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At this point with all the withdrawals I am starting to hope that Fucsovics might have a shot at a good tournament here, despite his disappoint results during the clay season.

Balogh Mátyás kvótát szerzett íjászatban. 1996 óta ez az első magyar kvóta íjászatban. Rio Tokyo Diff Archery - 1 +1 Athletics Marathon/RW 8 2 -6 Badminton 1 2 +1 Boxing 2 1 -1 Canoe Slalom - 1 +1 Canoe Sprint 15 17 +2 Cycling Mountain Bike 1 2 +1 Cycling Road - 1 +1 Diving 1 - -1 Fencing 9 10 +1 Gymnastics Artistic 2 1 -1 Gymnastics Rhythmic - 1 +1 Handball - 14 +14 Judo 8 7 -1 Karate - 1 +1 Modern Pentathlon 4 4 Rowing 3 1 -2 Sailing 5 4 -1 Shooting 8 4 -4 Swimming Marathon 3 2 -1 Table Tennis 3 5 +2 Taekwondo - 1 +1 Tennis 2 3 +1 Triathlon 4 4 Water Polo 26 24 -2 Weightlifting 1 1 Wrestling 8 6 -2 114 120 +6 Athletics 11 6 -5 Swimming 34 22 -12 159 148 -11

What the actual fuck, did we win a quota? Um, archery experts, what's going on? Is this some weird unexpected quota or is this some sort of universality deal where many European countries can qualify one athlete? This is the first Hungarian quota in Archery since 1996.

This isn't about women's weightlifting or how much people care about it. I am sure most people won't watch the event itself but the videos and images of her competing can and most likely will go viral everywhere as literally everyone has an opinion on trans people competing in women's sport and this sets a precedent on the biggest stage of international sports. I mean, she's already on the front page of CNN.

The atmosphere won't be great, but it's better than nothing.

The real problem is that you are apparently one of those many people who think political debate is about declaring that the people who you disagree with have an invalid opinion and then hope that you took the side of the majority on the issue. You can see how much this line of thinking helps progressives to win elections in Hungary.

Munich represents an entire country when it's hosting a big international event just like how Budapest does. For example, I agree with the activism that the mayor of Budapest is conducting against the Chinese university that Orbán wants to build in the city but I would never agree to have any kind of official messages against the Chinese university at a football match against China set in Budapest. The mayor was elected to represent the people of the city, an international match reflects on the entire country, not just on the hosting city.

I hope she's ready to become the most hated person in the world if she wins a medal. This will get really ugly as soon as the general public starts to care about the 2020 Games. I think this kinda went under the radar as COVID dominated the discourse, but that will quickly change once people move on from all the cancellation talk.

I am surprised it took this long, but it looks like American media is catching up the hot topic of Olympic cancellation. They are quite late as this debate seems to be already settled, unless a new wave starts in Japan in the next month.

"common decency" That's where the problem is, you think that Western Europe and the US are the center of the world. Is it decent? Arguable, the view on it varies depening on where you live. Is it common? It's certainly not everywhere in the world. Personally I am on side of people who support the cause, but this entire issue is up for political debate. And those debate shouldn't be had at an international sport event. The last time people let politics take center stage at international sport events, it destroyed two Summer Olympic Games.

Let me guess, if the arena will be in rainbow colors, that will be Munich as a city doing something, not Germany right? You are hopeless, the perfect example of arrogant people on the West who feel that they know everything and they are better because they are winning a moral superiority contest that only exist in their head. Your arguments boil down to "our political activism is good, therefore it's not political and should be allowed at international sport events". Pure nonsense.

As far as I know UEFA had that Respect campaign which pretty much everyone can get behind as it's a "watered down" anti-racism stance without bringing any political movements into the sport like BLM. But that was during the 2000s / early 2010s, not sure what's the deal now. The EU's official stance is that all member states should respect European values, but new member states such as Hungary and Poland clearly disagree with the others on what those values are. By in between I meant that Hungary obviously doesn't view same-sex activity as a criminal act and also has civil union for queer couples, but no marriage, so they don't have the same rights as straight people. What all the fuss is about now is that Orbán has decided is that the parents should have full control over how much their children learn about LGBT people. As far as public education goes this doesn't change much, I think there were already no mention of queer people during sex ed classes as teachers couldn't be bothered to make the extra effort. The real change is that technically TV networks can be fined if they broadcast LGBT content without permission, but the law is so vague that nobody actually knows how this will work in practice, not even Orbán himself because he couldn't give less shit about law itself, it's all just an act to hide corruption and to split the opposition.

Jesus, you don't even understand what the word "political" means. I will help you: no, it doesn't only cover geopolitical conflicts. Disagreements between countries can't just be only about territories. It can be about ideologies. And the last I checked the world wasn't exactly a place where every countries agrees on certain social issues. Now, let's say that we allow the pride flag in. Do we also allow for those countries who view same-sex activity as a criminal act to burn the pride flag at the start of the match? Both are, you know, political ideologies that either view queer people as equal or as people who shouldn't even exist. Both types of countries are part of the international sports community, and also many others who are in between the two in terms on where they stand on this issue. But here's a bright idea: maybe international sport events aren't the best place to decide what ideologies are the superior.

...I don't even know how to respond to this. How the fuck is it not political to fight for equal rights? It seriously blows my mind that you even ask this. Is this an attempt at trolling?

https://www.dw.com/en/euro-2020-uefa-takes-no-action-against-manuel-neuer-and-dfb-over-pride-armband/a-57971971 Well, there you go, if it's a good cause according to the UEFA, it doesn't matter that players bring political symbols to a match. And what's a good cause? Apparently something that the West cares about because that's where the money is. Ukraine isn't an important market, so their issues weren't a "good cause", their political slogans were too much for UEFA and got removed. To be clear, I wasn't in favor of what Ukraine intended to do with their jersey. But I am also not in favor of what the Germans are doing. I am also not in favor of Hungarians bringing pre-Trianon Greater Hungary symbols to any match, especially to those where we play against our neighbors. But if you open the door to one of these, you either open the door to all of them, or you will cause a revolt when you pick your favorite political causes for a sport that's literally played by everyone around the world. "We are striving for open football." Bullshit. Football isn't an American sport. It's international and it's for everyone. The way to keep football open is to keep activism outside of the matches. What they are doing with this is the exact opposite. What UEFA is striving for is to not fall out of the graces of their most important money makers when they are fighting a war with FIFA.

I am starting to feel really sorry for Turkey, I hope that they score at least one goal somehow.

How are the Western liberals aren't one giant blob at this point in many ways? After many decades of Americanization there's no point in making a distinction when it comes social issues, especially in terms of how Western liberal media writes about these issues. There are "Hungary BAD" articles being written in multiple Western countries, so why should I bother listing the countries instead of just calling them "the West"? If it's okay to use the rainbow colors as part of the official decoration, what's stopping other, less liberal countries to use political symbols in the official decoration that are less accepted in the West? And they aren't supporting anyone, that's the issue. It's reactionary nonsense just like all the pride flags during the visit of Putin. It's obvious what the motivation behind this is, there were no talks about pride flags at the EUROs before Orbán decided that this will be the hot topic of the month to make his voters forget that he's selling the country to China.

I see that the Western articles about the behavior of the Hungarian fans have arrived as it was expected. Cue to sweeping statements from some people about how Hungary is fascist and racist and shouldn't be allowed to host international events. Interestingly enough nobody is making a big deal about how the French fans were throwing plastic glasses and bottles in the direction of Gulácsi. But they will "show it to Hungary" in Munich by decorating buildings with pride flags and maybe even have the arena lit up in rainbow colors (doubt that UEFA will allow the latter). As if anyone here would either care or appreciate such a gesture. Hungarian conservatives won't give a shit about it or they will laugh at it, and the Hungarian progressives will see it as an empty gesture because they know Germany won't actually do anything that can help their cause in Hungary.

for sure in men's hammer throw for the gold IF we won't have a chance to win the event (I doubt it, I think Halász would need a miracle). It would be criminal if Pawel Fajdek would miss yet another chance for the gold, he's one of the greatest athletes ever in men's hammer throw.

Speaking of our women's water polo curse, there's another curse in team sports: Sweden in men's handball with 4 silver medals. So I hope that they will finally win that gold if they will be in the final again.

It's her first Games and she didn't win a medal at the 2021 ECh, so I didn't want to suggest that this is a clear medal chance for us. She has a shot at winning a medal, as shooting is quite unpredictable, but for her first Games I will already be very happy if she qualifies for the final. I am cautious about our chances in shooting because we haven't won a medal since Athens.

Spain is this year's Portugal and will qualify with 3 draws, right?

This seems to be a good opportunity for me to make a "Hungarian medal chances per day" post, I wanted to do this anyway at some point. I am only mentioning events where a medal wouldn't be surprising (in my opinion). Probably my most "controversial" decision is that I am leaving women's 200m IM off, I think it would be surprising if Hosszú wins a medal in that event. Events with our best chances are in bold. July 24 - Day 1 (1) Fencing, men's individual sabre, Áron Szilágyi / András Szatmári July 25 - Day 2 (3) Swimming, women's 400m IM, Katinka Hosszú Fencing, men's individual epée, Gergely Siklósi Shooting, men's 10m air rifle, István Péni July 26 - Day 3 (1) Fencing, women's individual sabre, Anna Márton / Liza Pusztai July 27 - Day 4 (0) July 28 - Day 5 (3) Swimming, men's 200m butterfly, Kristóf Milák / Tamás Kenderesi Fencing, men's team sabre, Hungary Judo, men's 90kg, Krisztián Tóth July 29 - Day 6 (1) Swimming, women's 200m butterfly, Boglárka Kapás July 30 - Day 7 (0) July 31 - Day 8 (2) Swimming, men's 100m butterfly, Kristóf Milák Fencing, women's team sabre, Hungary August 1 - Day 9 (0) August 2 - Day 10 (1) Shooting, men's 50m rifle 3 positions, István Péni August 3 - Day 11 (5) Sailing, men's finn, Zsombor Berecz Canoe Sprint, men's K1 1000m, Bálint Kopasz / Ádám Varga Canoe Sprint, women's K1 200m, Dóra Lucz Canoe Sprint, women's K2 500m, two Hungarian boats Wrestling, men's Greco-Roman 77kg, Tamás Lőrincz August 4 - Day 12 (3) Wrestling, men's Greco-Roman 67kg, Bálint Kopasz Wrestling, men's Greco-Roman 87kg, Viktor Lőrincz Swimming, women's 10km, Anna Olasz August 5 - Day 13 (4) Athletics, women's heptathlon, Xénia Krizsán Canoe Sprint, men's K1 200m, Sándor Tótka Canoe Sprint, women's K1 500m, Danuta Kozák / Tamara Csipes Swimming, men's 10km, Kristóf Rasovszky August 6 - Day 14 (1) Modern Pentathlon, women's, Michelle Gulyás August 7 - Day 15 (5) Water Polo, women's, Hungary Modern Pentathlon, men's, Ádám Marosi Canoe Sprint, women's C2 500m, Hungary Canoe Sprint, women's K4 500m, Hungary Wrestling, men's freestyle 65kg, Iszmail Muszukajev August 8 - Day 16 (1) Water Polo, men's, Hungary

When is the first realistic medal chance of the Games for your nation? Day 1, Fencing, men's individual sabre. We got reigning two-time Olympic champion Áron Szilágyi and former World champion András Szatmári. Plus Gémesi can also surprise. I think it would be a letdown if none of them win a medal. When do you think your nation will get their first medal and in which event? Hopefully in men's individual sabre, that would give us a lot of hope for whole Games. And if not that... well, we might be in for a disappointing Games if we won't win a medal by Day 2, as we will have multiple chances, like with reigning World champion Gergely Siklósi in men's epée, Katinka Hosszú in women's 400m IM and István Péni in men's 10m air rifle. We have to win a medal at one of these events, otherwise the alarm bells will start to ring that Tokyo might be another Beijing for us. Is there a bumper day for your nation where you expect more than one or a few medals to come? If so, what day? I have already mentioned Day 2. On Day 5 we have men's 200m butterfly with Milák and men's team sabre, but should bring medals for us, and on the same day we also have our best judoka, Krisztián Tóth. But the real answer to this question: Canoe Sprint. On the days of the canoe sprint finals we should win multiple medals and on those days we also got other strong medal chances, like Tamás Lőrincz in wrestling or Zsombor Berecz in finn. Is there a day when you expect to have not so much competitors from your nation competing or no chances for medals? We have qualified 3 teams and we usually have something going on each day. But we obviously got days where we won't have much of a chance to win a medal, these days are July 27, July 30 and August 1. And August 8 if we get eliminated early in men's water polo.

Do you like... anything? Like, seriously, so many of your comments are negative on this site, to such an extent that you hate even your own nation's team and don't want to see them qualify.