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AIN athletes qualification for Paris 2024 Olympic Games and reallocation of quotas [post#1 updated 15.07]

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Is there still a possibility some Russian and Belarusian athletes get pushed back, even in events where those athletes have been invited? 

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So, we have a list of reallocations for AINs frpm belarus   Short notes from the IOC statement:   1. Decisions to reject quotas are final. 2. Decisions to approve quotas are n

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As it stands, I believe these are the reallocations:    Women's -48kg:  Sabina Giliazova reallocated to  Katharina Menz reallocated to  Ana Viktorija Puljiz (Reallocation Returned Continenta

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Unconfirmed as yet but the rumour is that the whole Russian judo team (or at least 90%) have been rejected by the IOC

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6 minutes ago, avlar said:

Right now Chamizo goes to the Games

 

Zaurbek Sidakov was disallowed and UWW must reallocate this quota to another NOC.

 

It must be reallocated to Chamizo. I do not see any other correct way (it cannot go to another russian anymore).

I was on his Instagram and I don't see his training. The IOC should clarify the relocation issue as soon as possible.

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3 minutes ago, Cinnamon Bun said:

Is there still a possibility some Russian and Belarusian athletes get pushed back, even in events where those athletes have been invited? 

Press release notes that "This list will be updated in line with the decisions of the Individual Neutral Athlete Eligibility Review Panel"

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6 minutes ago, Cinnamon Bun said:

Is there still a possibility some Russian and Belarusian athletes get pushed back, even in events where those athletes have been invited? 

Invitations can be cancelled at any moment. They just have to post some Zs on their social networks )

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avlar   568

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2 minutes ago, Dragon said:

Press release notes that "This list will be updated in line with the decisions of the Individual Neutral Athlete Eligibility Review Panel"

Yes, IOC is still to make decisions on:

- Canoe sprint

- Judo

- Rowing

- Tennis

- Modern Pentathlon

- Shooting

 

But for the sports in the latetst statement lists are expected to be final.

Russian Taekwondo federation confirmed that they will have 0 athletes in Paris and they cannot appeal, because IOC uses invitations to confirm quotas.

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6 minutes ago, avlar said:

Yes, IOC is still to make decisions on:

- Canoe sprint

- Judo

- Rowing

- Tennis

- Modern Pentathlon

- Shooting

 

But for the sports in the latetst statement lists are expected to be final.

Russian Taekwondo federation confirmed that they will have 0 athletes in Paris and they cannot appeal, because IOC uses invitations to confirm quotas.

So can athletes in wrestling for example still get invites rejected despite checks seemingly already taken place? 

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4 minutes ago, Cinnamon Bun said:

So can athletes in wrestling for example still get invites rejected despite checks seemingly already taken place? 

Yes. According to the IOC they can be sent home even during the Olympics

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Now the first official update according to the IOC statement on the 15th of June https://olympics.com/ioc/paris-2024-individual-neutral-athletes

 

Short notes from the IOC statement:

 

1. Decisions to reject quotas are final.

2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation.

3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not

4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs).

 

Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet.

Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC (not AIN) according to the IOC decision.

The most probable reallocation is mentioned in the table.

 

Here we have russians - belorussians to follow

 

Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision
Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay :KAZ AIN - Nachin MONGUSH
Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan :MDA AIN - Shamil MAMEDOV
Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg a) Lu Feng **
or
b) Frank Chamizo 		:CHN
:ITA 		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov :UKR AIN - Arslan BAGAEV
Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg a) Illia ARCHAIA**
or
b) Magomed Ibragimov 		:UKR
:UZB 		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz  :VEN AIN - Abdulla KURBANOV
Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg

a) Gabija DILYTE**

or
b) Emanuela LIUZZI

:LTU
:ITA 		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Annika WENDLE :GER AIN - Natalya MALYSHEVA
Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Khongorzul BOLDSAIKHAN :MGL AIN - Veronika CHUMIKOVA
Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Ameline DOUARRE :FRA AIN - Alina KASABIEVA
Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska :UKR AIN - Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA
Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Razvan ARNAUT :ROU Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Kamal Ameer BEY :USA Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu :NOR AIN - Alan OSTAEV
Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis :GER AIN - Magomed MURTAZALIEV
Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg a) Georgi IVANOV**
or
b) Heiki Nabi 		:BUL
:EST 		Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov :SRB Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Nikita Rafalovich :UZB Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová :CZE Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl :AUT Reallocation to another NOC
Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia :POR AIN - Anzhela BLADTCEVA
Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV  Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI  Arsen SLIWINSKI :POL  
Cycling Tamara DRONOVA Road -   AIN - Tamara DRONOVA
Cycling Alena IVANCHENKO Road -   AIN - Alena IVANCHENKO
Cycling Alexandr VLASOV Road -   AIN - Alexandr VLASOV

 

** - important precedent was found by @Faramir to show alternative way of reallocation supported by @Art Art:

a) at a single tournament - quota goes to the first eligible athlete at the tournament where it was won by AIN, not taking into account those who won quotas later

b) chronologocally - tournament by tournament - with cascading redistribution of quotas, taking into account those who won quotas later and redistributing their quotas from later tournaments.

 

These alternative ways are show in the table only for the quotas determined to the reallocation by the IOC.

 

These alternative ways are show in the table only for the quotas determined to the reallocation by the IOC.

 

*** - thanks for @mard0n and @MantaRaymarc. It looks to be the fiest reallocation confirmed by the IF

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8 minutes ago, avlar said:

Now the first official update according to the IOC statement on the 15th of June https://olympics.com/ioc/paris-2024-individual-neutral-athletes

 

Short notes from the IOC statement:

 

1. Decisions to reject quotas are final.

2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation.

3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not

4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs).

 

Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet.
Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC according to the IOC decision.

 

Here we have russians - belorussians to follow (and it may add some reallocation correction)

 

Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision
Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay :KAZ AIN - Nachin MONGUSH
Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan :MDA AIN - Shamil MAMEDOV
Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo :ITA Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov :UKR AIN - Arslan BAGAEV
Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia Archaia :UKR Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz  :VEN AIN - Abdulla KURBANOV
Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg Mercy Genesis :NGR Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki :GRE AIN - Natalya MALYSHEVA
Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina Hrushyna :UKR AIN - Veronika CHUMIKOVA
Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Mariana Cherdivara :MDA AIN - Alina KASABIEVA
Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska :UKR AIN - Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA
Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Kim Da-hyun :KOR Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Iuri Lomadze :GEO Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu :NOR AIN - Alan OSTAEV
Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis :GER AIN - Magomed MURTAZALIEV
Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi :EST Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov :SRB Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Ray Rahi (?) :LBN Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová :CZE Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl :AUT Reallocation to another NOC
Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia :POR AIN - Anzhela BLADTCEVA
Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV  Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI  Arsen SLIWINSKI :POL  
Cycling Tamara DRONOVA Road -   AIN - Tamara DRONOVA
Cycling Alena IVANCHENKO Road -   AIN - Alena IVANCHENKO
Cycling Alexandr VLASOV Road -   AIN - Alexandr VLASOV

I don't think that Archaia received this place, because Baran from Poland had better total pts

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11 minutes ago, avlar said:

Now the first official update according to the IOC statement on the 15th of June https://olympics.com/ioc/paris-2024-individual-neutral-athletes

 

Short notes from the IOC statement:

 

1. Decisions to reject quotas are final.

2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation.

3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not

4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs).

 

Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet.
Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC according to the IOC decision.

 

Here we have russians - belorussians to follow (and it may add some reallocation correction)

 

Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision
Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay :KAZ AIN - Nachin MONGUSH
Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan :MDA AIN - Shamil MAMEDOV
Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo :ITA Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov :UKR AIN - Arslan BAGAEV
Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia Archaia :UKR Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz  :VEN AIN - Abdulla KURBANOV
Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg Mercy Genesis :NGR Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki :GRE AIN - Natalya MALYSHEVA
Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina Hrushyna :UKR AIN - Veronika CHUMIKOVA
Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Mariana Cherdivara :MDA AIN - Alina KASABIEVA
Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska :UKR AIN - Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA
Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Kim Da-hyun :KOR Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Iuri Lomadze :GEO Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu :NOR AIN - Alan OSTAEV
Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis :GER AIN - Magomed MURTAZALIEV
Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi :EST Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov :SRB Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Ray Rahi (?) :LBN Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová :CZE Reallocation to another NOC
Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl :AUT Reallocation to another NOC
Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia :POR AIN - Anzhela BLADTCEVA
Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV  Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI  Arsen SLIWINSKI :POL  
Cycling Tamara DRONOVA Road -   AIN - Tamara DRONOVA
Cycling Alena IVANCHENKO Road -   AIN - Alena IVANCHENKO
Cycling Alexandr VLASOV Road -   AIN - Alexandr VLASOV

Ivanova (62 kg) also banned 

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