Men's Volleyball FIVB World Championship 2025

[phelps 8,278]

1 hour ago, copravolley said:

Italy is complete out of form here. Their peak form was clearly in the VNL, where we lost 3-0 to a not a strongest Poland in the final. However, losing 3-0 to Belgium is unacceptable. As of now, I don't see that we getting out of the group. In the 21st century, we've never finished outside the top 16. But perhaps it's better to suffer such a disgrace and finally get kick of de Giorgi than to remain in this stagnation. It was the same two years ago with Mazzanti. Italy won't achieve anything significant under de Giorgi.

 

Whether we lose 0-3 or 2-3 today doesn't matter, because the match against Ukraine will be a decider anyway. And I don't see us winning 3-2 today from 0-2.

[phelps 8,278]

7 minutes ago, hoversaBR said:

I think I've said a lot about how much I dislike Italian opposites, but I still don't understand why Rychlicki was naturalized.

well, he got the Italian passport in any case because he's married to an Italian woman (and because of the rules on the foreign players in club competitions, this would help him and the clubs where he plays)

 

being called up by the NT, instead, it's a completely different thing and you have to ask De Giorgi why?

[copravolley 498]

2 minutes ago, phelps said:

well, he got the Italian passport in any case because he's married to an Italian woman (and because of the rules on the foreign players in club competitions, this would help him and the clubs where he plays)

 

being called up by the NT, instead, it's a completely different thing and you have to ask De Giorgi why?

Bovolenta was at Reggers' level at 2-3 years ago and where are they now? Michieletto isn't playing like a leader in this squad either. He was supposed to be the best volleyball player in Europe for years, but the younger Reggers crushed him today. And you can't blame Lavia's injury on everything, because he hasn't been in good form for two years.

[hoversaBR 613]

2 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Okay, but considering how many junior medals we've won over the years, we've looked terrible. Not making it to the last 16 in such a niche sport, where Russia isn't even there yet, is a disgrace. Michieletti looks like a loser next to Reggers, even though we crushed Belgium in the juniors with Reggers in the squad. I don't know if just sacking de Giorgi will solve everything.

Medals in junior are important, but they are not everything. 

 

Italy is not going to destroy everyone in senior just because it has the best young players. 

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2 minutes ago, hoversaBR said:

Medals in junior are important, but they are not everything. 

 

Italy is not going to destroy everyone in senior just because it has the best young players. 

Defeats against Belgium, Ukraine etc., are unacceptable: you can lose against Poland or France, but not more.

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5 minutes ago, phelps said:

well, he got the Italian passport in any case because he's married to an Italian woman (and because of the rules on the foreign players in club competitions, this would help him and the clubs where he plays)

 

being called up by the NT, instead, it's a completely different thing and you have to ask De Giorgi why?

I think he adds little to the Italian team. I really liked Bovolenta, I think De Giorgi should have been a little more insistent with him.

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The only positive from this is that Fefe will leave after a defeat to Ukraine or in the Round of 16. This team last played a good match two years ago in a important match.

[copravolley 498]

Just now, hoversaBR said:

I think he adds little to the Italian team. I really liked Bovolenta, I think De Giorgi should have been a little more insistent with him.

Bovolenta hasn't played for the club because Romano has been playing in Piacenza and he's average. Reggers and Nikolov are starting players, and that's the problem. Michieletto has also been playing poorly for the national team for several years.

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Italy has one good team in team sports: the women's NT in volley, which miraculously won gold this year. The rest are bad. If volleyball man will eliminated in the group here, it will be the wrost results for us in 40-50 years? 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 16 by copravolley

[copravolley 498]

In my opinion, de Giorgi was getting ready the top form for the VNL, just as Lavarini was for the Polish NT women in this season. He knew that against France would probably lose in the quarterfinals. However, failing to advance from the group or even being eliminated in the round of 16 would be a disaster for us. Lavarini, at least with the Polish women, never drops below a certain level.

 

What more can be said about Italy's NT overall? De Giorgi's time is over. This reminds me of Berrutto's end for us 10 years ago, but 1 season later Juantorena joined for u, and we returned to the top in 2015/2016. Now, with such players at OPP position, it's going to be tough, so either they naturalize Keita (the only sensible option, as Rychlicki is a second Romano) or we have to hope on Bovolenta's rapid development. There's definitely no sense in signing players like Rychlicki; it's better to play Bovolenta, who is young and has the potential to develop in the future.

Edited September 16 by copravolley