[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Monzanator 4,453]

11 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I’m pretty sure there’s still plenty of NAZIs in the U.S. I mean, hell, we put one in the White House.

Israel and Russia would probably disagree with you though. I'm pretty sure these two countries are happy that you elected Trump over Clinton

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4 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Israel and Russia would probably disagree with you though. I'm pretty sure these two countries are happy that you elected Trump over Clinton

Yes, because those are the governments we should really be aiming to impress and model ourselves after. Both with corrupt leaders that have mercilessly killed people. A great example for our nation.

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4 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Yes, because those are the governments we should really be aiming to impress and model ourselves after. Both with corrupt leaders that have mercilessly killed people. A great example for our nation.

Well, Israel is your safest base in the Middle East. They serve a huge purpose regardless of who's in the White House. As for Russia, well, Trump is a businessman, not a politician. He always does business before doing politics. He fights the economical war with China, not with Russia. China broke away from the Soviet leash in the mid-60s. Historically USA hasn't made the most of that split due to old sins from the Korean War and the Vietnam fiasco.

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1 minute ago, Monzanator said:

Well, Israel is your safest base in the Middle East. They serve a huge purpose regardless of who's in the White House. As for Russia, well, Trump is a businessman, not a politician. He always does business before doing politics. He fights the economical war with China, not with Russia. China broke away from the Soviet leash in the mid-60s. Historically USA hasn't made the most of that split due to old sins from the Korean War and the Vietnam fiasco.

This literally has nothing to do with the issues at hand, so I’m not going to respond other than “We should look to appeal to Israel or Russia.”

[heywoodu 14,870]

Jeez, this thread escalated to personal Gestapo-attacks faster than Minneapolis did to riots.

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Just now, Olympian1010 said:

This literally has nothing to do with the issues at hand, so I’m not going to respond other than “We should look to appeal to Israel or Russia.”

 

But that's the whole point! Appeasing Israel serves a greater purpose. Netanyahu should have been kicked out long time ago but USA has to have a solid base in the Middle East. If not Israel then where? You lost Iran in 1979, you had Iraq & Afghanistan burn down in flames during the War on Terror, Turkey is run by another hard-nosed guy and of course there's Saudi Arabia which nobody calls a democracy? There's a civil war in Yemen and UAE and Qatar are doing mighty fine without serving as US puppets. That's a big stakes geopolitics which is played out over decades and more important than current issues whether Israel supported Trump over Clinton.

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2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Jeez, this thread escalated to personal Gestapo-attacks faster than Minneapolis did to riots.

 

Guess who first used the 'G' word? Our lovely friend from USA   I suppose you guys in the Netherlands still remember Arthur Seyss-Inquart just as we in Poland remember Hans Frank?

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19 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

This literally has nothing to do with the issues at hand, so I’m not going to respond other than “We should look to appeal to Israel or Russia.”

Fuck, realized I forgot the “not” in that statement.

[Olympian1010 7,919]

15 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

But that's the whole point! Appeasing Israel serves a greater purpose. Netanyahu should have been kicked out long time ago but USA has to have a solid base in the Middle East. If not Israel then where? You lost Iran in 1979, you had Iraq & Afghanistan burn down in flames during the War on Terror, Turkey is run by another hard-nosed guy and of course there's Saudi Arabia which nobody calls a democracy? There's a civil war in Yemen and UAE and Qatar are doing mighty fine without serving as US puppets. That's a big stakes geopolitics which is played out over decades and more important than current issues whether Israel supported Trump over Clinton.

No, we should never aim to appease Israel. 

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17 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Jeez, this thread escalated to personal Gestapo-attacks faster than Minneapolis did to riots.

You could almost say “it went up in flames”