3x3 Basketball 2021 Discussion Thread

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[heywoodu 15,335]

Situation about the Belgian men's team:

https://www.hln.be/sport/grootschalige-fraude-3x3-lions-organiseerden-fictieve-wedstrijden-om-op-olympische-spelen-te-geraken-boic-wacht-af~a808e67d

 

Basically it says there's been a major fraud, in which Belgium entered 27 tournaments in the FIBA systems where their players gained enough points to get into the OQT and eventually qualify for Tokyo. Mongolia-style, basically, but as far as I know the tournaments in Mongolia were at least actually played, whereas here it says the Belgian tournaments were entirely made up and not a ball was actually touched...

[De_Gambassi 1,225]

  On 8/25/2021 at 8:46 AM, heywoodu said:

Situation about the Belgian men's team:

https://www.hln.be/sport/grootschalige-fraude-3x3-lions-organiseerden-fictieve-wedstrijden-om-op-olympische-spelen-te-geraken-boic-wacht-af~a808e67d

 

Basically it says there's been a major fraud, in which Belgium entered 27 tournaments in the FIBA systems where their players gained enough points to get into the OQT and eventually qualify for Tokyo. Mongolia-style, basically, but as far as I know the tournaments in Mongolia were at least actually played, whereas here it says the Belgian tournaments were entirely made up and not a ball was actually touched...

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Would you bet your house on it 

[Dunadan 1,103]

 

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“Whatever the story may be, and I would like to emphasize again that we have no knowledge of possible fraud at the moment, the basketball players have reached fourth place,” says Van Baelen."So they had their place on sporting grounds, as the results show." 

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Nice reasoning.

[Dunadan 1,103]

  On 8/25/2021 at 8:54 AM, De_Gambassi said:

Would you bet your house on it 

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There were hours long daily livestreams from Mongolian school gyms.

[heywoodu 15,335]

  On 8/25/2021 at 8:54 AM, De_Gambassi said:

Would you bet your house on it 

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Like @Dunadan said, they were actually even shown (and posted here I believe), tons of Facebook live streams. It was obscure and it was playing with the rules, but it was definitely not breaking the rules.

[heywoodu 15,335]

  On 8/25/2021 at 9:24 AM, Dunadan said:

and I would like to emphasize again that we have no knowledge of possible fraud at the moment

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Yes, keep emphasizing it again and again, because that makes it more believeable  

[dcro 10,210]

I guess FIBA was only checking the "validity" of teams who qualified via rankings.

[Dunadan 1,103]

Yeah I remember the top 10 teams lost points after some verification now and then. The Belgians got away with it by only targeting a place in the QT.

 

On the good side, FIBA now will be forced to change the qualification system.

[heywoodu 15,335]

Same story emerging about Romania, which is accused of hosting 150 non-existing tournaments. It's in Belgian media though, so, you know, pinch of salt