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Interesting stats More interesting than quota from a medal perspective is medal opportunities ....... for example the hockey squad may have 16 quotas but will have only 1 medal opportunity but gagan is only 1 quota but he has 3 medal opportunities and medal opportunity does not also correspond to events as we may have both ayonika and apurvi in 10m air rifle which is one event but two medal oppurtunities As per my count so in Rio while we have 120 -121 quotas we have 91-92 medal opportunities and participation in 66 events in london we had 83 quotas and 69 medal opportunities in 55 events

great show by france +63 quotas is impressive what happened this time around

Road to rio on the other hand is showing manish rawat being selected for the 20km and hence not selected for the 50km walk which would bring us back to 120 ? they are showing manish , gurmeet and krishnan for the 20km and only sandeep for the 50 km .............????. i think the 4*400 squads are finalised !!!............it depends now the race walker squad ............ On a personal front i prefer manish , gurmeet and krishnan for the 20km squad as given in race for rio as all three have been classy recently ( i am not sure why devender is being ignored his time of 1:20:21 is the best amongst the three , krishnan is just 1:21:41 - though his performance was the best in the last walk Rome 2016 ) and the 20km squad can do something special while the 50km has no chance at all

I think we are closing our quota at 121 ......I am going by the final list given in wikipedia ( tradionally inaccurate bu this list seems logical and as per the rules ) does not include tintu in the 4*400 squad ( they anyway can use her as required ) and the 50km squad would have manish and sandeep while the 20 km squad would have irfan , baljinder and gurmeet which seems to be logical ( except that devender in recent times has done well while irfan has really not been in form ) .............. can somebody confirm this 121 and the 20 km and 50 km race walker team ?- other than wikipedia

wow 274 million pounds ................thats a huge budget for the olympics ............I can understand they are not funding golf or tennis ....what about Rugby thta is a team sport and possibly needs a lot of investments.....................Interesting but shooting seems to be the lowest cost per medal ratio with just about 1.7 million pounds per medal .......................and judo incredibly expensive at 14 million per medasl

well I remember seeing the entire commonwealth games on bbc directly using hola unblocker .............................. also I saw the live feed of DD sports of the federation meet live on a site so think that there may be possible sites .....................

My Initial information was correct - AFI in an attempt to increase participation did send a list which did not include nirmala sheoran , anas and tintu but IAAF had put a rider only in dec that your 4*400 relay squad must include your 400 distance runners necessarily........ so now they have dropped the idea and added anas and nirmala ............................... The full story is given below http://www.thehindu.com/sport/other-sports/rio-olympics-2016-indian-olympics-athletics-team-to-be-reduced-to-36/article8850343.ece ... I am not clear about tintu status because they do not need to include tintu ( the rule applies only to events corresponding to the relay ) ...if Tintu is not included should we not have 1 extra quota ....... That of course depends on the nominations in the 20 km walk and 50 km walk I think ........................... are we at 121 or 120 ? Incidentally to dolby who when I put the posting immediately said that nirmala and anas ahve to be included but tintu can be excluded ...................... I hereby vote to send @Dolby to train all the federations on the Rio rules , they seem to be know so little

@Dolby @Sanjib This is the site which I think is run by rohan and is normally quite reliable https://www.facebook.com/indrio16/ @rohan sharma could you share where the source of the posting was

I just saw the release of the names for athletics released by the AFI It shows 6 names not including nirmala and Anas or tintu for each of the relays ......................so our number may go up by 2 , but manish rawat has been selected for the 20 km walk but not the 50 km walk so we may have a reduction of 1 person in the walks and an increase of 3 in the relays ...so we may end up with 122 and not 120 ..........

Unfortunately in Hyderabad .....would have loved to be there

Looking at the awesome 120 achieved by India ...I have been so ithrilled......but yeh dil mange more ..... I then did a best case analysis in my mind looking at who missed closely and if all the close ones had come thru what could have been the number ( Very best case scenario ) Atheletics ................... we could have had 17 more atheletes best case ( they missed by a very small amount ) ....possibly given some more support and possibly more training time we could have had ...2 more javelin throwers in men( neeraj and rajinder) , 1 more in women javelin( annu ), 110mh (sidhanth) , Womens discus(krishna) , 400mh for men( jithin ) , 4*100 women ( 3 more ) , 5000m mens( lakshman ) , shotput men (Tejinder and Om) , 50km walk ( Basanth ) , womens long (Neena dn prajusha) , womens triple (Mayookha) , mens 100 ( malick) Shooting - These shooters missed by whisker - 8 more at the asian qualifer as well as at some of world cups - Om Prakash , Vijay kumar , ankur and asab, manavjit ( n which case sanjeev would have gone ) , elizabeth koshy , shagun and akhil sheoran, angad bajwa Boxing - 4 more - ..........Laishram , neeraj and sumit sangwan - all lost very narrowly and mary kom lost narrowly the asian qualifier Archery - twice the mens team lost by shoot off - we could have had 2 more Badminton - Kashyap was unlucky due to injury or we would have most likely one more mens player - 1 more weight lifting - with the current womens team doing the rounds twice ( we had a very weak 2014 ) had we done a little better we could have a team of 3 womens weightlifters - 2 more Gymnastics - Patra would have scored just a f point more he would have made the rio test event and possibly we could have a second gymnast at rio ( he was first reserve ) - 1more Wrestling - staywart kadian in the 86 free in asian qualifer was one bout away , so was anita sheoran in 63 women and ravinder khatri in the 66 greco - 3 more .......... so that would have been 38 more atheletes for rio .......I am sure I am missing 1-2 more ? ........ and wow what a strong side we would have had ....I feel if we have had stronger support ( we had good support towards the end ) for a longer time .............. Our numbers could have easily touched 160 .............. Unbelievable but true ..................by the way that would bring us close to being a top 15 nation in terms of quota seats .......just a little more support / better NOCs / aligned private support and we would have been there

awesome achievement and some of them were broken twice - Like 110 mh, 200men, 3000sc women which was a further indication of the strech put in by indian athletes.... I expect a few more to be broken at rio !!!!! ...to make 2016 a year to remember

Performances which stood out this season for me ( in comparison to 2012 olympics ) .................. If our atheletes did their PB which they have achieved in the last one year where would they be placed in the 2012 olympics ranking Ankit had done 8.19 in the long ................... He would have got a SILVER medal Renjith had done 17.30 in the triple .............He would have stood 5th Indrajeet had done 20.7 in the shot ............ He would have stood 8th Vikas had done 65.75 in the discus .............He would have stood 7th 4*400men had done 3.00.91 ...................... They would have stood 6th 4*400women had done 3.27.88...................They would have stood 8th sudha had done 9.26.00 in the 3000m......she would have finished 10th, and lalitha 9.27.00 would be 11th devender with 1:20;21 in the 20 km walk would have been 10th and gurwinder with 1:20:29 would have also been 10th so we would have had 10 people in the top 10 or so ..................... Duttee 11.22 would have got into the semis in the 100m women and also dharambir with 20.45 would have been enough to reach the semis in the 200m and also 23.07 to have got srabani in the 200m semis for women, tintu with 1:59.19 would be int he semis as well ........................also 4 people in the semis so these are world class scores if the Indian athletes further improve on them and peak at the right time ......any thing can happen ...,,,

I am really celebrating a renaissance in Indian Athletics, This year we have really broken four myths which plagues Indian athletics 1. Very few world class athletes and the rest were no-hopers - There was a very small group of elite athletes ...for example in 2012 - there were Krishna Poonia , Vikas gowda , seema , renjith and one or two others ...................... Now there is a huge group of atheletes - it is not just the 36 who made it , there were another at least 15 more who missed narrowly - Neena , Prajusha, Sidhanth, 2-3 javelin throwers, krishna, Jithin , 4*100 women , prem , durgesh , lakshmanan, the rest of the 400 meters athletes for the 400m 2. We are good at just a few events - Middle distance and throws, jumps and the womens 4*400 - This year we have shown we are good at sprints , some of the mens relays , long distance , walks and so on ............. in every event we have had olympic qualifiers or close to olympic qualification , the only events we did not have good players - was the combinations( deca and hepta ) and the pole vaults 3. Atheletes who train abroad do well - Nirmala , Dhrambir , Jinson , Manpreet really have shown otherwise that you can train in India and still do well 4. No world class performances - we have world class performances in 3000w Steeple , Discus men and women , mens 4*400, womens 4*400 , ankit in the long , renjith in the triple, indrajeet in the mens shot, manpreet in the womens shot, the mens 20km walk all are world class ........... so really we have many world class performances this time around ................. can a medal be too far away ................

Has the number of universality positions increased ? ...... or is 900 quota limit lower than it was ? ............. I think the number of B seats left were only 30 .....which means that the majority of positions went to the big A level nations and then universality positions majority of whom would be not meeting the B standard

Really impressive Hungarian squad

Not impossible ............but needs the 4*100 squad to do well ..they have the potential easily ..............which will give 3 more , to reach 200 we will need 2 individual qualification Neena was close today ( unfortunately has no chance tomorrow as per the schedule ) , we have jinson in 800, jithin in the 400mh, triple jumpers , Javelin throwers , ( it is a pity sidhanth has no chance tomorrow ) , the 400 m women and 400m men is there tomorrow but because of the 4*400 qualifications it may not add quota places .................... so very difficult but not impossible but Vivek 120 is only a number................ the quality of players is very important .....the 4*400 m run was awesome and could take them to a final in the atheletics ...................which was well beyond my expectations .....................let us hope for something similar from the 4*100 women - they have the potential to do very well and so has neeraj chopra - I am hoping for something outstanding from them

Awesome run by the mens 4*400 team .....................straight to Rio !!!................ and a great national record to Boot beating the old record by 2 whole seconds

I really feel South Asia is the black hole of olympic sports .......look at the statistics they are shocking Pakistan - 200 million population - 1 official quota + 2 tripartite Bangladesh - 168 million - None as of now + 2 tripartite Burma - 56 million - 1 official quota + 0 tripartite Afghanistan - 32 million - No official quota + 1 tripartite Nepal - 31 million - No official quota + 3 tripartite Bhutan ( smallest ) - 0.7 million - No official + 1 tripartite Srilanka ( most respectable ) - 21 million - 4 official + 5 tripartite If I leave out Srilanka and India out of it ................here you have a region of close to 470 million population and 2 official quotas - 1 shooter and 1 judoka ( to put in perspective the entire population of south america is just 370 million or so Really this is the pits ....I think by comparison of course we at India are doing reasonably well ....105 quotas ( 2 can be considered unearned in part - swimming ) hoping to close at 115-120 .............

I really feel South Asia is the black hole of olympic sports .......look at the statistics they are shocking Pakistan - 200 million population - 1 official quota + 2 tripartite Bangladesh - 168 million - None as of now + 2 tripartite Burma - 56 million - 1 official quota + 0 tripartite Afghanistan - 32 million - No official quota + 1 tripartite Nepal - 31 million - No official quota + 3 tripartite Bhutan ( smallest ) - 0.7 million - No official + 1 tripartite Srilanka ( most respectable ) - 21 million - 4 official + 5 tripartite If I leave out Srilanka and India out of it ................here you have a region of close to 470 million population and 2 official quotas - 1 shooter and 1 judoka ( to put in perspective the entire population of south america is just 370 million or so Really this is the pits ....I think by comparison of course we at India are doing reasonably well ....105 quotas ( 2 can be considered unearned in part - swimming ) hoping to close at 115-120 ..............

oh crap ...thats a pity

Olympic club of Qatar ..............Logo - Hire an Expat to do everything- Hungarian Handbal Players, Nigerian, Morocon, sudanese, Egyptian , kenyan atheletes ( Barring the Barsim bros ) , Chinese TT players , Brazilian Volleyball players and now german boxing ...wow !!! By the way Thulasi Tharumalingam sounds more Indian / Malaysian then german ...... I think out of the 35 member squad ..they have a couple of skeet shooters and the great Barsim....the rider and possibly the horse in equistrian

Well Strictly speaking there is no championship called the world championship in Field hockey ...there is a world cup and then there is a world league and then there is a champions trophy ...............So I had taken the last major global event as the world hockey league where we had got a bronze ............But if I took the champions trophy we had got a silver ........... so i would still say that we could be considered an equivalent of a bronze .........

Well Strictly speaking there is no championship called the world championship in hockey ...there is a world cup and then there is a world league and then there is a champions trophy .................as we have a silver in the champions Trophy , a bronze in the world league and a 9th in the world cup to average it out to a bronze is reasonable ?

Personally I did not feel Sajan is not a bad choice as he is just 22 whereas Sandeep is 27 and possibly he may not be able to improve, while Sajan still may improve ( peak age is around 25 ) which may put him in the target range for Tokyo and definitely for the next asian games ....... The point difference between them was slight but they need to have a clear selection policy As far as London quite possible because it is quite incomprehensible for FINA to have such weird rule