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For the Festival of Music type of competition where the users would be free to chose any country to represent (I would suggest letting users choose even those countries that are regularly represented in TISC), I would use this system to avoid conflicts: First every user who wants to participate makes their list of songs they would like to submit in a preferential order. They would be free to have any number of songs from any number of countries on their list. Then if there isn't a conflict, meaning that a user has a country as their #1 choice that no one else has as a #1 choice, then that user gets to represent that country and song. If there's a conflict, meaning that two or more users want to represent the same country with different songs, the host would decide with a draw. The user who won the draw would represent the country with their selected song, and the user(s) who lost it would go on to the next round.... Where all the users who didn't get to represent their #1 choice would have chance with their #2 choice. If the country of their #2 choice was already taken in the previous round, or they lose the draw once again in a conflict, they would go on to the third round with their #3 choice. This goes on until either everyone gets a country+song, or the users left without a country ran out of options on their list. If the latter happened, we would have another similar selection process for these users if they still wish to participate.

Because that's pretty much the definition of an "All-star contest", a special edition where the best of the previous entries compete once more. But I am not entirely sure if this would be fun, because many jurors hasn't been around for all these editions. But we can add "All-star" to the other special contests suggested.

I think instead of the Top3s of previous editions it would be better to have the best songs from each countries. And letting the jurors decide which song is their best one. So it would be like a normal TISC, with the one exception being that only previous TISC entries would be eligible. For example, I would have to chose one of these 5 Hungarian songs (the last Hungarian entry hasn't been added yet): https://totallympics.com/index.php?/topic/2339-totallympics-international-song-contest-history-and-statistics-thread/page/4/&tab=comments#comment-282574

Hint: it depends on where would we draw the line for a "Got Talent", but technically even some Olympic sports can qualify, because they have "artistic performances". Like figure skating (the gala performances), or artistic swimming. Maybe even some of artistic gymnastics. And outside of the Olympics there's dancing (samba), aerobics, and so on, so our sport knowledge can help to find acts for a "Got Talent".

btw, it took me less then one minute to find the first Hungarian act that I would gladly send to a Totallympics Got Talent contest, so it might be easier to find performances for this than I first thought.

First we should probably just vote if we want to have some kind of a contest similar to TISC in the summer. And then if that vote goes through, we can have a second vote about what kind of a contest that would be, a special TISC where users will be free to send songs from any nation, not just their own, or a Got Talent contest with the TISC format, or something else.

Hm, a Got Talent version is an interesting idea. So basically a contest similar to TISC where we can submit any kind of acts from our country, excluding music with lyrics (so instrumental music would still be eligible). That sounds just as intriguing as a special TISC.

I meant it like "be glad that the US didn't pick a song that would have had even more of an advantage than the Shawn Mendes song, and would have most likely won the contest with ease, making the final rather boring".

As I have said months ago, just be glad about that the US didn't pick Bad Guy or Old Town Road or a song from Lizzo or from Ariana Grande.

Those 5 silver medals must be some kind of a record.

I didn't want to make another post about a potential "special edition" in the Annual 2020 thread, because this is a topic for this thread, so I will say one more thing about it here: IF we have a special contest, I think it should be "in Japan", and therefore the user hosting the event should represent Japan. But it may not be easy to find a user who has the time and energy to host a TISC, and knows enough about the Japanese culture. As for the question of whether we should have a "one-time-only" special edition this summer... well, this might be the most empty summer ever in terms of international sport events, so... personally I think it's worth a vote in this thread.

Well, if we will have a special edition because of COVID and the postponement of the Olympics, it would be appropriate to have the Grand Final on the day of the postponed Opening Ceremony (July 24). Edit: Or maybe on the day of the Closing Ceremony (August 9).

If I am not mistaken, while Canada has the lowest score for a TISC winner with 151 points (previous was 158 points for Lithuania from O2015), China also has the lowest score for a TISC runner-up with 140 points (previous was 142 points for Brazil from A2017). France was also close to breaking the negative 3rd place score record with their 131 points, they are the second lowest, ahead of Ireland (127 points, O2018).

The point difference between the Top2 nations, Canada and China, per countries: CAN +12 or +11 (4) - CAN +10 or +9 (1) - CAN +8 or +7 (4) - CAN +6 or +5 (1) - CAN +4 or +3 (4) - CAN +2 or +1 (3) - 0 (9) - CHN +1 or +2 (1) - CHN +5 or +6 (2) - CHN +7 or +8 (2) - CHN +9 or +10 (4) - CHN +11 or +12 (3) - 17 countries preferred Canada, 12 countries preferred China.

Congrats Canada, China and France! And I am pleasantly surprised about our 8th place and 102 points, best result ever for us at the Annual contest, and the second Top10 placement in a row.

And now Uruguay will get the 12 points.

Canada wins because they got their points from more nations.

I don't think anyone mentioned this: China is the first Asian country to reach the final Top3 in TISC history.

FYI the difference between Canada and China was 57 points after 18 nations.

China needs 12 points from Slovakia, because Canada wins in a tie.

Is there a record for most silver medals without a single gold?

Nobody actually remembers those except us.

Meanwhile Hungary has 4 silver medals and 0 gold. We are Netherlands now.

Let's see what were the Top5 nations in the 3 sessions so far: Morning session 1. 56pts 2. 38pts 3. 34pts 4. 33pts 5. 31pts Early Afternoon session 1. 38pts 2. 38pts 3. 37pts 4. 37pts 5. 36pts Late Afternoon session 1. 51pts 2. 42pts 3. 38pts 4. 38pts 5. 36pts Yep, Canada wasn't in the Top5 in the last two sessions.

One more comparison with the last contest, just to show how low the points are this time, after 28 nations. 1. 169pts 2. 141pts 3. 137pts 4. 112pts 5. 101pts