RobtheAggie 340 Posted January 29, 2019 #71 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I agree that Dougherty and his generation are still a few years away from making a real impact on the World Cup. With the retirement of Lowell Bailey and Tim Burke, Dougherty has been thrust to the head of the US team. This is what makes youth/junior Worlds so much fun. As much as I would love to see Ukaleq Astri Slettemark make a major impact on the Womens biathlon world, it will still be about 5 years before we can see what she will really become. It does make for a great story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,127 Posted January 29, 2019 #72 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Especially with the fact that not every single winner is destined for crystal globes, but when you see someone special, you just know. For example, Laura Dahlmeier's relay performance demonstrated that she is a winner and that she will be big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,127 Posted January 29, 2019 #73 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) So, since we sparked the discussion, I thought I would look this up for funsies: How many junior category medalists we actually lost in Biathlon since 2009/10 season 2010 Yann Guigonnet (France) - individual gold (quit in 2015) Michael Galassi (Italy) - individual silver (quit in 2013) Tom Barth (Germany) - individual bronze, sprint bronze (quit in 2013) Reka Forika (Romania) - individual gold (quit in 2016) Leslie Mercier (France) - individual bronze) (quit in 2011) Evgeny Petrov (Russia) - sprint gold, pursuit bronze (quit in 2011) Manuel Muller (Germany) - sprint silver, pursuit gold (quit in 2011) Sophie Boilley (France) - sprint silver, pursuit gold (quit in 2015) Vladimir Alenishko (Russia) - pursuit silver (quit in 2014) Nastassia Kalina (Russia) - pursuit silver (quit in 2015) 2011 Aleksandra Alikina (Russia) - sprint silver, pursuit silver (quit in 2013) Tom Barth (Germany) - sprint gold, pursuit bronze (quit in 2013) Ludwig Ehrhart (France) - sprint bronze, pursuit silver (quit in 2012) Nikolay Yakushov (Russia) - individual bronze (quit in 2012) Florie Vigneron (France) - individual bronze (quit in 2011) 2012 Elena Badanina (Russia) - individual bronze (quit in 2013) Kurtis Wenzel (Canada) - individual gold (quit in 2013) Marius Hol (Norway) - individual silver (quit in 2012) Elena Ankudinova (Russia) - sprint gold (quit in 2015) 2013 Dino Butkovic (Croatia) - individual silver (quit in 2014) 2014 Jarle Gjoerven (Norway) - pursuit silver (quit in 2014) Dany Chavoutier (France) - individual bronze (quit in 2014) 2015 Aleksandr Dediukhin (Russia) - individual silver, sprint gold (quit in 2015) Vemund Gurigard (Norway) - individual bronze, sprint silver (quit in 2015) Lena Arnaud (France) - sprint gold (quit in 2018) 2016 Susanna Kurzthaler (Austria) - individual gold (quit in 2016) Andrea Baretto (Italy) - individual silver (quit in 2017) 2017 Nikita Lobastov (Russia) - individual bronze (quit in 2018) Kirill Streltsov (Russia) - sprint silver (quit in 2018) 2018 Sturla Laegreid (Norway) - individual silver (quit in 2018) Sverre Aspenes (Norway) - sprint bronze, pursuit gold (quit in 2018) A lot of these cases, the juniors dropped the sport mostly after the junior championships, some of them trying a couple of IBU races. A lot of Russians and Norwegians, I think some might have quit since it's very hard making the team and most of others left the sport, because it was their hobby and they did not want that as a career after university. Lastly, a lot of them are medalists from the individual race. Sidenote: Tom Barth looked like he had a lot of potential. Edited January 29, 2019 by Werloc Gianlu33, Wumo, RobtheAggie and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobtheAggie 340 Posted January 30, 2019 #74 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Junior Mens 4x7.5 up soon then women's 3x6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobtheAggie 340 Posted January 30, 2019 #75 Share Posted January 30, 2019 23 hours ago, RobtheAggie said: Finish Germany Slovenia Italy One quick story posted here about the race. The Slovenian skier, Alex Cisar, actually lost his pole on the last lap, managed to catch back up and pulled ahead in the last 50 m to get the Silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobtheAggie 340 Posted January 30, 2019 #76 Share Posted January 30, 2019 After Shoot #1 for the 4x7.5 Kazakhstan - Roman Yermin is skiing for them on this leg Switzerland Finland Slovenia Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobtheAggie 340 Posted January 30, 2019 #77 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Shoot #2 Kazakhstan 0+0 Finland 0+2 Germany 0+0 Russia 0+1 Belarus 0+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,577 Posted January 30, 2019 #78 Share Posted January 30, 2019 What amazing shooting for Cappellari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,577 Posted January 30, 2019 #79 Share Posted January 30, 2019 It's "only" bronze but it was a great performance for our guys! Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,600 Posted January 30, 2019 #80 Share Posted January 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Werloc said: So, since we sparked the discussion, I thought I would look this up for funsies: How many junior category medalists we actually lost in Biathlon since 2009/10 season 2010 Yann Guigonnet (France) - individual gold (quit in 2015) Michael Galassi (Italy) - individual silver (quit in 2013) Tom Barth (Germany) - individual bronze, sprint bronze (quit in 2013) Reka Forika (Romania) - individual gold (quit in 2016) Leslie Mercier (France) - individual bronze) (quit in 2011) Evgeny Petrov (Russia) - sprint gold, pursuit bronze (quit in 2011) Manuel Muller (Germany) - sprint silver, pursuit gold (quit in 2011) Sophie Boilley (France) - sprint silver, pursuit gold (quit in 2015) Vladimir Alenishko (Russia) - pursuit silver (quit in 2014) Nastassia Kalina (Russia) - pursuit silver (quit in 2015) 2011 Aleksandra Alikina (Russia) - sprint silver, pursuit silver (quit in 2013) Tom Barth (Germany) - sprint gold, pursuit bronze (quit in 2013) Ludwig Ehrhart (France) - sprint bronze, pursuit silver (quit in 2012) Nikolay Yakushov (Russia) - individual bronze (quit in 2012) Florie Vigneron (France) - individual bronze (quit in 2011) 2012 Elena Badanina (Russia) - individual bronze (quit in 2013) Kurtis Wenzel (Canada) - individual gold (quit in 2013) Marius Hol (Norway) - individual silver (quit in 2012) Elena Ankudinova (Russia) - sprint gold (quit in 2015) 2013 Dino Butkovic (Croatia) - individual silver (quit in 2014) 2014 Jarle Gjoerven (Norway) - pursuit silver (quit in 2014) Dany Chavoutier (France) - individual bronze (quit in 2014) 2015 Aleksandr Dediukhin (Russia) - individual silver, sprint gold (quit in 2015) Vemund Gurigard (Norway) - individual bronze, sprint silver (quit in 2015) Lena Arnaud (France) - sprint gold (quit in 2018) 2016 Susanna Kurzthaler (Austria) - individual gold (quit in 2016) Andrea Baretto (Italy) - individual silver (quit in 2017) 2017 Nikita Lobastov (Russia) - individual bronze (quit in 2018) Kirill Streltsov (Russia) - sprint silver (quit in 2018) 2018 Sturla Laegreid (Norway) - individual silver (quit in 2018) Sverre Aspenes (Norway) - sprint bronze, pursuit gold (quit in 2018) A lot of these cases, the juniors dropped the sport mostly after the junior championships, some of them trying a couple of IBU races. A lot of Russians and Norwegians, I think some might have quit since it's very hard making the team and most of others left the sport, because it was their hobby and they did not want that as a career after university. Lastly, a lot of them are medalists from the individual race. Sidenote: Tom Barth looked like he had a lot of potential. Yes, these juniors from top biathlon nations like Germany, Norway or Russia are like destined to be left on the sidelines due to the strenght of the World Cup team. However those Russians for instance could think about changing nationality to Belarus or sth like that? I'm sure Germans or French could represent Belgium or Luxembourg for what it's worth? Of course there are some extreme cases like South Korea too (Frolina, Laphsin). Poland & Czech Republic or Slovakia are quite different for that matter, any successful junior faces very little competition in the seniors and has a clear shot at World Cup full-schedule. Davidova is making the most of that already but Zuk simply isn't (and that in a season where Guzik & Gwizdon are out of the WC squad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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