Volleyball 2016 Discussion Thread

[dareza 911]

Serbia women's volleyball team ahead of Brazil and Russia in world ranking only China and USA are better than Serbia.

 

Men;s team only 9. But expected, they were very bad last year.

[VolleyRuller96 264]

1 hour ago, dareza said:

groups are disaster. From group B, four team can win a medal. Maybe only Belarus and Hungary are not that good.

Well, its FIVB/CEV. They always do stuff like that, even in World Championship/ Olympic Games .  Instead of standard group draw, they prefer the stupid and outdated serpentine system, which is elementaly flawed - most of the time we have one good group and one weaker group, like in RIO, and then when it comes to decisive matches like quarterfinala the teams from the weaker group are doomed . In this years' olympic games in men's volley we had 4 teams from each group in QF, but only 1 team (Russia) from the weak group A and 3 from the better group B in semifinal. Also the World Rankings are so badly maintained I can't even say... After Euro Championships 2015 Slovenia advanced to 25th place in the WR. then the next edition comes out after this years edition of World League, and Slovenia suddenly drops to 29th place. The strange thing was that according to the official rankings they did not drop, they advanced a few places. So it seems like the ranking is either fundamentally flawed too, or the person respinsible for it can't count

[VolleyRuller96 264]

Poor They had a huge chance to advance to the semifinal here at the Junior Euro, but lost after tie-break 2:3 against Still it is possible, but Belgium is now ranked 2nd in the group and has to win against 5th France which only defeated Croatia while Slovakia has to win against much better Bulgaria.

[dareza 911]

4x in a row Serbia in sf at U19

[Gianlu33 4,573]

Bye bye semifinals  We played very bad whit Belarus and we losed too many match  

[VolleyRuller96 264]

Well, the group phase of junior women's euro is over now. The top 2 teams from each group and semifinalists are  
Meanwhile the third ( and )and fourth (and )placed teams will play in 5th to 8th semifinal.  

 

The 5th to 8th semifinals are vs and   vs
Meanwhile The Medal semifinals are vs and vs .
 

 

 

[dareza 911]

And Serbia in final

 

2010. silver

2012. silver

2014. gold

2016. at least silver.

 

 

4 great generations in a row and Katarina Lazovic Katarina and Tijana Boskovic will be unstoppable for few years ( Tijana is now almost unstoppable )

[VolleyRuller96 264]

Wow, Ukraine actually plays really good at the men's junior euro - they beat Bulgaria 3:2 and now Slovenia 3:0 

[Майкл 561]

On 8/31/2016 at 13:53, Federer91 said:

New world rankings are out after Rio. So they are now not counting the continental championships, but continue that idiotic World Cup?! FIVBs rankings are going the way as FIFAs rankings, as being completely pointless. But the worse part is that FIVB uses them for many draws, tournaments, shenanigans..

 

World Cup is arguably the strongest volleyball competition. 90% of the world's best teams are always there and everyone plays against each other...  

Edited September 5, 2016 by Майкл

[VolleyRuller96 264]

3 hours ago, Майкл said:

 

World Cup is arguably the strongest volleyball competition. 90% of the world's best teams are always there and everyone plays against each other...  

It's not arguable, it's a fact  you can just look at the rules to see that it is much more important than World Championships, because

1. Unlike the World championships it offers an olympic place

2. There is a smaller group of better nations, so the level of competition is higher

3. To qualify to world cup, you have to either win World championship ( so the championships are basically a qualification event to the world cup ) or be in the top 2 teams in continental championship.

4. To win it or just qualify to Olympics, you have to be in good shape for the whole tournament and possibly win all the matches ( polish men's team learned it the hard way last year)

What irritates me the most is that it always gets hosted by Japan, so it kind of  makes their way to the OG much easier then the other teams. Not to mention that this year Japan also hosted the World Qualification Tournaments, which meant they only had to win like 4 matches in the WQT to go to Rio, while the Polish team for example has had to play more then 20 games. Talk about fair rules... 

 

Edited September 5, 2016 by VolleyRuller96