[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[bestmen 2,918]

also in canada you can't get the necessary medical care , if you haven't the health insurance

many people have died  because they are poor without insurance

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 8, 2019 by bestmen

[Olympian1010 8,284]

4 hours ago, bestmen said:

also in canada you can't get the necessary medical care , if you haven't the health insurance

many people have died  because they are poor without insurance

Yeah, no. Definitely not what I’ve heard from the Canadians I’ve met.

[bestmen 2,918]

In Berlin they celebrate today 30 years of the fall of the wall 

 

[AlFHg 330]

Today there were general elections in Spain and Presidential election in Romania. In the latter, the liberal Iohannis is looking for his second term and will be challenged in the ballot by the socialdemocratic Dancila, who is a former PM of Romania.

 

As regards Spain, PSOE (socialist) lead the elections, confirming the same percentage of April 2019 but losing 2-4 seats. Their most probable allies, Unidos Podemos and Mas Pais, (which is born as a consequence of a division from UP), had an overall loss of 4 seats. Right wing parties, (Popular party and far right Vox) rose sharply, especially the latter which doubled its seats. However, this is in my opinion a Pirro victory as the other leg of a possible right wing coalition, Ciudadanos, lost in practice the same amount of seats earned by the other two parties. From an external view, considering I really do not understand the composition of the galaxy of small and regional parties in Spain, the net result of the elections is that right wing has increased its total number of seats by 3, so no majority will be easily found.

Edited November 10, 2019 by AlFHg

[thiago_simoes 1,458]

There has been a coup d'etat in Brazil, now we have one in Bolivia and I'm not so sure about Chile's future. South America is in danger.

[Olympian1010 8,284]

Just now, thiago_simoes said:

There has been a coup d'etat in Brazil, now we have one in Bolivia and I'm not so sure about Chile's future. South America is in danger.

South American politics have always been...interesting...to say the least. The world’s in a bit of a slump right now. Social change is coming and going daily. People are just trying to figure out their place, and get a better life for themselves.

[LDOG 2,474]

I find funny that now they will vote for president the same man they ejected (with protests as well) to elect Morales.  

 

South american lives in a time loop. 

[thiago_simoes 1,458]

1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

South American politics have always been...interesting...to say the least.

80% of the time the countries responsible for completely destabilizing the politics in South America are the United States and England (mostly in past centuries). Of course things are a lot more complex than simply stating "they started it", but in one way or another these nations are always meddling with politics here, either because they want money (the British in the past), oil (the US) or simply destabilize SA so that the region gets discredited (and loses economic prestige and investments). 

I'm aware of the complexity of a military coup d'etat, and I know it takes more than influence of a foreign nation to start it. Democracy in Brazil, Chile, Argentina and Uruguay is fragile and democratic ideals are somewhat recent. Venezuela spent 14 years under Chavez's orders, and Bolivia spent 13 years under Morales' control, but theoretically they were elected in democratic elections. It's very suspicious that the (far right) politicians in these nations had to seek for foreign intervention so they could forcefully depose the presidents of the nations.

As I said, I fear for the region. I'm convinced a military coup d'etat will take place in Brazil soon (maybe next year) if Lula keeps getting stronger, since Bolsonaro and the military forces would not be happy with Lula's popularity. Chile is in complete chaos right now, but at least the population is fighting back. Argentina chose a left wing president, so they are (in theory) not in danger of a coup d'etat, but as unlikely as it may seem, I'm afraid that the far right there could simply invoke foreign help to cancel the elections and cause turmoil in the nation. South America is a mess right now. 

[Olympian1010 8,284]

Odd story here: https://apple.news/A7G1UUKiJR2GfCSxsAmeYVA

 

I do often think the United States would be better if we just disbanded.

[intoronto 6,862]

On 08/11/2019 at 07:02, bestmen said:

also in canada you can't get the necessary medical care , if you haven't the health insurance

many people have died  because they are poor without insurance

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is 100% false information. All health care is state funded. Drugs are not funded, however.