletas-ranking/

 

Edited January 14 by heywoodu

[Grassmarket 4,062]

Norwegian National Championships this weekend - live and FTA on nrk.tv

 

https://tv.nrk.no/serie/ski-nm

[Swewi 460]

World junior champion Alvar Myhlback is not selected to the world junior championship this season 

[heywoodu 16,016]

2 hours ago, Swewi said:

World junior champion Alvar Myhlback is not selected to the world junior championship this season 

Makes me curious who they picked over him, even though his progress seems to have stopped a bit this season.

[heywoodu 16,016]

On 1/14/2025 at 4:10 PM, heywoodu said:

If following the Brazilian federation's published criteria and the way the rankings are made, Jaqueline Mourão and Bruna should be the ones competing in the team sprint at the world championships in Trondheim. Eduarda Ribera ended up in 3rd (criteria are clear: top-2 does the team sprint), and would likely have been 2nd if she had 'simply' done a somewhat decent race last Saturday, the last opportunity before the rankings closed, but somehow they didn't send her there*.

 

*

  Reveal hidden contents

she'd also have been in 2nd if she had NOT done a rollerski race in November 2023. The way the ranking is made is so odd, that actually skipping those rollerski races in Brazil would have been better. The best 4 sprint results in certain competitions (like Continental Cups) and countries (the main cross-country countries) within a certain timeframe are used for the ranking. Brazilian rollerski races are also counted, but with a penalty: if your best 4 results in terms of FIS points are from there, you get a 100% penalty, for 3 results you get 25%, for 2 results it's 10%, while 1 result is allowed without a penalty.

 

In other words, if your results within the timeframe are like this, you're screwed:

 

4x 280.00 points in Brazilian rollerski races

7x 281.00 points in European snow races

 

Obviously 281 points in those European races is, in terms of quality, better. However, according to the criteria, the four times 280 will count...resulting in a 100% penalty, so 560 points. Someone who didn't compete in Brazil, but got four times 500 points in European races, arguably less good, would end up with no penalty and so 500 points, beating the other one.

 

It's just so odd, and this made it so important to kick out the Brazilian results while on snow.

 

Anyway, whichever way of counting penalties you take, Bruna ended up 1st in the ranking, so she should definitely be in for the Trondheim team sprint (which, in turn, is important towards the Olympics). Now it's a matter of waiting for the federation to actually publish the ranking, their 'rankings' page has been under construction since they moved to a new website, like 2 years ago.

 

https://cbdn.org.br/atletas-ranking/

 

And there we are. Brazilian federation posted the rankings and they did so with the, in my opinion, wrong interpretation. They got the same results as what I assume the coaches got, but different than mine. An email was sent about this and it has been corrected immediately, so oddly enough, from my little sofa in the Netherlands I was the only one who actually interpreted the criteria correctly in a language I barely speak, not even the federation that made the criteria did it correctly at first  

 

Quite astonishing. Bruna Moura, Jaqueline Mourão, Eduarda Ribera and Mirlene Picin have qualified for the Trondheim world championships, that much was already clear. However, instead of Bruna and Eduarda, as the federation said and as everyone's coach seemed to think, it will be Bruna and Jaqueline doing the team sprint, because they are in fact the top-2 in the national sprint ranking.

[Grassmarket 4,062]

1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

And there we are. Brazilian federation posted the rankings and they did so with the, in my opinion, wrong interpretation. They got the same results as what I assume the coaches got, but different than mine. An email was sent about this and it has been corrected immediately, so oddly enough, from my little sofa in the Netherlands I was the only one who actually interpreted the criteria correctly in a language I barely speak, not even the federation that made the criteria did it correctly at first  

 

Quite astonishing. Bruna Moura, Jaqueline Mourão, Eduarda Ribera and Mirlene Picin have qualified for the Trondheim world championships, that much was already clear. However, instead of Bruna and Eduarda, as the federation said and as everyone's coach seemed to think, it will be Bruna and Jaqueline doing the team sprint, because they are in fact the top-2 in the national sprint ranking.

Always a race to look forward to, there have been some epic  v  v  clashes in the past.