Cinnamon Bun 905 Posted June 27, 2024 #1141 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/26/2024 at 10:20 PM, Sub13 said: Yea that’s right, you can. If a swimmer has an A cut they are allowed to enter one other event with a B cut if their nation doesn’t already have an entry Expand That's not the case. In point 2 of the OCT section of this document https://www.worldaquatics.com/competitions/paris-2024-swimming-info it states that any athlete who has achieved an OCT but also an OQT in another event will have their place reallocated to the next fastest OCT in that athletes OCT event. The only exception I believe to the OQT and OCT rules is that an athlete who has achieved an OCT time can enter an event that their NOC already has 1 or 2 OQT for if said NOC rejects all OQT places achieved. E.g. Joe Litchfield will be able to compete in the Men's 100m Fly in Paris despite not having the OQT because will reject Peters and Gammon's OQT quotas before the OCT and universality quotas are awarded. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,567 Posted June 27, 2024 #1142 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/27/2024 at 12:06 AM, Cinnamon Bun said: That's not the case. In point 2 of the OCT section of this document https://www.worldaquatics.com/competitions/paris-2024-swimming-info it states that any athlete who has achieved an OCT but also an OQT in another event will have their place reallocated to the next fastest OCT in that athletes OCT event. Expand That's written because you can't count the same athlete twice. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bun 905 Posted June 27, 2024 #1143 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/27/2024 at 1:06 AM, JoshMartini007 said: That's written because you can't count the same athlete twice. Expand Oh right, so they can still be entered then? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 590 Posted June 27, 2024 #1144 Share Posted June 27, 2024 Any idea when the OCT will be decided? Will it be possible to see the list somewhere? Or updates day by day? Thanks Josh and dullard 2 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bun 905 Posted June 27, 2024 #1145 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/27/2024 at 1:11 AM, Jan Linha said: Any idea when the OCT will be decided? Will it be possible to see the list somewhere? Or updates day by day? Thanks Expand I'm currently in the process of creating a list which estimates how many OCT quotas will be available and which athletes are eligible for them. Josh, dullard, Jan Linha and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 590 Posted June 27, 2024 #1146 Share Posted June 27, 2024 I have a question about Barbora Janíčková. She did not meet OCT but she won a silver medal at ECH few days ago in 100m freestyle in her PB 54,17s. Is there any possibility that she would get an invitation?? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 11,107 Posted June 27, 2024 #1147 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/27/2024 at 3:06 AM, Jan Linha said: I have a question about Barbora Janíčková. She did not meet OCT but she won a silver medal at ECH few days ago in 100m freestyle in her PB 54,17s. Is there any possibility that she would get an invitation?? Expand Quite unlikely, there’s probably quite a few names that would be above her with that time. Jan Linha 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 590 Posted June 27, 2024 #1148 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/27/2024 at 3:12 AM, Josh said: Quite unlikely, there’s probably quite a few names that would be above her with that time. Expand So I suppose no possibility to get an invitation based on the ECH result or any other big event medal achievement, only the time, right? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 11,107 Posted June 27, 2024 #1149 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/27/2024 at 3:17 AM, Jan Linha said: So I suppose no possibility to get an invitation based on the ECH result or any other big event medal achievement, only the time, right? Expand Unfortunately, only through your time. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub13 24 Posted June 27, 2024 #1150 Share Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/27/2024 at 12:06 AM, Cinnamon Bun said: That's not the case. In point 2 of the OCT section of this document https://www.worldaquatics.com/competitions/paris-2024-swimming-info it states that any athlete who has achieved an OCT but also an OQT in another event will have their place reallocated to the next fastest OCT in that athletes OCT event. The only exception I believe to the OQT and OCT rules is that an athlete who has achieved an OCT time can enter an event that their NOC already has 1 or 2 OQT for if said NOC rejects all OQT places achieved. E.g. Joe Litchfield will be able to compete in the Men's 100m Fly in Paris despite not having the OQT because will reject Peters and Gammon's OQT quotas before the OCT and universality quotas are awarded. Expand I feel like this was kind of already answered by someone else but that’s not right. Point 2 says their PLACE will be reallocated (they don’t need a place because are already entered with their OQT), but then point 10 applies which allows them to enter 1 event with an OCT. Your interpretation doesn’t make sense because that would mean point 10 can’t possibly ever apply to anyone. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/115/#findComment-640692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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