[OFF TOPIC] Coronavirus Pandemic

[Agger 1,663]

10 minutes ago, up and down said:

So what is the secret of success for these 8 countries who have achieved more than 50% recovery rate?

 

1. Mass testing is done on daily basis for their citizens. Anybody who wants to get the test can be tested.

 

2. Early detection of cases. These 8 countries managed to detect their patients early and gave them early treatment which lead to high recovery cases.

 

3. Good contact tracing and good strategy to identify the source of the spread in the cluster and prevent the virus from spreading.

 

4. These countries have even drawn maps about the clusters and could even identify how the virus spread in the cluster. Once a person is infected with the virus, the close contact, family members and relatives of the infected person will be immediately called for testing which managed to help prevent the virus from spreading.

 

5. These countries also have good healthcare facilities and their healthcare facilities is ranked as the top 10 best in the world.

 

6. These countries are also well prepared right from the beginning to face the pandemic. Lots of quarantine centres and hospitals are prepared in advanced to host the patients. These countries have also prepared more than enough beds and ventilators for their patients.

 

So what can we learn from these countries?

 

Early detection and early preparation save lives. Prevention is always better than cure. Some countries with poor recovery rate and high number of cases should perhaps pay a visit to these 8 countries and learn from them how to manage the pandemic better.

 

I would really only call no. 5 completely true when it comes to Denmark!  We were very quick (and apparently good) at shutting down and thereby stopping the spread, keeping it away from the elder.

The preparation was mainly done while the number of cases was very low. It seemed like a lot could have been ready beforehand. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure plenty of countries are less capable of handling a pandemic than Denmark, but in the beginning it did not feel prepared.

 

Almost 70 % of the positive tests in Denmark are people below 60 (one of the main groups tested are people in health care and eldercare and people needing these). Less than 10 % are 80 or above where the death rate is quite a bit higher than the rest. That's the key to the death/recovery rates. And sure that can tell a lot about different strategies, but..

We can do a lot to prevent it, but we cannot completely take luck out of calculation when it comes to recovery rate. That's one of the main reason for the death rates in Sweden, where they haven't done as good a job keeping the them safe (just below 25 % of positive cases in Sweden are 80+). They have slightly lower death rates in 90+ and slightly higher in 80-89 and 70-79.

 

I have no doubt that more testing makes opening up easier

[up and down 82]

3 minutes ago, Agger said:

 

I would really only call no. 5 completely true when it comes to Denmark!  We were very quick (and apparently good) at shutting down and thereby stopping the spread, keeping it away from the elder.

The preparation was mainly done while the number of cases was very low. It seemed like a lot could have been ready beforehand. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure plenty of countries are less capable of handling a pandemic than Denmark, but in the beginning it did not feel prepared.

 

Almost 70 % of the positive tests in Denmark are people below 60 (one of the main groups tested are people in health care and eldercare and people needing these). Less than 10 % are 80 or above where the death rate is quite a bit higher than the rest. That's the key to the death/recovery rates. And sure that can tell a lot about different strategies, but..

We can do a lot to prevent it, but we cannot completely take luck out of calculation when it comes to recovery rate. That's one of the main reason for the death rates in Sweden, where they haven't done as good a job keeping the them safe (just below 25 % of positive cases in Sweden are 80+). They have slightly lower death rates in 90+ and slightly higher in 80-89 and 70-79.

 

I have no doubt that more testing makes opening up easier

Thank you very much for your explanation.

[rybak 3,222]

1 godzinę temu, up and down napisał:

Top countries with the best recovery rate as of 18th April 2020.

 

 

On  all 11 cases have recovered

[up and down 82]

23 minutes ago, rybak said:

On  all 11 cases have recovered

Thank you very much for your information.

[heywoodu 15,174]

Just for clarification about the recovery rates: the Netherlands don't keep track of that, so no wonder we don't appear in those lists  

[up and down 82]

7 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Just for clarification about the recovery rates: the Netherlands don't keep track of that, so no wonder we don't appear in those lists  

Sorry to say Netherlands recovery rate is low with only 250 patients recovered and 27,738 still under treatment.

[heywoodu 15,174]

8 minutes ago, up and down said:

Sorry to say Netherlands recovery rate is low with only 250 patients recovered and 27,738 still under treatment.

 

I told exactly in my post why that seems to be like that and why it says nothing  

[up and down 82]

21 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

I told exactly in my post why that seems to be like that and why it says nothing  

Hope for speedy recovery.

[heywoodu 15,174]

1 minute ago, up and down said:

Hope for speedy recovery.

 

Yes, probably not much different than in other countries. I'll just repeat: in the Netherlands recoveries aren't really reported (of course people recover, it's just not reported as 'official' statistic).

[OlympicIRL 5,532]

Recovery rates are not accurate as a lot of countries are not even reporting or updating on recovery rates.