Athletics EAA European Championships 2024

[Epic Failure 356]

  On 6/2/2024 at 11:29 AM, Belle said:

Yes it is. And France put in Mayer instead. He isn’t even qualified. 

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In fairness, at least Mayer was just added to the field. Nobody has really lost out there.

 

The heptathlon issue is far worse, because of the knock on effect on Sweden and Austria. Not to mention the French athletes who've missed out because their own federation is incompetent.

 

Just a mess all round.

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Meyer shouldn’t be there. Everybody has to qualify so don’t see a reason why he should be exempted. 
 

beside that he could try achieving the norm somewhere else, eg in Ratingen 

[Belle 986]

  On 6/2/2024 at 11:34 AM, Epic Failure said:

In fairness, at least Mayer was just added to the field. Nobody has really lost out there.

 

The heptathlon issue is far worse, because of the knock on effect on Sweden and Austria. Not to mention the French athletes who've missed out because their own federation is incompetent.

 

Just a mess all round.

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But it’s worse. They added a non-qualified guy instead for two qualified girls in the heptathlon. So now there’s 25 men and only 22 women. Why not put the two French women in heptathlon instead? Sorry here in Sweden we are mad on Mayer participation too. As much for the Swedish and Austrian ladies. 

[Epic Failure 356]

Again, I've no problem with adding Mayer on his own. Yes, he probably shouldn't be there. Yes, it is sentimental and they are trying to do a favour to him/the Olympics. 

 

If he were taking the spot of someone else, I'd think it was terribly unjustified. But nobody really loses for him being there.

 

But the fact of the matter is that they aren't going to put the heptathletes in - whether the French, Swedish or Austrian - if Mayer isn't there. There would just be 24 men and 22 women. Everyone is losing there and that's not going to change whether Mayer is there or not.

[Belle 986]

  On 6/2/2024 at 12:19 PM, Epic Failure said:

Again, I've no problem with adding Mayer on his own. Yes, he probably shouldn't be there. Yes, it is sentimental and they are trying to do a favour to him/the Olympics. 

 

If he were taking the spot of someone else, I'd think it was terribly unjustified. But nobody really loses for him being there.

 

But the fact of the matter is that they aren't going to put the heptathletes in - whether the French, Swedish or Austrian - if Mayer isn't there. There would just be 24 men and 22 women. Everyone is losing there and that's not going to change whether Mayer is there or not.

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The broke the rules for Mayer but are very hard with the rules for the heptathlon and you don’t see any problem with this? Seriously? 

[heywoodu 15,355]

  On 6/2/2024 at 11:08 AM, Epic Failure said:

I imagine it is something to do with the heptathlon entries debacle.

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For those not in the loop: what about the heptathlon entries debacle?

 

Edit: something with Sweden and Austria, I guess.

Edited June 2, 2024 by heywoodu

[Noorderling29 170]

  On 6/2/2024 at 12:19 PM, Epic Failure said:

Again, I've no problem with adding Mayer on his own. Yes, he probably shouldn't be there. Yes, it is sentimental and they are trying to do a favour to him/the Olympics. 

 

If he were taking the spot of someone else, I'd think it was terribly unjustified. But nobody really loses for him being there.

 

But the fact of the matter is that they aren't going to put the heptathletes in - whether the French, Swedish or Austrian - if Mayer isn't there. There would just be 24 men and 22 women. Everyone is losing there and that's not going to change whether Mayer is there or not.

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If Mayer manages to qualify, someone else will not. It he wins a medal, someone else will not. He may push someone down a place in the standings, who could have used the extra points that the higher position would be bring to strengthen his world ranking. So not a victimless crime.

 

Also, why limit it to Rome and why not add him to the Olympic lineup as well.

[Noorderling29 170]

  On 6/2/2024 at 12:27 PM, heywoodu said:

For those not in the loop: what about the heptathlon entries debacle?

 

Edit: something with Sweden and Austria, I guess.

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Yes, because France were too late withdrawing two qualified athletes, EAA will not nominate the next to two athletes in the ranking, from Sweden and Austria, to take their place. So only 22 participants. 

[heywoodu 15,355]

  On 6/2/2024 at 12:31 PM, Noorderling29 said:

Yes, because France were too late withdrawing two qualified athletes, EAA will not nominate the next to two athletes in the ranking, from Sweden and Austria, to take their place. So only 22 participants. 

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Well, that is shitty from EAA indeed.

 

Just as stupid as in biathlon, where athletes who decide not to start in the pursuit (top-60 of the sprint) are never replaced by whoever finished 61st, 62nd etc.

[Epic Failure 356]

  On 6/2/2024 at 12:25 PM, Belle said:

The broke the rules for Mayer but are very hard with the rules for the heptathlon and you don’t see any problem with this? Seriously? 

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I have no problem with the Mayer decision. I have a big problem with the other decision. I'm just viewing them as separate issues.

 

If the result of Mayer not going would be that the hept field would be the full 24, I would support that. But we both know that won't be the case.