Swimming at the Aquatics WA World Championships 2024

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2 minutes ago, Triplecast said:

Chinese Taipei has its own song for gold medalists, but its not the ROC national anthem.  That was all part of the deal with the PRC to allow Chinese Taipei to compete - they could not use their official national anthem.  I would assume their anthem was the pre-1949 national anthem.

But how about Hong Kong? If one competes as a certain entity, said entity should have an anthem....

 

It was even literally announced as 'the anthem of the People's Republic of China!'.

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4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

But how about Hong Kong? If one competes as a certain entity, said entity should have an anthem....

 

It was even literally announced as 'the anthem of the People's Republic of China!'.

Hong Kong is administered since 1997 by the PRC.  But the agreement between the UK and PRC when Hong Kong was turned over to China stipulated that Hong Kong would be a separate political entity with its own government until 2047.  But since China controls HK, The March of the Volunteers is the official national anthem, not God Save the King as it was pre-1997.

 

Taiwan, on the other hand, is, in PRC-parlance, is a breakaway area that is still part of China.  But since China has no political control over the Taiwan government, they still use the ROC anthem.  However, for the Olympics, China can dictate what song is used for Taiwan gold medalists.  

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3 minutes ago, Triplecast said:

Hong Kong is administered since 1997 by the PRC.  But the agreement between the UK and PRC when Hong Kong was turned over to China stipulated that Hong Kong would be a separate political entity with its own government until 2047.  But since China controls HK, The March of the Volunteers is the official national anthem, not God Save the King as it was pre-1997.

 

Taiwan, on the other hand, is, in PRC-parlance, is a breakaway area that is still part of China.  But since China has no political control over the Taiwan government, they still use the ROC anthem.  However, for the Olympics, China can dictate what song is used for Taiwan gold medalists.  

Then wouldn't it make sense for Hong Kong not to compete as a separate entity? Either compete as an entity with it's own anthem, or have the athletes be part of another entity with an anthem. Or, easier, don't win gold medals, but yeah  

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22 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

But how about Hong Kong? If one competes as a certain entity, said entity should have an anthem....

 

It was even literally announced as 'the anthem of the People's Republic of China!'.

British Virgin Islands didn’t have their own anthem until McMaster’s won his first Commonwealth Games gold medal. They have since changed anthems though.

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3 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Then wouldn't it make sense for Hong Kong not to compete as a separate entity? Either compete as an entity with it's own anthem, or have the athletes be part of another entity with an anthem. Or, easier, don't win gold medals, but yeah  

HK is a separate political entity, for now, until 2047.  Really HK's status is like Puerto Rico and a lot of other territories competing separately.  One difference is that when Puerto Rico wins a gold medal, they don't play The Star Spangled Banner, but Puerto Rico's anthem.  

 

However, note that Bermuda and other British territories (and HK pre-1997) do use God Save the King as their anthem.

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7 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Then wouldn't it make sense for Hong Kong not to compete as a separate entity? Either compete as an entity with it's own anthem, or have the athletes be part of another entity with an anthem. Or, easier, don't win gold medals, but yeah  

Hong Kong isn’t really that sovereign since the PRC clampdown during the pandemic. It’s honestly a slap in the face of places like  that they are allowed to compete at the Olympics (and yes, I do understand the nationality rules and how places were grandfathered in).

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5 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

British Virgin Islands didn’t have their own anthem until McMaster’s won his first Commonwealth Games gold medal. They have since changed anthems though.

Didn't realize that, thanks.  I do know that when Bermuda won the women's triathlon in Tokyo, God Save the Queen was played.

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35 minutes ago, Triplecast said:

Didn't realize that, thanks.  I do know that when Bermuda won the women's triathlon in Tokyo, God Save the Queen was played.

In that case I hope Bermuda never win a gold medal again.

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47 minutes ago, Triplecast said:

Didn't realize that, thanks.  I do know that when Bermuda won the women's triathlon in Tokyo, God Save the Queen was played.

Technically speaking, they will have changed their anthem for Paris 2024 

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Tomoru Honda sprained his ankle 9 days ago but he was still able to win gold today.