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3 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:
Medal Projection from Nielson Gracenote 100 days out from Paris:
Gold Medalists:
Betheny Shriever - BMX Racing
Joe Choong - Modern Pentathlon
Joe Clarke - Kayak X
Kimberley Woods - Kayak X
Bradley Sinden - Taekwondo -68Kg
Bryony Page - Trampoline
Oliver Townend - Eventing Individual
Women's Madison
Women's Team Pursuit
Rowing Men's Pair
Rowing Men's Four
Rowing Men's Eight
Rowing Women's Lightweight Double Sculls
Silver Medalists:
Katarina Johnson-Thompson - Heptathlon
Josh Kerr - 1500m
Keiran Reilly - BMX Freestyle
Tom Pidcock - Mountain Bike
Tom Daley/Noah Williams - Diving 10m Synchro
Jack Laugher/Anthony Harding - Diving 3m Synchro
Sky Brown - Skateboard Park
Mallory Franklin - Canoe Slalom C1
Katie Archibald - Track Cycling Omnium
Emma Finucane - Track Cycling Individual Sprint
Track Cycling - Women's Team Sprint
Track Cycling - Men's Madison
Charlote Fry - Dressage Individual
Rowing - Women's Four
Rowing - Womens Quadruple Sculls
Michael Beckett - Sailing ILCA7
Emma Wilson - Sailing - iQFOiL
John Gimson/ Anna Burnet - Sailing Nacra 17
Shooting Team Skeet
Swimming - Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay
Ben Proud - Swimming 50m Freestyle
Georgia Taylor-Brown - Triathlon
Bronze Medalists:
Jessica Gadirova - Gymnastics Floor
Dina Asher-Smith - 200m
Matthew Hudson Smith - 400m
Keely Hodgkinson - 800m
Laura Mui - 1500m
Athletics - Women's 4x100m Relay
Athletics - Men's 4x100m Relay
Athletics - Women's 4x400m Relay
Joe Clarke - Canoe Slalom K1
Ethan Hayter - Track Cycling Omnium
Track Cycling - Men's Team Pursuit
Track Cycling - Men's Team Sprint
Andrea Spendolini Sirieix - Diving 10m Platform
Andrea Spendolini Sirieix/Lois Toulson - Diving 10m Synchro
Equestrian Team Dressage
Equestrian Team Eventing
Laura Collett - Equestrian Eventing Individual
Charley Hull - Golf
Chelsie Giles - Judo -52Kg
Lucy Renshall - Judo -63Kg
Vita Heathcote/Chris Grube - Sailing 470
Eleanor Aldridge - Sailing Formula Kite
Freya Colbert - Swimming 400m Individual Medley
Jade Jones - Taekwondo -57Kg
Rebecca McGowan - Taekwondo +67Kg
Caden Cunningham - Taekwondo +80Kg
Alex Yee - Triathlon
Beth Potter - Triathlon
Triathlon Mixed Team Relay
Emily Campbell - Weightlifting +81Kg
The fact that they are still projecting Gadirova as an individual medalist on floor when she is still in post injury rehab kind of calls into question either their methodology, or their attention to detail when analysing the output of their methodology.
The Team Skeet silver will also be a challenge given that they haven't actually qualified a male skeet shooter yet.
On the other hand Gracenote has underestimated GB's medal total at the last three Games so their value has to be taken with the proverbial pinch of salt.
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On 2/7/2024 at 3:36 PM, Rafa Maciel said:
Looking at the men's 3m springboard competition, I think we are probably sitting at between 24-27 quotas:
I think it is likely that
will end up taking 3 athletes in the 3m events. Wang Zongyuan is pretty much nailed on to do both synchro and individual, whilst Siyi Xie is likely to be favourite to get the nod for the second individual spot. The only question then is whether Xie doubles up in the synchro but given Zongyuan and Daoyi are well established pairing, I can see the team replicating their 2012 and 2016 approach and taking 3 athletes.
For
, Joules Bouyer and Alexis Jandard will likely take the synchro spot and I'd be 90%+ certain that Bouyer will also be in the individual. When it comes to the second spot, Jandard will need to fight it out against Bisch.
With
, we have our established synchro pairing of Laugher and Harding and that won't change as we go forward to Paris. Laugher is also likely to take one of the individual spots. Competition for the second individual spot will probably be among the most intense in the diving squad with at least 3-4 names very much in the mix. At this point, I'd say it is more likely than not that we will use 3 quotas in this event.
Finally, for
, the depth of their squad always makes it difficult to guess what their team will look like but again, I think it is likely they'll end up with 3 athletes on springboard. I don't think we should read too much into their results from Doha - they already had the full set of quotas from Fukuoka so didn't really need to peak for this week.
Looking across the last three OG even the teams with the greatest strength in depth haven't taken more than 12 divers to fill the 16 quotas freeing up spots for others.
China: 2012 - 12, 2016 - 12, 2020 - 10
GB: 2012 - 12, 2016 - 11, 2020 - 12
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41 minutes ago, Josh said:
Yes, but as there was no European Olympic qualifier (as France qualified a team and duet as hosts) I’m pretty sure Spain’s quota would get reallocated to Canada should they qualify a team.
So, go
Didn't Austria's qualification as European Games winners represent the continental quota in the duet, Josh?
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14 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:
As things stand, I think there are 26 individual athletes we can confidently say are going to be in the women's 10m platform events in Paris - this is likely to be an event where it is pretty safe to assume that the synchro athletes will also be selected for the individual event where they have qualified.
I wouldn't discount Eden Cheng getting in ahead of Tolson in the individual platform.
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1 hour ago, JoshMartini007 said:
I view the summer team sports as:
Football > Basketball > Volleyball > Handball > Rugby Sevens > Field Hockey > Water Polo
Rugby Sevens and Field Hockey are close IMO. Rugby Sevens does better with men while Field Hockey does better with women. Rugby Sevens also has a better global distribution IMO.
Ice Hockey (and winter sports in general) is difficult to compare. If we hold Ice Hockey to Summer Olympics standards it would rank just above Water Polo at best because so few nations participate, but fewer nations take part in winter sports so is it a fair comparison?
Depends where you are. In 2012 hockey was second only to football in terms of crowd attendances among the team sports.
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1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said:
I think the popularity ranking of olympic team sports is as follows:
Football
Basketball
Ice hockey
Rugby/Handball/Volleyball
Water polo/Field hockey
Would be interesting to compare where swimming/athletics/tennis/golf/road cycling/biathlon/alpine skiing/snowboard rank in comparison.
I think you have Ice Hockey way to high.
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3 hours ago, heywoodu said:
Josie Knight beating Franziska Brausse in the individual pursuit final by 0,003 seconds after an absolutely perfectly timed last half kilometer
What a race!
How much does that equate to in tyre width?
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On 1/13/2024 at 12:41 AM, Rafa Maciel said:
The men's sprint squad are fast becoming the weak link in an otherwise pretty impressive
Cycling team.
I think there is a strong chance that the women's sprint squad will bring back 2 medals from Paris - likely silver in team sprint but with a decent chance of gold in individual sprint. I don't think Finucane will medal in the Keirin but the event is always a bit of a lottery and can easily throw up a surprise medalist.
The women's endurance squad are probably marginal favourites for gold in the team pursuit. I am guessing Archibald will be selected for the Omnium and if she is, she should be in the mix for a medal but probably wouldn't go in as favourite. The squad will have plenty of options when it comes to the madison - I think Neah Evans is likely to be picked and probably with Elinor Barker in a repeat of the pairing from Glasgow. They would go into the competition as serious medal contenders but again the event often owes more to tactics and luck than form.
On the men's side, the team pursuiters are back on track to qualify for Paris after crashing out in Glasgow and all things being equal, they should come back with a medal. I certainly don't think we will see a repeat of Tokyo where they were caught and crashed. The biggest issue for them is likely to be the fact that they will probably be quite early in the starting order so wont be able to react to the performances of
and 
. For both the omnium and the madison, will have strong team to select from and will be medal contenders in both events but not necessarily favourites.
Then we come to the men's sprint team, and at the moment, you would have to say it does not look likely that
will win any medal across the men's team sprint, individual sprint or keirin - that is something that has not happened since Athens in 2004. In the team sprint, realistically the best they could hope for is a bronze but to do that they will likely need to overcome France. They have one of the best lead out riders in Ali Fielding and Hamish Turnbull is able to hold his own as second man. The question will then be whether they stick with Jack Carlin as the 3rd man or opt for Jo Truman. Neither Carlin or Truman were anywhere close to medaling in the individual sprint at this week's Euros and we've seen nothing to suggest they will perform any better in the keirin.
At this stage, the only unknown is going to be the impact that the new tech will have. I don't think the new bikes are being used in Apeldoorn this week so the only outing it had was in qualifying for team pursuit in Glasgow and it ended up in a heap on the floor after the crash.
The Olympic sprint programme has changed since 2004 and the men's squad did medal in the kilo that year as they had four years earlier. It would be fairer to say that it would be the first blank since 1996 if they don't pul something out of the hat in Paris.
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1 hour ago, phelps said:
VAR is definitely killing this sport
it was supposed to be used just to catch some blatant cheaters using the fly kick more than once in the breaststroke races, but it's become a farce...
according to this tournament's judges, there are a lot of swimmers that can't swim and make turns (including multiple world champions like Thomas Ceccon) as if it was a 7-year young kids' competition
Reading the threads on Swimswam the concensus seems to be that Ceccon has broken the breaststroke rules repeatedly at this meet. Have no idea if this has been the case in previous events and don't pretend to know whether they are correct or not although I would say that they are mostly longstanding contributors to the publication and do seem to know their swimming.
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On 12/3/2023 at 11:31 PM, mpjmcevoy said:
I often look at how relatively well Great Britain is currently doing in men's ice hockey (in which it has a enjoyable but hardly top tier league and limited grassroots) and baseball (where it has no league to speak of) and wonder why GBR are so fundamentally badly run in basketball - a game with far more reach, and in which, despite everything, they seem to produce a decent number of US College ballers every year...I used to wonder was it because rugby snaffled the tall talents, but I don't think it is...
There doesn't seem any will to succeed off their own backs. They constantly make demands for money and complain about the financial support given to other sports while ignoring the fact that unlike basketball they've actually done something to earn it. Basketball just doesn't seem willing to put in the hard yards despite being a professional sport with the advantages that brings.
Perhaps if the clubs stopped filling their ranks with American also rans rather than developing British qualified players it might help. I went to a school with a long history of providing women (field) hockey players to Leicester, England and GB. It encouraged fresh generations to aspire to do the same thing. The same applies to the local football and rugby clubs, particularly Leicester Tigers. Basketball needs to develop a similar culture if it is going to have greater success and build a place in local communities as football, cricket and rugby of both codes have.
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16 minutes ago, heywoodu said:
Hahahaha
Even the easy 6-0 coincidentally right after the Dutch 3-0 wasn't enough, justice
Although to be fair to Scotland, as long as the margin was in England's favour, they did put up quite a nice fight every now and then.
Lol. Pity the same cannot be said of Belgium.
The stats between England and Scotland a team who had only beaten them once ever: possession 64-36%, shots at goal 22-9.
Meanwhile in the Netherlands game against Belgium who had beaten them in their previous match in this tournament: possession 71-29%, shots at goal 32-6. To cap it all they played eight minutes of overtime to make sure the Netherlands got the goal they needed.
If there was a questionable game tonight it wasn't between Scotland and England.
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6 minutes ago, TeamGB said:
Seems a bit unfair, the match in Sunderland was a bit of an anomaly, but there is a huge gap between England and Scotland. Additionally, in the UK media, there has been a lot of talk about how scandalous it would be if Scotland gave it to England.
Watching the game, It is unfair to say that Scotland haven't been trying as they most definitely have been. They it may look like that haven't been trying during the last 3 goals but it has been unrelenting pressure from England, They have been laser focused on this and clearly want it, I don't think they have celebrated or even smiles after any of the goals, just bringing in back to the center circle for a rapid kickoff.
It's interesting isn't it. In the previous game between the Netherlands and Belgium the latter won 2-1. Now suddenly they seem impotent with just one shot at goal in the first half compared with the Netherlands' eleven and just 24% possession. It's almost as if the Belgians are trying to help their neighbours.
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21 minutes ago, Benolympique said:
the England Scotland match with an Olympic qualification stake! It's a bit strange already 4-0, and here the Scots lost the match on purpose?
So much for the "Auld Alliance", Ben. Nothing, nothing woujd make Scotland throw a match against England in any sports match. It's a long time since Scotland have beaten England and prior to the two most recent matches between the sides England beat them 6-0. England haven't played well in this tournament but they're not duffers as recent World Cup finalists.
UEFA have a lot to answer for for having put the players of all four countries in this group in such an invidious position. It isn't fair on anyone and does the reputation of football no good whatsoever.
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2 hours ago, Federer91 said:
6 days for a 25 m Championships
10-15 years ago these were 4 days tops.
All those additional mixed events!
🏊♀️🏊♂️🏊♀️🏊♂️
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On 8/29/2023 at 5:19 PM, atlana said:
I think is not related to speed (hurdles, steeplechase), or judgement (disqualifications in horizontal jumps or lines in 200 or 400 meters). It is about events with a long history behind, And they are supported by many different countries all over the world: Japan, China, Colombia, Ecuador, Mexico, Peru, Spain, Italy, Sweden...Coincidentally, no one is an English-speaking country.
Worth pointing out that race walking began in an English speaking country that also produced many Olympic champions and medallists in the sport during its long history.
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2 hours ago, Josh said:
Olympic Ranking Quotas PT 2
Men’s +80kg:
Arthur Cisse
Carlos Sansores
Ivan Sapina
Caden Cunningham
Emre Kutalmis Atesli
Women’s -67kg:
Sarah Chaâri
Magda Wiet Henin
Julyana Al-Sadeq
Alexandra Perisic
Mengyu Zhang
Women’s +67kg:
Althéa Laurin
Nafia Kus
Svetlana Osipova
Dabin Lee
Rebecca McGowan
ARTHUR Cisse, Josh?
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50 minutes ago, Andry84 said:
No, Woolley was behind iranian guy in the Olympic ranking , around 8 points behind.
Thanks. I was going by the rankings as they were on 8/11/23. I guess they must have been updated since then.
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1 hour ago, MHSN said:
have to correct myself. they received the visa last night, Saturday evening. after their competition
by my count H-Mousaei is only 6pts behind the 6th guy from Ireland. so only 10pts of participation would be enough for him to at least be in 6th place position which I believe in this weight might be enough for the quota. if WT was even half decent they had to give at least those 10pts to the Iranians. but of course I know only certain countries can have those kind of privileges.
Not sure your numbers are right. Woolley came here with a 16 pt lead over the Iranian and picked up another 15 pts by reaching the quarter-final.
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1 hour ago, mpjmcevoy said:
Things just got saucy in W+69 with Multiple World Champ Bianka Cook eliminated, with domestic rival Rebecca McGowan still in, with Jade Jones going out eRly and A Powell medalling, feels like a changing of the guard moment.... Lauren Williams looks to be done, sad loss of form, while Caden Cunninghams early elimination will have to play out. Unlike Williams, CC would get a final shot.
I think Cunningham has already done enough to qualify. All his closest rivals lost early too. Three of the four semi-finalists could overtake him but only if they win and he can afford to drop one spot. Just a cursory look but I think he's okay.
Age is on McGowan's side and the writing has perhaps been on the wall for Cook (Walkden) for the past two years with her rival picking up podium finishes at the 2022 and 2023 World Champs.
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24 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said:
They had quite a lot of problems uniting, in the run up to 2012, and the team have not been successful since. Indeed, the 'home nations' effectively launched a coup of the GB Basketball organisation a few years later, specifically to protect home nations interests at the expense of GB ones - one of the multiple reasons why GBR international basketball is a bit of a mess.
From the leading GBR Basketball website, hoopsfix:
I'm not disputing that basketball in GB is appalling badly run but it was Wales not England or Scotland which resisted a merger of the three federations.
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4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:
And is sadly never going to be fixed. Only way to do that is having Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England have their own NOC and from now on compete as four separate nations in every sport and event, including the Olympics (which would be the best solution, but is definitely not going to happen in our lifetimes), or to have Great Britain be the representative entity for them in every single sport outside of the Olympics as well, which obviously isn't going to happen neither.
So this kind of nonsense as we see right now - where even if players won't do it, the mere existence of "to have a chance at the Olympics, we need to lose by as much as possible" is obviously a very questionable situation - will just keep going on
It doesn't have to go on. There is a simple solution, albeit it is apparently beyond the competence of UEFA, and that is to ensure that England, Scotland and Wales don't compete together in the same qualifying group. It isn't rocket science as football always manipulates its draws for the major competitions to ensure countries aren't draw together, e.g. World Cup finals.
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8 hours ago, AsensioWillemsen said:
I don’t see Belgium topping. Surely England is going to win their match. Scottish fans would be disgusted when they would give away a goalfest though, cannot see that happening so easily.
even though this situation shouldn’t have happened.
You may be right but Belgium has already beaten the Netherlands in the reverse fixture. Don't write off Scotland. They've already held Belgium to two draws, the Netherlands went to Scotland and only managed a single goal while they held England to 2-1 in their first meeting in Sunderland. I really do think any of the three contenders could still qualify although the Netherlands are clear favourites.
As I and others have already mentioned any Scottish (or English) team that threw a match between the two in any sport would go down in infamy - think Chicago White (Black) Sox, 1919 but much much worse.
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6 hours ago, mpjmcevoy said:
I agree the curlers are happy. For historical reasons they tend to be drawn from rural, generally unionist communities. Its more the casual fans that grumble!
Rugby is a good point - indeed, its a shambles. Could also note that combining for basketball has not been successful, either.
Scotland and England basketballl didn't seem to have any problem uniting as GB for the Olympics. After all English and Scottish clubs compete together in the same league. The country with the issues this time is Wales.
The issue only really arises in some team sports and has more than 150 years of sporting competition behind it with the first recognised international matches in both sports being between England and Scotland - rugby union (1871), football (1872).
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1 hour ago, CCB said:
UEFA gets what it wants. England and the Netherlands will fight it out on goal difference to see who will go to the semi-finals of the Nations League and therefore have a chance of going to the Olympic Games. England plays against Scotland, and Scottish players have an interest in the biggest possible defeat, so that they can go to the Games on behalf of Great Britain. It is incomprehensible that England and Scotland are in the same group: the competition is rigged and the Netherlands has no chance in advance.
In one sense you're right. For the sake of probity England, Scotland and Wales should never be in the same group when Olympic qualification is at stake. Why UEFA has allowed it is beyond comprehension.
In another sense you're worrying about nothing. Neither England or Scotland would EVER roll over for the other in any sporting contest no matter what was at stake, particularly when they are the home side as Scotland are on this occasion. They would never be able to return home again.
Anyway don't exclude Belgium from this. If they complete the double over the Netherlands and Scotland/England is a draw they'll be going to Paris not GB or NED.
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Difficult to disagree with you Dragon, although I'd offer up two more memories to vie with Hemery's gold and WR in Mexico City as the fifth choice.
Firstly, Mary Peter's gold in the pentathlon in Munich at the height of the Troubles in Northern Ireland in 1972, despite the IRA'S death threats against her. Sport was one of the few areas in which the communities could sometimes be brought together at that time as epitomised by people like George Best and Alex Higgins who enjoyed support across the sectarian divide. It's a memory that has often been repeated on the Beeb.
Secondly, Daley Thompson winning his second gold medal in the decathlon in Los Angeles in 1984. The back flip on the pole vault mat sticks in the memory and has often been repeated on TV.