phelps 7,741 Posted June 23, 2024 #61 Share Posted June 23, 2024 9 hours ago, Cobi said: That's funny considering we only had two team medals in European Championships until today and last one was 10 years ago Unfortunately we failed to qualify for the Olympics which was the main goal. Both teams had enough level to make it, but as usual in Spanish fencing they underperformed when it mattered the most. I'm still asking myself how did qualify in the women's sabre and didn't? the men's epee it's a different beast...there are so many teams more or less on the same level and it's really, really difficult to get into the top 4 (5) of the ranking I wouldn't say they underperformed...they just missed out on a very complicated task Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobi 981 Posted June 23, 2024 #62 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 hour ago, phelps said: I'm still asking myself how did qualify in the women's sabre and didn't? the men's epee it's a different beast...there are so many teams more or less on the same level and it's really, really difficult to get into the top 4 (5) of the ranking I wouldn't say they underperformed...they just missed out on a very complicated task is probably better than in sabre, but Italian girls are stronger under pressure. We medaled in the 1st event of the OQR and after that we lost 44-45 against at Euros and 44-45 against at Worlds. This season we were paired four times in a row with in T8, so no option of making it to the final. The only time when we didn't face in T8 was the last event of the season, with the OQR already finished, and I think we took silver, but it was too late. In epee there were 4 teams with similar level fighting for the European spot []. We made it to SFs in the first OQR World Cup, but after that we lost 32-37 against at Euros (expected, but we had our chances during the match) and 43-44 against at Worlds. Fortunately the other European teams didn't have great performances and we still had a chance, but during the summer our top guy Yulen Pereira broke his wrist and even after he came back, his level was not as good as it used to be. phelps 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 291 Posted June 23, 2024 #63 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 hour ago, phelps said: I'm still asking myself how did qualify in the women's sabre and didn't? the men's epee it's a different beast...there are so many teams more or less on the same level and it's really, really difficult to get into the top 4 (5) of the ranking I wouldn't say they underperformed...they just missed out on a very complicated task Today Italians lost in saber against Romania in 1/4, which hurts even more because France was also eliminated. And this will be important in Paris, because we will drop in the ranking behind Egypt and we will fight in 1/4 with Hungary, not France. I really don't like the approach of some of our teams to team competitions. However, these are continental competitions with ranking points and such an attitude should not take place. The form is there, which was visible individually but we are losing to Romania again. If we were to make a ranking today, we would also fall behind Germany... There would be better chances with France in Paris than with Hungary and Szilyagi. We are digging our own grave. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,741 Posted June 23, 2024 #64 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 hour ago, copravolley said: Today Italians lost in saber against Romania in 1/4, which hurts even more because France was also eliminated. And this will be important in Paris, because we will drop in the ranking behind Egypt and we will fight in 1/4 with Hungary, not France. I really don't like the approach of some of our teams to team competitions. However, these are continental competitions with ranking points and such an attitude should not take place. The form is there, which was visible individually but we are losing to Romania again. If we were to make a ranking today, we would also fall behind Germany... There would be better chances with France in Paris than with Hungary and Szilyagi. We are digging our own grave. against it was Samele's fault...he had 2 awful assaults putting the rest of the team under heavy pressure and Gallo did show that he's not the man who can save our ass when entering a match late...he must be a starter Torre, instead, did quite well vs , but the problem is that our guys just disappear when they see the name Covaliu, as if his father was still on the piste p.s. Szilagyi is no longer the man he used to be...age is showing him a big prize...we shouldn't be so worried to face rather than on home soil and extra motivation...the only team we can't really cope with is because of their style Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,741 Posted June 23, 2024 #65 Share Posted June 23, 2024 however, the afternoon session is set men's Sabre, for Gold: vs ; for Bronze: vs women's Foil, for Gold: vs ; for Bronze: vs Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,741 Posted June 23, 2024 #66 Share Posted June 23, 2024 women's Team Foil Gold: Italy Silver: Poland Bronze: Hungary Semifinals Poland b. France 41-40 Italy b. Hungary 45-17 Bronze Medal Match Hungary b. France 45-43 Gold Medal Match Italy b. Poland 45-27 Full Ranking & Results https://www.fencingworldwide.com/en/4578-2023/results/ rybak and Ted 1 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,741 Posted June 23, 2024 #67 Share Posted June 23, 2024 men's Team Sabre Gold: Hungary Silver: Romania Bronze: Turkiye Semifinals Hungary b. Germany 45-32 Romania b. Turkiye 45-44 Bronze Medal Match Turkiye b. Germany 45-42 Gold Medal Match Hungary b. Romania 45-40 Full Ranking & Results https://www.fencingworldwide.com/en/4582-2023/results/ Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,741 Posted June 23, 2024 #68 Share Posted June 23, 2024 Final Medal Table 5 / 3 / 3 4 / 1 / 3 1 / 4 / 2 1 / 0 / 3 1 / 0 / 0 0 / 2 / 0 0 / 1 / 2 0 / 1 / 0 0 / 0 / 2 0 / 0 / 1 0 / 0 / 1 0 / 0 / 1 copravolley and Ted 1 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27568-fencing-efc-european-championships-2024/page/7/#findComment-639599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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