dcro 10,182 Posted December 1, 2019 #81 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Mueller wins again. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,872 Posted December 1, 2019 #82 Share Posted December 1, 2019 and good comeback up to bronze for D-Fisch... no Germans in the top 8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,598 Posted December 1, 2019 #83 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, phelps said: and good comeback up to bronze for D-Fisch... no Germans in the top 8... I'm not surprised. Even Georg Hackl once said Sigulda & Lake Placid are the two worst tracks for German lugers because the start speed isn't that important here. Germans continue to rely on the starts very much for a long time. Paramonovo, the other notoriously tough track for Germans has become extinct since Sochi came on the map. Edited December 1, 2019 by Monzanator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,872 Posted December 1, 2019 #84 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Monzanator said: I'm not surprised. Even Georg Hackl once said Sigulda & Lake Placid are the two worst tracks for German lugers because the start speed isn't that important here. Germans continue to rely on the starts very much for a long time. well, despite that, Loch has done well on Lake Placid's track more than once... but today he made a capital mistake in the first run and wasn't perfect even in the second run, so he did climb some positions, but not as many as he already did in the past... however, yes...LP and Sigulda are the 2 worst tracks for them...because start times are normally not so important (there are quite a few tricky sections that are definitely more important than the starting phase) and also because those are the 2 tracks where they can't train at all during the year... if only it was possible to find a non-German FIL president who cuts the number of races and training weeks in Germany... Edited December 1, 2019 by phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,598 Posted December 1, 2019 #85 Share Posted December 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, phelps said: well, despite that, Loch has done well on Lake Placid's track more than once... but today he made a capital mistake in the first run and wasn't perfect even in the second run, so he did climb some positions, but not as many as he already did in the past... however, yes...LP and Sigulda are the 2 worst tracks for them...because start times are normally not so important (there are quite a few tricky sections that are definitely more important than the starting phase) and also because those are the 2 tracks where they can't train at all during the year... if only it was possible to find a non-German FIL president who cuts the number of races and training weeks in Germany... Let's get real, nobody gives a flying fuck about luge other than Germany. You have to have the facilities to be successful at it and Germany has them. Due to winter games being held in obscure locations lately you can't count on Koreans or Chinese making a run (though it worked in skeleton or even bobsleight a little). Russians are doing much better than in the 90s for instance, Paramonovo, Sochi and Sigulda have helped them a lot. Hell, Latvians building a track in Sigulda was a very good decision but it was easier in a country where there's zero winter sport success or interest outside of ice hockey. Austria & Italy have had success historically but no way luge becomes the new black here. Switzerland ought to do better in luge tbh but it seems like bobsleigh is their main focus again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted December 1, 2019 #86 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Lots of crashes today. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted December 1, 2019 #87 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Monzanator said: Let's get real, nobody gives a flying fuck about luge other than Germany. You have to have the facilities to be successful at it and Germany has them. Due to winter games being held in obscure locations lately you can't count on Koreans or Chinese making a run (though it worked in skeleton or even bobsleight a little). Russians are doing much better than in the 90s for instance, Paramonovo, Sochi and Sigulda have helped them a lot. Hell, Latvians building a track in Sigulda was a very good decision but it was easier in a country where there's zero winter sport success or interest outside of ice hockey. Austria & Italy have had success historically but no way luge becomes the new black here. Switzerland ought to do better in luge tbh but it seems like bobsleigh is their main focus again and again. Austria is definitely growing in luge. Right now they have much more depth in men's events than Germans. Hell, they are even building a second home track. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,560 Posted December 1, 2019 #88 Share Posted December 1, 2019 John Morgan commentating today instead of Tim Singer. Obviously we know him from skeleton and bobsled, but personally I didn't know he made his commentating debut at the 1981 world championships....at the race where his brother - driving one of the American sleds - broke his neck and died in a crash If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted December 1, 2019 #89 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, heywoodu said: John Morgan commentating today instead of Tim Singer. Obviously we know him from skeleton and bobsled, but personally I didn't know he made his commentating debut at the 1981 world championships....at the race where his brother - driving one of the American sleds - broke his neck and died in a crash Surprised you didn't know that before. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,560 Posted December 1, 2019 #90 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Just now, dcro said: Surprised you didn't know that before. It sounded vaguely familiar, but not very Any word on where Tim Singer went today? I mean, I was expecting four guys to jump on that luge sled when I heard John Morgan Edited December 1, 2019 by heywoodu Olympian1010 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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