JoshMartini007

The ICF is the worst at releasing information to the public. I usually have to rely on the host country to release the results. I sometimes wish they would get the "wrestling treatment" and get thrown out of the Olympics until they get their act together.

It's more upsetting here because Sao Tome and Principe could qualify their first athletes here.

I see only one non-Northern African athlete in Greco-Roman, Namibia in -66kg. Not too surprised since the region dominates Greco-Roman in the continent, but I thought other nations would at least attempt to compete. Where's Nigeria? They could have challenge for the spots.

At this rate France's team will be non-existent.

Only one athlete from Turkmenistan remains. He'll have to beat a fellow -stan nation in order to qualify.

5 minutes ago, Jur said:

I think Andorra may have the chance to qualify Marcos Sanza in men's marathon.

Does he still compete? I had him before, but I couldn't find any results in 2015 so I thought he retired.

5 hours ago, dcro said:

Looks like Guam has pretty much secured a quota in men's mountain bike. Their cyclist is one of the 12 that competed at Oceanian championships. Still waiting for results, but all he needed is to finish the race (what would give Guam ranking points). He can get UCI points even if he gets lapped.

 

And Guam is going to be represented by... Dr. Peter Lombard. That must be the first doctor ever that will compete in mountain bike at the Olympics! He is actually an eye doctor.

 

This is his latest post on Facebook page.

 

 

He (or someone else) needs to get 10 UCI points before they are allowed to be selected.

If you're giving Germany a chance I'd give France a chance. Most likely it will go to Russia. The Canada/Russia match on the first day may be very decisive (winner becomes the big favourite to finish second in the group.

How did Papua New Guinea get the 3 seed in the -75kg? He's not event the best boxer in Oceania.

7 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I'm guessing RUS, ITA and NED all would not exactly have been ideal opponents  

 

It's a shame that Spain just destroyed Canada in two segments of a few minutes (from 3-5 to 7-5 and later when moving up to 10-6)...there was more possible for the Canadians  

True we would have been underdogs against all three of those teams, but morale is a factor in sport and Canada is going in with low morale against a team with high morale just to make things harder.

Shame, it was going to be hard no matter who our quarterfinal opponent was, but finishing fourth and facing the winner of Russia/Italy is pretty close to worse case scenario.

No New Zealand player in the women's table tennis Oceania qualifier, most likely Fiji will qualify.

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Men's 100m (athletics)

Assuming nations pick the higher ranked boat it looks like all three women's single sculls boats will be reallocated (poor El Salvador). For the men's things get complicated, with this assumption Brazil will pick their lightweight double sculls and the single sculls spot will go to Venezuela while Mexico will take its single sculls spot thus giving the lightweight double sculls spot to Chile. Chile however, finished fourth in both the single and lightweight double sculls boats.

Should Paraguay somehow fail to get one of the reallocation spots they will be the very heavy favourite to one of the tripartite spots. Should Paraguay qualify normally the tripartite spot will become more open with Honduras becoming the favourite in this region (Bolivia, Nicaragua and St. Vincent and the Grenadines are the only other eligible boats which competed here).

7 minutes ago, mrv86 said:

If qualified tomorrow in men's Lightweight double sculls, Mexico probably will reject the single sculls quota. 

 

It's so unfair that only one boat can qualify through continental regatta.

The federation wants to qualify as many nations to the Olympics. It's also unfair that Canada and US can't compete here (or Australia and New Zealand in Asia/Oceania).

That's good, it makes sense that Caribbean nations would take an interest in rowing, especially former British colonies.

It's not formally rejected, New Zealand can still give the quota to someone else

Hopefully Canada can upset Greece or Spain and finish at least third in the group. Fourth place is no good and even third would put us as an underdog.

I decided to do a comparison between this format and the 2012 format. As a reminder the continental qualifiers gave Africa 50 spots (+2 tripartites) to be used across the 10 men's events (some events got 6, others 5 and others 2), for every athlete qualified in the respective event from a different event one less would go to the continental qualifier. Algeria qualified two athletes outside of the continental route therefore Africa had 48 quotas. For 2016 Africa received 30 quotas, 3 per event.

13 different nations qualified here while 19 qualified during the 2012 qualifiers. If you adjust for the quota difference 16 would have qualified assuming everything was equal. Uganda and Lesotho qualified athletes after failing to qualify in 2012 while Ghana (4) and Gabon (2) were the nations which qualified multiple athletes in 2012 yet failed to qualify in 2016. One thing that surprised me is that I thought the top nations would retain their quotas better while the lower nations would suffer from the lower quotas for the continent, but after adjustment the only top nation which did better was Algeria (qualified 5, 2012 adjusted was 4) while Morocco, Cameroon and Egypt stayed the same.

4 hours ago, Grego said:

Algeria has qualified 7 Boxers,all Men(more than what Morocco has qualified in the Men's category).

Only natural,as Algeria is considered as the number One and the power house of the continent in Men's Boxing.

We were talking only about the continental qualifiers, Algeria qualified two out of those seven men in other categories.

4 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

How did you calculate?

4/7 for Bayern/Barca/Real not playing against each other and then 4/7*4/7*4/7*4/7*4/7?

 

The formula would be...

(8/8*6/7*4/6)^5

2 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Well, there can be equally as much corruption regardless of wheter the athletes are selected before or after qualification tournament.

 

As for South Africa, I wouldn't be surprised if some appeals about their selection systems emerge. Obviously there is no point in appealing about selection criteria if you haven't qualified in first place.

Correct. So there isn't really a fair way to do this. Also Morocco is the only nation majorly benefiting from the current format as all of the other African/American nations have not qualified more than 5 men/2 women (~50%, like in taekwondo). Seems like a lot of work just to lower quotas for one nation (maybe there might be a couple more for Europe/Asia)

On 2016-03-18 at 8:20 AM, heywoodu said:

I thought "Hmm maybe he is exaggerating, let me check"...this is the 5th consecutive year 

Weird indeed.

 

I'm too sleepy for it, but in a magical world where the draw is indeed completely fair, how big would the chance (in %) be of this happening 5 consecutive times?

6.1%, not likely, but still possible I guess.

6 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

There should be some objective ways for deciding that. If someone wins qualification tournament that should be more valuable then qualifying through box-off.

 

Morocco qualifies 9 boxers this time. Out of 8 boxers that they had in London, 7 (!) of them went out in round one. I really don't see the point in that. It's going to be something similar in Rio probably.

If you allow all of them to participate in the qualification tournament then you won't get an idea on who actually deserves to go. Weren't we complaining about South Africa competing here despite knowing full well they wouldn't compete in the Olympics? At least in taekwondo only two athletes compete in the qualification tournament.

I disagree, why should an athlete be not only the best at their event for their nation, but be better than someone in a different event? It opens up corruption (how can you measure whether someone is better in the light flyweight vs. the bantamweight?), weakens the overall field and could shrink the interest of the sport in some nations.

Overall it was a good day for Japan, winning 3/4 available quotas for them.