juddy96 171 Posted May 22, 2016 #221 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Men's Pole Vault Logan Cunningham - 5.71m Men's Shot Put Darrell Hill - 20.94m Men's Javelin Throw Cyrus Hostetler - 83.83m Women's 100m Schillonie Calvert - 11.19 Gloria Asumnu - 11.24 Women's 400m Hurdles Georganne Moline - 53.97 Dalilah Muhammad - 54.64 Sage Watson - 54.82 Women's Discus Throw Yanbo Yang - 61.37m Women's Hammer Throw Gwen Berry - 76.31m AR Women's Shot Put Jillian Camarena-Williams - 18.99m Brittany Crew - 17.84m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted May 22, 2016 #222 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sage Watson improved her PB by more than 1s already this year, sadly i cant say that i am surprised ... Olympic years are really horrible in this aspect, too many athletes think they can get away with anything, hopefully this wont be the case. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddy96 171 Posted May 22, 2016 #223 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: Sage Watson improved her PB by more than 1s already this year, sadly i cant say that i am surprised ... Olympic years are really horrible in this aspect, too many athletes think they can get away with anything, hopefully this wont be the case. 2011 - 59.00 2012 - 58.04 2013 - 56.81 2015 - 55.97 2016 - 54.82 And she's still only 21. This jump didn't come out of nowhere, it's been gradual. Edited May 22, 2016 by juddy96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted May 22, 2016 #224 Share Posted May 22, 2016 vor 1 Minute schrieb juddy96: 2011 - 59.00 2012 - 58.04 2013 - 56.81 2015 - 55.97 2016 - 54.82 And she's still only 21. This jump didn't come out of nowhere, it's been gradual. Thanks, its funny that you think that i dont know about her progression. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddy96 171 Posted May 22, 2016 #225 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 minute ago, OlympicsFan said: Thanks, its funny that you think that i dont know about her progression. Then why would you accuse her of doping if you knew that these jumps have been normal for her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk12points 434 Posted May 22, 2016 #226 Share Posted May 22, 2016 British 10000m Olympic Trials 2016: Men's: Mo Farah (preselected & did not compete) Ross Millington - finished in top 2 but has not yet run the qualification time (Needs to run under 28 minutes Before 11 July) Dewi Griffiths - finished in top 2 but has not yet run the qualification time (Needs to run under 28 minutes Before 11 July) (Andy Vernon has reached the qualifying time, but failed to finish in the top 2) Women's: Jessica Andrews - finished in top 2 and has Olympic qualification time Beth Potter - finished in top 2 and has Olympic qualification time 3rd spot up for grabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted May 22, 2016 #227 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) vor einer Stunde schrieb juddy96: Then why would you accuse her of doping if you knew that these jumps have been normal for her I really dont want to discuss this with you, we will never agree. I wouldnt call those jumps normal. 1) Its her biggest improvement since 2013 and much bigger than her improvement from 2014 to 2015 2) Its still very early in the season, so its very likely that she will further improve this year 3) Most importantly: There is a huge difference between improving from 58.04 to 56.81 (2012 to 2013) and improving from 55.97 to 54.82 (2015 to 2016). Normally the jumps get smaller when you get older, but with her it seems to be the other way round. 4) What happened to her in 2014? 5) She turns 22 in less than a month, thats not really young for a female athlete. A one second jump wouldve been normal for a 18 or 19 yo girl maybe but not for a girl turning 22 this year. Last year she was 45th in world ranking, with her time of 54.82 she wouldve been 17th last year (less than 0.5s outside the top 10), which is also a "remarkable" improvement. You probably know what i generally think about canadian athletics/swimming and i know that you will never agree with me on this topic, so we really dont need to fight this out again and again. I wont be surprised by any canadian athlete showing huge improvements this year (i was absolutely not surprised to see such huge improvements by Oleksiak, Acevedo or Masse), so this was probably the last time that i wrote something concerning this topic. As a canadian fan you will be very happy with the results in Rio, you will win at least 10-12 medals in athletics/swimming and at least one gold medal. Edited May 22, 2016 by OlympicsFan Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddy96 171 Posted May 22, 2016 #228 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: I really dont want to discuss this with you, we will never agree. I wouldnt call those jumps normal. 1) Its her biggest improvement since 2013 and much bigger than her improvement from 2014 to 2015 2) Its still very early in the season, so its very likely that she will further improve this year 3) Most importantly: There is a huge difference between improving from 58.04 to 56.81 (2012 to 2013) and improving from 55.97 to 54.82 (2015 to 2016). Normally the jumps get smaller when you get older, but with her it seems to be the other way round. 4) What happened to her in 2014? 5) She turns 22 in less than a month, thats not really young for a female athlete. A one second jump wouldve been normal for a 18 or 19 yo girl maybe but not for a girl turning 22 this year. Last year she was 45th in world ranking, with her time of 54.82 she wouldve been 17th last year (less than 0.5s outside the top 10), which is also a "remarkable" improvement. You probabaly what i generally think about canadian athletics and swimming and i know that you will never agree with me on this topic, so we really dont need to fight this out again and again. I wont be surprised by any canadian athlete showing huge improvements this year (i was absolutely not surprised to see such huge improvements by Oleksiak, Acevedo or Masse), so this was probably the last time that i wrote something concerning this topic. As a canadian fan you will be very happy with the results in Rio, you will win at least 10-12 medals in athletics/swimming and at least one gold medal. She was out for almost all of 2014 with a foot injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,135 Posted May 22, 2016 #229 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 hours ago, juddy96 said: 2011 - 59.00 2012 - 58.04 2013 - 56.81 2015 - 55.97 2016 - 54.82 And she's still only 21. This jump didn't come out of nowhere, it's been gradual. Apart from her apparently really focussing more on 400mH than anything else this season much more than previous seasons. A whole lot of her 400mH results in the other seasons came on the same day as a 400m, meaning she was never really focussing on just one event. There's not a whole lot of fishy going on here I'm guessing. OlympicsFan 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted May 22, 2016 #230 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) vor 6 Minuten schrieb heywoodu: Apart from her apparently really focussing more on 400mH than anything else this season much more than previous seasons. A whole lot of her 400mH results in the other seasons came on the same day as a 400m, meaning she was never really focussing on just one event. There's not a whole lot of fishy going on here I'm guessing. Good joke, i really love your sense of humour! This is the perfect end to this "discussion". Edited May 22, 2016 by OlympicsFan heywoodu 1 Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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