copravolley 317 Posted Monday at 12:54 PM #71 Share Posted Monday at 12:54 PM (edited) On 3/17/2025 at 12:47 PM, heywoodu said: Conditions really weren't that great for track records yesterday though, he had a more than excellent race. Expand Maybe, but he won with the smallest margin in 10 km in 2 years. I think, that since the 2023 World Championships, he has always won with a margin of more than 10 seconds. I simply expect more from Ghiotto than from Lollobrigida. Ghiotto's victories have become the norm in a sense and Francesca was a great surprise. Especially since her favourite distance is 3 km and mass start, not 5 km. Edited Monday at 12:56 PM by copravolley Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 317 Posted Monday at 01:07 PM #72 Share Posted Monday at 01:07 PM Lollo's victory in the 5 km was like for me a first date I haven't been this happy in a long time. Ghiotto's another golds in 10 km are just like an old good marriage, but without that wow effect Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,332 Posted Monday at 02:08 PM #73 Share Posted Monday at 02:08 PM (edited) On 3/17/2025 at 1:07 PM, copravolley said: Lollo's victory in the 5 km was like for me a first date I haven't been this happy in a long time. Ghiotto's another golds in 10 km are just like an old good marriage, but without that wow effect Expand And that's why it's never nice when someone is so dominant....wins always become 'normal' and anything else is disappointing, leading to no result ever being 'nice' anymore Edited Monday at 02:08 PM by heywoodu copravolley 1 . Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 317 Posted Monday at 03:13 PM #74 Share Posted Monday at 03:13 PM (edited) On 3/17/2025 at 2:08 PM, heywoodu said: And that's why it's never nice when someone is so dominant....wins always become 'normal' and anything else is disappointing, leading to no result ever being 'nice' anymore Expand Just like Sven Kramer some times ago Generally, it's good to have a few sure gold medalist so that the situation in medal table is OK, but then there's no need to even watch it, for example yesterday at one point I didn't even want to watch Ghiotto, I just wanted to check the results later. I remember I was very happy when Fabris won gold in Turin 2006 in the 1500 meters. He also started slowly and everyone had a big advantage over him before the last lap and everyone was losing time: Davis, Wennemars, Hedrick etc. Edited Monday at 03:21 PM by copravolley Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 4,716 Posted Tuesday at 08:41 PM #75 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:41 PM Giovannini revealed that Ghiotto ran the 10,000 having lost a contact lens at the start and was losing his second lens in the race Josh, heywoodu and copravolley 3 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,332 Posted Wednesday at 07:07 AM #76 Share Posted Wednesday at 07:07 AM On 3/17/2025 at 3:13 PM, copravolley said: Just like Sven Kramer some times ago Generally, it's good to have a few sure gold medalist so that the situation in medal table is OK, but then there's no need to even watch it, for example yesterday at one point I didn't even want to watch Ghiotto, I just wanted to check the results later. I remember I was very happy when Fabris won gold in Turin 2006 in the 1500 meters. He also started slowly and everyone had a big advantage over him before the last lap and everyone was losing time: Davis, Wennemars, Hedrick etc. Expand Yeah, but that was entirely expected. Nobody thought Fabris was losing it, considering the last lap was his big weapon every single time. Like in the women's 5k Beune generally starts super fast and Conijn often finishes very fast, which in the end means sometimes one is faster, sometimes the other. Sure gold medals don't exist, by now we should all know that I think Which is good, because the more sure a gold medal is, the less interesting it is to watch and as sports fans, I assume in the end we mostly watch to see exciting competitions. . Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 317 Posted Wednesday at 11:21 AM #77 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:21 AM On 3/19/2025 at 7:07 AM, heywoodu said: Yeah, but that was entirely expected. Nobody thought Fabris was losing it, considering the last lap was his big weapon every single time. Like in the women's 5k Beune generally starts super fast and Conijn often finishes very fast, which in the end means sometimes one is faster, sometimes the other. Sure gold medals don't exist, by now we should all know that I think Which is good, because the more sure a gold medal is, the less interesting it is to watch and as sports fans, I assume in the end we mostly watch to see exciting competitions. Expand That's why I like Wilkund, because she's so human: she doesn't dominate and she often has human crises. In addition, she's a beautiful woman. Ted 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlo 149 Posted Thursday at 01:58 PM #78 Share Posted Thursday at 01:58 PM On 3/16/2025 at 3:14 PM, copravolley said: Sochi with 4 golds is rather impossible to beat, but in Vancouver there was only 1 gold. In Sochi Poland basically everything worked well. And on Russian terrain :P In 2014, there were no Putin wars yet and the situation wasn`t as tense as it is now. Expand Still both are quite legendary for us in number of medals. 6 for Poland is like 40 in the summer 😉. So hard to tell about golds but we have a chance for WOG nr 3 in our history. Nr 3 also because without ski jumping chances (rather so). I fell in love with sports.....since i first seen it Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlo 149 Posted Thursday at 01:59 PM #79 Share Posted Thursday at 01:59 PM On 3/17/2025 at 7:42 AM, vovanA said: maybe he will be renamed as Władek for the Olympics? Expand Delicate subject, we are not consistent lets say but of course, every medal will be important. I fell in love with sports.....since i first seen it Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 317 Posted Thursday at 02:13 PM #80 Share Posted Thursday at 02:13 PM On 3/20/2025 at 1:58 PM, Pavlo said: Still both are quite legendary for us in number of medals. 6 for Poland is like 40 in the summer 😉. So hard to tell about golds but we have a chance for WOG nr 3 in our history. Nr 3 also because without ski jumping chances (rather so). Expand If they remove Norway completely, that leaves 4.5 countries that are seriously this sport (I count Japan as 0.5 now), but I hope that won't happen. I prefer Norway to Austria, which was the first to start the ski jumping arms race in the early 21st century. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28812-speed-skating-isu-single-distances-world-championships-2025/page/8/#findComment-684978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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