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4 hours ago, Dragon said:
https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/23720 Actually it's worse that that. 128 years
There are more questions over the citizenship of competitors at St Louis than at any other OG because of the level of immigration from European countries to the US at that time. Indeed changes are still being made in the records from time to time.
My source indicated that eleven fencers took part in St Louis with eight from the home nation, two from Cuba and one German.
In any event it's an embarrassment whether 120 or 128 years.
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31 minutes ago, heywoodu said:
This would suggest two men and two women both would be on their way to qualifying, so far?
Of course depending on the Dutch NOC, they do need a top-8 in one event in a list of events that I can't find, so....yeah
If you do find the list this site shows player's results going back over the years. Luiten had quite a few top ten finishes in 2022 and 23. Whether they were in the right tournaments though..................
https://www.espn.co.uk/golf/player/results/_/id/4831/joost-luiten
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10 hours ago, mpjmcevoy said:
I'd argue the poor performances from the French and italians is worse for Llewellin than his own dodgy form - you'd take the current GBR position in a swap, as the two 'top Brits'have clearly come into some form just at the right moment, but the complete absence of France and Italy is almost more damaging to Llewllin. One suspects GBR now have a puncher's chance, but Llewllin perosnally looks screwed.
In fairness the Italians are not shooting badly as they lie second behind GB in the team event. The problem is they have been too consistent with all three scoring 96. A couple of 97s and a 94 would have been much more helpful to the British cause.
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9 hours ago, mpjmcevoy said:
The key thing is addressing why any race in GBR is vastly more expensive to organise and run than a bigger event on the continent. As I understand it, on the european mainland, police/security costs are covered by the localities as a way of getting the event to happen, while in GB they are always covered by organisers, and that is the major problem. Is that correct?
Given the financial difficulties faced by most UK local authorities in recent years there are few if any who could afford to meet such costs. Most don't have adequate funding for the services they are legally required to provide let alone discretionary spending of this type.
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On 5/21/2024 at 7:02 PM, heywoodu said:
For men, a spot in the top-27 on the Olympic Golf Ranking at the date decided by the international federation is enough, for women this is a top-24 spot. For positions 28-59 (men), one top-8 (counting 2 players per NOC) is required in one of the mentioned events in 2023 or 2024 (but said events aren't mentioned anywhere in the qualifying document, so...no idea). For women, this is required for positions 25-59.
I assume you meant Luiten and Van Dam, now that I think about it.
Luiten and Darius van Driel.
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50 minutes ago, Dragon said:
US NCAA Regionals
Men 100m
Louie Hinchcliffe 10.00 (0.8w)
Unusually it's Hinchliffe, Dragon.
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1 hour ago, Grassmarket said:
1976 Olympic Gold in the 200m Breaststroke
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David Wilkie.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/swimming/articles/c3ggndekv8lo
Think he was the only non-
Male to take a Gold in Swimming at that Games. British sport in general was really in a slump in the mid-70s, so he was a huge star.
You're right the US won 12 out of 13 golds in the men's events while East Germany won 11 out of 13 in the women's events. The Cold War in sports in action.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming_at_the_1976_Summer_Olympics
Wilkie also won silver in the 100m breaststroke following an earlier silver in Munich in 1972. If Mary Peters was GB's star in Munich then it was probably Wilkie who fulfilled that role in Montreal.
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33 minutes ago, copravolley said:
The entire period from 2021 they were out of shape, but their form in this competition is scandalous. A few weeks ago at the European Championships, they lost to Greece by less than 2 seconds with a different lineup. This squad from the Olympics turned out to be a total failure. Unfortunately, Italian rowing is getting worse and the staff is making bad decisions. We will only qualify 7 teams, which is the worst result since 2012, when our other coaches in Romania are building their power there...
Time for Italy (Rome) to return to the days their vessels carried battering rams to gain victory?
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16 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said:
One wonders if the IOC give enough thinking to the fact that when they pick and choose disciplines, they could be creating a death sentence for the ones they throw out. Racewalking, equestrian modern pentathlon, lightweight rowing, C2 canoe slalom, individual pursuit, double trap...
The individual pursuit seems to have survived fairly well at the moment albeit with diminished fields at most championships, although whether that is sustainable is anyone's guess. I thought the C2 Canoe Slalom might at least hang on in its European stronghold but was quite surprised to see it was no longer part of the programme at the recent continental championships. Sadly the IOC's equivalent of the Black Spot is pretty deadly.
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30 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said:
Is the Para cycling now settled?
Good question! Getting info on PG paracycling quotas is one of the toughest tasks in all of sport.
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6 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said:
IOC like mixed team events. It is what it is.
Foursomes/alternative shot are simply synonyms - the opposite being fourballs/better ball. Fourball better ball wouldn't work with a mixed sex pair.
The IOC's liking for mixed events is hardly a justification for having one!
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34 minutes ago, dodge said:
Jumping may be more popular but as it has its own event, and the best jumpers are there, the jumping in eventing always seems a much lower standard
Where as the cross country is its unique selling point
It can't help the eventers that they jump after a usually gruelling xc the previous day. Moving from dressage to jumping and then xc might actually be beneficial for the horses and performances.
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15 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said:
That's almost the point. Tennis has really got into the Olympic way of things - helped enormously that the Men's Big 3/4 of the Golden Era and te Williams sisters were heavily personally invested in it., but Golf relally hasn't had that moment - Tiger Woods was pretty much done before it even began, and Rory McIlroy was, like many others, pretty lukewarm. That attitude seems to be slowly changing, but the feeling remains gold at the Olympics needs a little gimmickry, something to make it different from just another tournament, but the powers that be are adamant the individual event should be a standard 72 hole strokeplay.
The team event allows much more format fiddling, and importantly a) can being the men and women together, which matters to the IOC and b) can show off the other major format, a very popular one - Matchplay.
My suggestion, with the goal to keep the event within 72 holes total, and simple enough for non golf people to get.
16 teams of 4 (2 men, 2 women)
4 groups of 4
Playing short round-robin 9 holes matchplay in the format :
- men's singles x 1
- women's singles x 1 ,
- mixed foursome/alternate shot x 1
2 points a hole, 1 each for a tied hole, first to 10 pts(in effect 5 holes) wins - just a more causal viewer friendly way of describing the existing system (so 2 and 1 = 2 up with 1 hole left = 2 up after 8 = 5 holes to 3 (or 4 and 2 halves to 2 and 2 halves, etc)
If its 9-9 after 9, tie break is ruthless, one stroke 'nearest the pin' on 10th hole. to win single bonus point to win 10-9
Scores also act like goal difference to break ties, matches are best of three rubbers (obviously)
So thats 9+9+9, 27 holes to get to knockouts first round where 3rds play 2nds, again 9 holes ->36 holes
Day three the group winners meet the winners of 3rds v 2nds, again over 9 holes, then 4 QF winners play 9-hole semis
That's 54 holes
The medal matches are over 18 holes on the final day, but same rules except the winning mark is now 19 not 10. Otherwise, same format. Bronze medal match (consisting of 3 rubbers) goes ahead of gold medal match (consisting of three rubbers)
That's 72 holes - no longer than a standard tournament - if you want to make it even shorter ditch the group games, simply add scores from individual to create a team score, and top 8 teams go straight to QF round (wee bit like archery), whereafter system is same, that's just 36 holes over two days - Day 1 QF, SF both over 9 holes, day two medal matches over 18...
I have no problem with a matchplay tournament as we see little enough of this format on any of the golf tours. I could even live with a mixed event with two days of strokeplay to determine a matchplay field of 16 or 32. What I don't see any reason for is a mixed team event.
Incidentally aren't foursomes and alternate shot the same thing? Do you mean foursomes and fourballs?
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On 3/20/2024 at 5:22 PM, NearPup said:
Ya, golfers have been asking for a team event since day zero. If golf is going to be in the Olympics this is necessary.
Why? It's not as if they compete together normally.
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45 minutes ago, dodge said:
They didn’t really have them to be fair. Different for women where the difference isn’t so pronounced but lightweight men has never been a focus for the big nations (with respect to Italy)
As Rafa said some did prior to the removal of the men's lightweight four from the programme. Having a squad of say eight lightweight rowers was sustainable where 2-3 is not, particularly when the writing was on the wall for the lightweights at Olympic level. And once it goes from the OG it slowly dies a death at WC level as we've seen with the small number of entries - usually led by Italy - in non-Olympic classes. It's happened in other sports as well, e.g. the double trap in shooting.
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6 hours ago, dodge said:
Also, interestingly enough (to me), of the 6 nations with the highest number of boats qualified so far, none will have a lightweight men's double in Paris. Those top 6 could change with qualifiers here but currently they're Romania, Netherlands, Australia, GB, USA and New Zealand. Only the USA attempted to qualify in Lucerne
Stronger nations running down their lightweight programmes as this is their final Olympic appearance, perhaps?
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4 hours ago, dodge said:
Finalists by country
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5
4
3
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1
Countries without a quota so far still involved in finals (not inc re-allocated spots); Estonia, Portugal, Moldova, Slovenia, Sweden
No nation will have the full quota of 14 boats and 46 rowers. The USA could have 13 if their 5 remaining crews here finish top 2
46 rowers + 2 coxswains = 48 quotas!
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2 hours ago, Book said:
Biggest surprise is Erin Mcniece
getting the 3rd position, this is her highest ranking in any competition but with 5th in both boulder and lead at the world cup season opener (also in China) she might just be peaking in the right year.
Nearly perfect competition for
with a men's win and women's second, should be a strong team with a chance for a medal.
And, oh my god, Brooke Raboutou.
The grit she presented on Boulder 2 and in the final moments of her lead is what got her this win. That's what you want to see from an olympian. She was 4th in the world championships and 2nd in the PanAm, twice mere points away from a quota, so no surprise she leads this competition. She's basically qualified if she gets top 20 in Budapest.
I just got tickets for the women's lead qualification in Paris (and men's speed finals) and based on what happened in Shanghai that should be one of the best tickets at the games. So hyped.Peaking in climbing is always a positive move.
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On 5/16/2024 at 1:12 AM, Makedonas said:
We will miss this sport for the first time in 68 years
Can beat you both in a different sport. GB will not have a fencer at the Games for the first time in 120 years. In St Louis in 1904 at least there was the excuse that very few non-Americans participated in any of the sports.
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Andrew Pozzi showing some revived form to secure an OQT of 13.23 in the 110m hurdles in France today.
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