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Many Thai change their names to bring them good luck, and athletes in dire situation are the most likely to do that

hmmm, Martirosyan's entry is much better but then we know Armenians usually post entries much higher than their capabilities. and on other hand Nurudinov usually doesn't show his cards and post low entries. if you ask me I still pick Nurudinov. Armenians are good but they rarely win the whole thing. (actually only one gold in whole history !!)

"I know Iran once had a world champion, but forgot his name....I believe an 'Ali' once won a gold medal." :p 
 

Good point. yes true. I usually have that problem when I watch basketball and since I also like to watch the stats at the same times. spoiler sometimes.
 
btw I'm watching this on an Iranian channel and when the Bulgarian came the commentator talked about the history of Bulgaria in weightlifting and how they had a champion Ivanov !! I'm a bit lazy to check but I somehow think the guy didn't really know what he is talking about, (as most Iranian commentators do) Ivanov is a common name in Bulgaria. there is a big chance we have a World Champion with this name Ivanov

http://tv.online.tm/ch004.html

I mean, I'm not gonna say I love you, but it is close 

here
https://www.iwf.net/protocols/

the final start list
https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2018/10/Start_Book_Ashgabat.pdf
 
Ilya Ilyin is still there but apparently he is not going to actually lift anything here. and only 8 Iranians here. instead of 10 and those 3 weightlifters who were supposedly wasn't included in the original entry list are still absent. we will know the truth about it soon. but I believe our federation probably made a big big administrative mistake in registering them.
 
interesting that Martirosyan put 440kg as entry ! which means he has to start at least with 420. he is either very dumb or in a very great shape. big challenge for Nurudinov. and guess who is back !!! Andrei Aramnau after 4 years !
 
out of our 8 weightlifters, one of them is in Group B. and from the rest I believe Moradi has a very good chance for the gold (unless he bombs out) Hashemi also will have a good chance for gold (or at least a medal) if Ilyin really doesn't show up.. in this weight Beiralvand has the 3rd entry behind Ilyin and Hashemi. still hard to believe he is a medal chance ! also a very slim chance for Barari. the rest are just here to make the numbers . one of the worst teams we sent in past few years. but at least most of them are young. and suppose to be talented. and this is one of the rare years in which we are not a medal chance in super heavyweight. last year we had 2 on the podium ... Salimi is retired now and Alihosseini is a bit injured and took a break.
 
this is the list of weightlifters with the highest entry in each weight
 
55kg: OM Yun Chol, 285kg
61kg: QIN Fulin & MOSQUERA Francisco & THACH Kim Tuan, 310kg
67kg: CHEN Lijun, 330kg
73kg: SHI Zhiyong, 348kg
81kg: LYU Xiaojun & LI Dayin & ASAYONAK Petr & MAHMOUD Mohamed & KARAPETYAN Andranik, 370kg
89kg: KHADASEVICH Pavel, 373kg
96kg:  MORADI Sohrab, 410kg
102kg: HASHEMI Ali & ILYIN Ilya, 400kg
109kg: MARTIROSYAN Simon, 440kg
+109kg: TALAKHADZE Lasha, 460kg

the final start list
https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2018/10/Start_Book_Ashgabat.pdf
 
Ilya Ilyin is still there but apparently he is not going to actually lift anything here. and only 8 Iranians here. instead of 10 and those 3 weightlifters who were supposedly wasn't included in the original entry list are still absent. we will know the truth about it soon. but I believe our federation probably made a big big administrative mistake in registering them.
 
interesting that Martirosyan put 440kg as entry ! which means he has to start at least with 420. he is either very dumb or in a very great shape. big challenge for Nurudinov. and guess who is back !!! Andrei Aramnau after 4 years !
 
out of our 8 weightlifters, one of them is in Group B. and from the rest I believe Moradi has a very good chance for the gold (unless he bombs out) Hashemi also will have a good chance for gold (or at least a medal) if Ilyin really doesn't show up.. in this weight Beiralvand has the 3rd entry behind Ilyin and Hashemi. still hard to believe he is a medal chance ! also a very slim chance for Barari. the rest are just here to make the numbers . one of the worst teams we sent in past few years. but at least most of them are young. and suppose to be talented. and this is one of the rare years in which we are not a medal chance in super heavyweight. last year we had 2 on the podium ... Salimi is retired now and Alihosseini is a bit injured and took a break.
 
this is the list of weightlifters with the highest entry in each weight
 
55kg: OM Yun Chol, 285kg
61kg: QIN Fulin & MOSQUERA Francisco & THACH Kim Tuan, 310kg
67kg: CHEN Lijun, 330kg
73kg: SHI Zhiyong, 348kg
81kg: LYU Xiaojun & LI Dayin & ASAYONAK Petr & MAHMOUD Mohamed & KARAPETYAN Andranik, 370kg
89kg: KHADASEVICH Pavel, 373kg
96kg:  MORADI Sohrab, 410kg
102kg: HASHEMI Ali & ILYIN Ilya, 400kg
109kg: MARTIROSYAN Simon, 440kg
+109kg: TALAKHADZE Lasha, 460kg

the final start list
https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2018/10/Start_Book_Ashgabat.pdf
 
Ilya Ilyin is still there but apparently he is not going to actually lift anything here. and only 8 Iranians here. instead of 10 and those 3 weightlifters who were supposedly wasn't included in the original entry list are still absent. we will know the truth about it soon. but I believe our federation probably made a big big administrative mistake in registering them.
 
interesting that Martirosyan put 440kg as entry ! which means he has to start at least with 420. he is either very dumb or in a very great shape. big challenge for Nurudinov. and guess who is back !!! Andrei Aramnau after 4 years !
 
out of our 8 weightlifters, one of them is in Group B. and from the rest I believe Moradi has a very good chance for the gold (unless he bombs out) Hashemi also will have a good chance for gold (or at least a medal) if Ilyin really doesn't show up.. in this weight Beiralvand has the 3rd entry behind Ilyin and Hashemi. still hard to believe he is a medal chance ! also a very slim chance for Barari. the rest are just here to make the numbers . one of the worst teams we sent in past few years. but at least most of them are young. and suppose to be talented. and this is one of the rare years in which we are not a medal chance in super heavyweight. last year we had 2 on the podium ... Salimi is retired now and Alihosseini is a bit injured and took a break.
 
this is the list of weightlifters with the highest entry in each weight
 
55kg: OM Yun Chol, 285kg
61kg: QIN Fulin & MOSQUERA Francisco & THACH Kim Tuan, 310kg
67kg: CHEN Lijun, 330kg
73kg: SHI Zhiyong, 348kg
81kg: LYU Xiaojun & LI Dayin & ASAYONAK Petr & MAHMOUD Mohamed & KARAPETYAN Andranik, 370kg
89kg: KHADASEVICH Pavel, 373kg
96kg:  MORADI Sohrab, 410kg
102kg: HASHEMI Ali & ILYIN Ilya, 400kg
109kg: MARTIROSYAN Simon, 440kg
+109kg: TALAKHADZE Lasha, 460kg

as I said before they always have a legitimate excuse for that. the only time it got out of hands was World U23 Wrestling when Israeli wrestler beat the American wrestler surprisingly and Iran had to wrestle Russia at the same time on another mat and his coaches shout to him to "Alireza lose" that was something they couldn't deny.
 
and Iran is not the only country with that policy, at least right now, you hear that about Iran only because Iran is more active in sports comparing to other Islamic countries with the same policy. there were some hope after that wrestling accident that they will change that policy. lots of talks and discussion that this is a useless strategy and we gain nothing from this but then again the man who has the ultimate word in Iran made it clear that nothing is going to change about this.
 
personally I hated this since the first day. this is disgusting and shameful . athletes have to try the entire year for one important moment of their career and have to give up that because of stupid politics. I know 2-3 athletes that their careers got ruined only because they had to miss their golden opportunities. sometimes you can't get a second chance. I don't know whey everybody else is complaining, the only one should complain is Iranian athlete who forced to do something he probably doesn't want to do. for example the Israeli guy here most probably could not beat our World Champion here. Mollaei by withdrawing just awarded him an easy gold medal. another example Israel had won only one medal in history of World Taekwondo Championship. that's because Iranian athlete withdrew in quarterfinal and gave a free medal to Israel. if someone someday wants to withdraw against Iranian athletes. I'm totally fine with that and will take that medal.
 
I would be OK with a temporary suspension if this could actually change something but since I know it doesn't , i prefer our athletes participate and just hope for a no-israel draw. at least for now. but I'm thinking what will happen if one day Israel qualifies for the FIFA World Cup and gets Iran  in the group stage ! football is the only sport that "matters" in Iran. that might make a change but we will never know.

here is the match, fake injury. that's a shame a World champion has to perform such a silly show. I read a comment from Mollaei himself he claimed he withdrew from the bronze medal match cuz he didn't want to see Iran's flag behind Israeli ! but I assume when you withdraw a match because of injury, they automatically won't let you compete in the repechage. right ?
 
 
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not really. most of Russian wrestlers faced brutal draw here. they were all well-prepared and deserved the gold medal. I think they got one or two dubious calls in freestyle but in Greco-Roman they were very very dominant.
 
I'm sure I didn't mention Kudla here in this championship but yeah your memory works very well. I just hate wrestlers winning medal by doing NOTHING and just winning by cautions. Metehan Basar for sure and I can add Nemes to the list as well. he won last year title only by cautions if I'm not wrong he scored one "real" point in the whole competition ! and maybe the Norwegian guy Stig Andre Berge. and there was a guy from Denmark Mark Madsen. I assume he is retired now.
 
but nobody is even close to Nabi for me. this guy won several medals by poor luck. I'm sure you guys think I'm exaggerating but if you watch his matches in youtube you won't find him executing a technique or something. he is a two time World Champion ! he is just hard to score on. that's the only thing I give him credit for.

Just watched the last action, Turkey scored a takedown but they annulled that because she grabbed a pulled Mongolian hair for a moment before the action, I'm not really familiar with such action, things like that never happen in men's wrestling. they penalized her for that , giving 1pt to Mongolia. but it took time to add that 1 extra point to the scoreboard and for a second Turkish girl thought she is going to win the match

I'm not sure if there is something against it but I won't be surprised if he doesn't show up. that was just a guess specially if Israeli athlete wins the gold, even though Mollaei won't know that his match will be held before the final

actually because IOC forced them to have 7 weight classes at the Olympics. so they thought 7 is too low. so they changed the whole thing to have a 10 weight classes including 3 non-Olympics and as usual they do the same for women.

I really like this Egyptian kid, that was sad to see him broken after the match. and he has a good future ahead of him but he is way too one-dimensional . he is very tough, he reminds me of some of our golden generation wrestlers. but he has to add more to his arsenal to be successful in senior level. just pushing and being tough is not enough. because sometimes you give up a 4pts throw and with this style there is no way you can come back from this.

interesting that both of them were quite unknown before today ! I believe they used the element of surprise to win few matches. but Russians probably scouted then very well for the afternoon session when they had the time.
 
yeah very bad for South Korea. one of them even lost to Ecuador !
 
well Greco is not popular in USA. most of their current team members are freestyle rejectees . if someone fails to make the team in freestyle then he tries Greco ! we had the same situation in Iran 20 years ago.

It's not only about who gets the control at the end. 1 for blue was correct. Red was never exposed to lose 2pts. expose means your back on the mat or at least with more 90 degree angle. Blue got one point at the end because of his takedown (counter attack takedown means 1pt and not 2) but I also believe Red could get 2 and not 4. they gave him 2+2. the gave him a 2 at the start of the action considered blue as exposed which was dubious to me but the 2nd "2" was indeed correct both of his shoulders touched the mat at the same time.
 
I would give it 2-1 for Red the whole action but well certain countries usually get the calls in dubious situations. 6 came to my mind, South Korea is one of them. plus the host nation (in this case Hungary)

there is but not in just one link. that's complicated lol
they just called up Fris on Mat C. you better hurry if you want to watch

Thanks for the magnificent analysis. I just watched the match with the analysis by the side just to understand the rules better.
 
So one question - with 30 seconds left to go in the 2nd period, JPN clearly took down Russia onto his back, and both of them were on their feet when action began. So why was it a 2 and not a 4 (JPN coach clearly thought it was 4). Is it because JPN didnt have control with the Russian on his back ?? (Also, in this action, the final result after review WAS 2-1 in favor of Japan, and not 2-2. Russia got the extra point because of a failed challenge from Japan).
 
Also, in the end when they put the Russian in par-terre, shudnt the clock have been reset for 4 seconds to 7 seconds. It didn't matter much but shud have been done right ??

Here we are always using father's name in Egypt , but when someone is known globally he uses his last name only like western countries , also Alaaeldin abouelkassem our legendary fencer , his father's name is al sayed but when he won silver in London 2012 , he just used Abouelkassem in his official accounts on social media and even people here know him as Abouelkassem 

most people don't know that because most of the times it comes to the last score.
 
btw if you watch the scoreboard , when the score is tie they show a "line" under the score of the winner to show who is leading the match at the time. that's a good thing because in past we had some situations when after the end someone started celebrating but after a minute he was told "sorry you lost it" specially in high scoring matches (for example in case of 10-10) it's hard to remember who scored bigger points.
 

lol no when your challenge fails you lose a point. but he sent off because he entered the mat and didn't leave it after the first warning.
 
first tiebreaking criteria is the biggest score. for example 2 > 1+1 and in that case Bonne scored a 5 and Rashidov scored 1 five times. 5 > 1+1+1+1+1
the 2nd tiebreaking criteria is the number of cautions. the last score is the 3rd criteria

Yes , current rules say
first day morning: Preliminary rounds up to quarterfinal
first day evening: semifinals
2nd day morning: repechage
2nd day evening: bronze and gold finals
 
this is not mandatory . still some minor tournaments use the old one day competition format (e.g. Asian Games) but all major tournaments will follow this  system