copravolley 229 Posted August 10 #281 Share Posted August 10 I hope that tomorrow we will win the women's volleyball final against the USA and their 1st place in the medal table will be strong dangerous by this :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerMne 1,020 Posted August 10 #282 Share Posted August 10 I am neutral here but USA needs to change something. Only time, AFAIK, when China topped the medal table was in 2008. In Rio USA had 40 + golds, China less than 30. In Tokyo China was down by 1. Now, USA will 99% lose this battle. System in USA is obviously fragile in all sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 229 Posted August 10 #283 Share Posted August 10 Just now, ChandlerMne said: I am neutral here but USA needs to change something. Only time, AFAIK, when China topped the medal table was in 2008. In Rio USA had 40 + golds, China less than 30. In Tokyo China was down by 1. Now, USA will 99% lose this battle. System in USA is obviously fragile in all sports. The USA still wins the most medals but China is going more into specialization, e.g. in diving they have collected a dozen or so gold medals (a full set). The USA has recently entered fencing and wrestling more strongly but these are still not disciplines where they can be 100% sure of gold, like China in diving or table tennis. In general, the USA, as a country, has big problems now, also financial ones and this is also reflected in sports. It`s not an authoritarian country that tried to cover up its internal problems by winning a lot of medals at the games, e.g. the USSR, the DDR, etc. konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,414 Posted August 10 #284 Share Posted August 10 3 minutes ago, ChandlerMne said: I am neutral here but USA needs to change something. Only time, AFAIK, when China topped the medal table was in 2008. In Rio USA had 40 + golds, China less than 30. In Tokyo China was down by 1. Now, USA will 99% lose this battle. System in USA is obviously fragile in all sports. No more athlete scholarships for foreigners, problem solved MedalChampion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngyojiw 29 Posted August 10 #285 Share Posted August 10 4 minutes ago, ChandlerMne said: I am neutral here but USA needs to change something. Only time, AFAIK, when China topped the medal table was in 2008. In Rio USA had 40 + golds, China less than 30. In Tokyo China was down by 1. Now, USA will 99% lose this battle. System in USA is obviously fragile in all sports. Still not too sure that US will lose. US will probably lose when today ends but there are still basketball and volleyball tomorrow. But yeah, just looking at lots of Silver and Bronzes its clear they are underperforming. Somebodyyouknow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedalChampion 35 Posted August 10 #286 Share Posted August 10 6 minutes ago, ChandlerMne said: I am neutral here but USA needs to change something. Only time, AFAIK, when China topped the medal table was in 2008. In Rio USA had 40 + golds, China less than 30. In Tokyo China was down by 1. Now, USA will 99% lose this battle. System in USA is obviously fragile in all sports. I don't think the US system is fragile. It's more that the United States is facing increased competition in their traditional sports (Australia in swimming, Canada in athletics, etc.). Meanwhile, China continues to dominate in its preferred sports (diving, table tennis, etc.). konig and Gianlu33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 229 Posted August 10 #287 Share Posted August 10 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MedalChampion said: I don't think the US system is fragile. It's more that the United States is facing increased competition in their traditional sports (Australia in swimming, Canada in athletics, etc.). Meanwhile, China continues to dominate in its preferred sports (diving, table tennis, etc.). I wonder if anyone is able to compete equally in diving with China? Maybe they should try to change the rules to make the competition more equal? Competing only for 3rd place in individual starts is a bit boring, and there are a lot of such competitions there. Table tennis is not that big of a problem, because there are only 5 events, I think. Edited August 10 by copravolley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerMne 1,020 Posted August 10 #288 Share Posted August 10 4 minutes ago, copravolley said: It`s not an authoritarian country that tried to cover up its internal problems by winning a lot of medals at the games, e.g. the USSR, the DDR, etc. Maybe not an authoritarian country but USA uses this medal table in broader sense than just sportive one. I have no doubt about that. Olympic success was and will always be used in many other causes, politic ones too. China is expanding in all sports, USA loses dominance in their traditional strongholds. But i agree, China does know where are their best opportunities and uses that to the max. konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedalChampion 35 Posted August 10 #289 Share Posted August 10 4 minutes ago, copravolley said: I wonder if anyone is able to compete equally in diving with China? Maybe they should try to change the rules to make the competition more equal? Competing only for 3rd place in individual starts is a bit boring, and there are a lot of such competitions there. Table tennis is not that big of a problem, because there are only 5 events, I think. We could limit the maximum number of athletes per nation (for example, 6 as in weightlifting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerMne 1,020 Posted August 10 #290 Share Posted August 10 9 minutes ago, LDOG said: No more athlete scholarships for foreigners, problem solved Not that they dont think about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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