Russia-Ukraine Crisis Consequences in Sports

[bestmen 2,906]

So what is your proposal of solution ? Kill all Russians like Zelensky said? 

[Illya 587]

1 minute ago, bestmen said:

So what is your proposal of solution ? Kill all Russians like Zelensky said? 

At first ban you from here, it would be more helpful since nobody will waste their time on your fool thoughts

[copravolley 518]

10 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

I know that but Russia is more than Moscow and St. Petersburg. The Asian part is light years behind even former communist bloc like Poland or Czechia - enlisting in the army is really a way to get some money, in the wealthy democracies that wasn't the case since at least 1918 

Some times ago there was only sport and now there is sport and army, although many of them die in war because Putin doesn`t respect the lives of his own people. 

Edited 2 hours ago by copravolley

[bestmen 2,906]

Trump respects the lifes of his people 

[bestmen 2,906]

You dont stop talking about poverty , i guess you compare the salary 

 

cost of life is not the same everywhere , if you pay your pizza 10€ , it's 3 in Russia 

[bestmen 2,906]

All fast food in Russia called : Mcdonalds, starbucks , KFC ...etc are closed forever , no more money for Satanyahu lobby 

[Monzanator 4,785]

8 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Some times ago there was only sport and now there is sport and army, although many of them die in war because Putin doesn`t respect the lives of his own people. 

Russia and Soviet Union follow that tactics for many decades, Stalin became a huge WWII winner because of that. NATO can't really afford a war of attrition or any open war against above par army right now. And Putin knows that. At least the nonsense about nuclear bombs is over. That threat was never going to materialise since Ukraine isn't that important to be casus belli for WWIII.

[copravolley 518]

6 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Russia and Soviet Union follow that tactics for many decades, Stalin became a huge WWII winner because of that. NATO can't really afford a war of attrition or any open war against above par army right now. And Putin knows that. At least the nonsense about nuclear bombs is over. That threat was never going to materialise since Ukraine isn't that important to be casus belli for WWIII.

Despite everything, Stalin gave up: Finland, Greece, Austria, Yugoslavia (there were no USSR troops there). I don't think Putin would have given up on these countries, because even Stalin was more rational than he is. The Communist Party even limited Stalin, Brezhnev etc., who had to take its opinion into account, and Putin is like some old tsar who does 100% of what he wants and the all of the country just applauds him.

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[Monzanator 4,785]

21 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Despite everything, Stalin gave up: Finland, Greece, Austria, Yugoslavia (there were no USSR troops there). I don't think Putin would have given up on these countries, because even Stalin was more rational than he is. The Communist Party even limited Stalin, Brezhnev etc., who had to take its opinion into account, and Putin is like some old tsar who does 100% of what he wants and the all of the country just applauds him.

Stalin got Karelian Peninsula and Viborg and that was enough. Land invasion from Finland made no sense 60 yrs ago and makes even less sense in 2020s.

 

Finland isn't that important strategically even when it comes to Baltic Sea. U need to control Danish straits to control the Baltic. Warsaw Pact had an invasion plan of Denmark for this one reason. 

 

Likewise Mediterranean Sea was no priority for Stalin. SU wasn't a naval power back in the day.

[copravolley 518]

9 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Stalin got Karelian Peninsula and Viborg and that was enough. Land invasion from Finland made no sense 60 yrs ago and makes even less sense in 2020s.

 

Finland isn't that important strategically even when it comes to Baltic Sea. U need to control Danish straits to control the Baltic. Warsaw Pact had an invasion plan of Denmark for this one reason. 

 

Likewise Mediterranean Sea was no priority for Stalin. SU wasn't a naval power back in the day.

Yes, and Ukraine is very important to Putin- far more important than the Baltic states, Georgia or even Poland. Without Ukraine, the restoration of the former USSR will be impossible for Putin. Another thing is that with pro-Russian Ukraine, Poland will have its entire eastern and northern border (Kaliningrad) with unfriendly countries except Lithuania, so it will basically have to militaries the all entire eastern part of Poland and build various fortifications there.

Edited 1 hour ago by copravolley