De_Gambassi 984 Posted June 23, 2016 #61 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Il y a 5 heures , Gianlu33 a déclaré: You have a document of dopig state in China? Actually no. So, actually they are clean. Please ,can we move from the not caught athletes = clean athletes mantra. Since the Armstrong case, it really something that has lost most of its substance. Considering the very weak efficienty of the doping tests, they can't be used as a defintive proof of the 'cleanness' of an athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 139 Posted June 23, 2016 #62 Share Posted June 23, 2016 how many americans winning medals in Weightlifting? 0 , Pretty safe to assume that we are not doping there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,285 Posted June 23, 2016 #63 Share Posted June 23, 2016 6 hours ago, Gianlu33 said: You have a document of dopig state in China? Actually no. So, actually they are clean. So were all other Olympic champions just a few weeks ago. When it comes to China it will ALWAYS be suspicious, they just have leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 984 Posted June 23, 2016 #64 Share Posted June 23, 2016 il y a 5 minutes, Maxim Fastovsky a déclaré: how many americans winning medals in Weightlifting? 0 , Pretty safe to assume that we are not doping there Not necessarily Most of the dopers actually never win any medal. Considering the number of cases we have in this sport, the very heavy doping culture that is rife since pretty pretty much ever, it's safe to assume any weightlifter in Rio will be a doper unless proven otherwise (much like cycling at the end of the 90's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 139 Posted June 23, 2016 #65 Share Posted June 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said: Not necessarily Most of the dopers actually never win any medal. Considering the number of cases we have in this sport, the very heavy doping culture that is rife since pretty pretty much ever, it's safe to assume any weightlifter in Rio will be a doper unless proven otherwise (much like cycling at the end of the 90's) good thing we wont have any weighlifters in rio LOL well.... 4 that no one really cares about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,922 Posted June 23, 2016 #66 Share Posted June 23, 2016 57 minutes ago, Maxim Fastovsky said: good thing we wont have any weighlifters in rio LOL well.... 4 that no one really cares about Indeed it's a shame people only care about the more famous athletes Oh well, luckily the less famous athletes have the real sports fans to support them as well If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,922 Posted June 23, 2016 #67 Share Posted June 23, 2016 By the way, Dutch media is apparently already 100% sure that the ban for these three nations will start before the Olympics, meaning they'd miss the Olympics entirely. Any other media in other nations reporting the same? Because as far as I know, IWF hasn't confirmed at all when the bans would start. Though it makes sense if it happens before the Olympics, because I'm guessing they'd start as soon as all the cases are confirmed by the IOC. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 139 Posted June 23, 2016 #68 Share Posted June 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, heywoodu said: By the way, Dutch media is apparently already 100% sure that the ban for these three nations will start before the Olympics, meaning they'd miss the Olympics entirely. Any other media in other nations reporting the same? Because as far as I know, IWF hasn't confirmed at all when the bans would start. Though it makes sense if it happens before the Olympics, because I'm guessing they'd start as soon as all the cases are confirmed by the IOC. According to american media IOC still might kick russia out completley, pending on the results of the sochi investigation, though find it hard to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 984 Posted June 23, 2016 #69 Share Posted June 23, 2016 il y a 2 minutes, heywoodu a déclaré: By the way, Dutch media is apparently already 100% sure that the ban for these three nations will start before the Olympics, meaning they'd miss the Olympics entirely. Any other media in other nations reporting the same? Because as far as I know, IWF hasn't confirmed at all when the bans would start. Though it makes sense if it happens before the Olympics, because I'm guessing they'd start as soon as all the cases are confirmed by the IOC. http://www.lequipe.fr/Halterophilie/Actualites/Halterophilie-les-russes-prives-de-jeux-a-rio/698223 It seems so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted June 23, 2016 #70 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I guess we'll have to wait 2 or 3 months to find out who is qualified. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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