AIN athletes qualification for Paris 2024 Olympic Games and reallocation of quotas [post#1 updated 15.07]

[avlar 372]

5 hours ago, Jan Linha said:

I suppose weightlifting+102kg might go to Kamil Kučera because has already chose 3 male athletes in other categories..... 

You are right. I suppose even if  is allowed to change selection they will not do this

[NearPup 3,072]

5 hours ago, rybak said:

I know that she isn't either rus or blr athlete but how big are chances that  Vera Tugolukova will be excluded too?

Why would she be excluded?

 

I don't believe there is any mechanism for the IOC to deny participation of an athlete with a or passport that is competing for another country (short of denying the change of sporting citizenship, obv)

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4 hours ago, rybak said:

I know that she isn't either rus or blr athlete but how big are chances that  Vera Tugolukova will be excluded too?

You right, it is another case bit indirectly recent IOC decisions indicate some major shift which may be important to that case too.

 

For a long time it looked like the IOC expected the war to be finished soon and kept door open for the quick russia reinstatement for the Games-2024. Now this quick finish does not look so real.

 

The IOC was threatened by the alternative games in russia. But this week they saw an absolute catastrophy of the BRICS games in russia. The level of competition and international presence are so low (sometimes not enough athletes to award bronze) that they avoided of publishing protocols and real number of participated states. As a result Friendship games expected in september can be postponed for a year. The IOC is strong enough now.

 

But at the same time we see that the IOC just evaluates entries sent by the IF`s (by now). So at the first step it is important to do all the best to solve Tugolukova`s case at the level of the IF.

 

And the most important: the list of athletes expected to be excluded published in the 1 and 2 posts of the topic now looks much more serious now. We know that IOC really does not invite to the games war-supporters. So everyone can join the process and try to find evidences to allow his/her favorite atheletes to get quotas instead of AINs. Those who are allowed to compete are not safe - and I think some of them will be out too.

[mard0n 14]

Wouldn't the distribution of quotas in Taekwondo be based on the Olympic rankings?

 

Logically, the quota should go to Uzbekistan?

 

Taekwondo +80kg from AIN to UZB (Rafalovich Nikita)

[phelps 7,706]

12 hours ago, avlar said:

So, we have a list of reallocations for AINs frpm belarus

 

Short notes from the IOC statement:

 

1. Decisions to reject quotas are final.

2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation.

3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not

4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs).

 

Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet.
Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC (not AIN) according to the IOC decision.

The most probable reallocation is mentioned in the table.

 

russians are on separate post (updated!) - some more potentially good news at that post - @copravolley @rafalgorka @zob79 @phelps

 

 

 

belorussians:  

Sports	Athlete(s)	Discipline	Possible Reallocation	NOC	IOC Decision
Cycling	Hanna TSERAKH	Road			AIN - Hanna TSERAKH
Trampoline	Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA	Women's			AIN - Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA
Trampoline	Ivan LITVINOVICH	Men's			AIN - Ivan LITVINOVICH
Taekwondo	Georgi Gurtsiev	58 kg	Lev Korneev		Reallocation to another NOC
Weightlifting	Siuzanna VALODZKA	W71kg	MIRABAL FERIA Yeniuska		AIN - Siuzanna VALODZKA
Weightlifting	Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU	M102kg	DEHDAR Reza		AIN - Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU
Weightlifting	ASAYONAK Petr	M89kg	SANTAVY Boady Robert		Reallocation to another NOC
Weightlifting	ZIAZIULIN Eduard	M102+kg	JO Seongbin		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling	Aryan Tsiutryn	Men's freestyle 57 kg	Vladimir EGOROV		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling	Mahamedkhabib Kadzimahamedau	Men's freestyle 74 kg	Miroslav Stefanov KIROV		AIN - Yahor AKULICH
Wrestling	Aliaksandr Hushtyn	Men's freestyle 97 kg	Illia ARCHAIA		AIN - Uladzislau KAZLOU
Wrestling	Dzianis Khramiankou	Men's freestyle 125 kg	Kamil Tomasz KOSCIOLEK		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling	Kiryl Maskevich	Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg	Lasha GOBADZE		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling	Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU	Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg	Mihail KAJAIA		AIN - Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU
Wrestling	Pavel Hlinchuk	Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg	Mantas KNYSTAUTAS		AIN - Dzmitri ZARUBSKI
Wrestling	Vanesa Kaladzinskaya	Women's freestyle 53 kg	Maria Prevolaraki		AIN - Viyaleta REBIKAVA
Wrestling	Iryna Kurachkina	Women's freestyle 57 kg	Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA		Reallocation to another NOC
Wrestling	Veranika Ivanova	Women's freestyle 62 kg	Johanna LINDBORG		AIN - Krystsina SAZYKINA

in the men's +102kg (weightlifting) it should be  Kamil Kucera, since  have already selected 3 different weights

 

sorry, I didn't see that it was already noticed

Edited June 16 by phelps

[phelps 7,706]

27 minutes ago, mard0n said:

Wouldn't the distribution of quotas in Taekwondo be based on the Olympic rankings?

 

Logically, the quota should go to Uzbekistan?

 

Taekwondo +80kg from AIN to UZB (Rafalovich Nikita)

  already have 2 qualified athletes among the men, so Rafalovich is not eligible in any case

Edited June 16 by phelps

[Faramir 367]

17 hours ago, avlar said:

Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo

I get why people think it will be reallocated to Chamizo (WCh quota to AZE and then European quota to ITA), but after reading a bit I think it will simply go to the Chinese, as the highest ranked at the WCh who is not yet qualified. The wording imo is quite clear and the same that was used for 2020(1), where for example the reallocation in women's 62kg went directly to ROU (and not to USA who had later won a PanAmerican quota, and thus the next best PanAm wrestler).

 

 

 

Edited June 16 by Faramir

[avlar 372]

11 minutes ago, Faramir said:

I get why people think it will be reallocated to Chamizo (WCh quota to AZE and then European quota to ITA), but after reading a bit I think it will simply go to the Chinese, as the highest ranked at the WCh who is not yet qualified. The wording imo is quite clear and the same that was used for 2020(1), where for example the reallocation in women's 62kg went directly to ROU (and not to USA who had later won a PanAmerican quota, and thus the next best PanAm wrestler).

 

 

 

If we have a precednt from 2021 it is a bad news for  twice because you can get 2 quotas (Liuzzi and Chamizo) or nothing.

 

I saw that way of reallocation (and it even gives Ukraine one more quota as @Art Art mentioned), but I am not sure what UWW will decide. Before your post I would say my way of reallocation was more natural. But precedent makes your way more real.

 

At the same time, Italian wrestling federation has to find good lawyers to fight for these quotas, since even commas in the text can be crucial.

(We had a fantastic example from Ukrainian football championship when bronze medals and place at the UEFA Cup were decided by the lawyers of the club which used a single word in the regulations).

 

I will update lists with alternative re-allocation variant.

[avlar 372]

2 hours ago, mard0n said:

Wouldn't the distribution of quotas in Taekwondo be based on the Olympic rankings?

 

Logically, the quota should go to Uzbekistan?

 

Taekwondo +80kg from AIN to UZB (Rafalovich Nikita)

Thank you. But I am still not sure about that reallocation, so leaved question mark there.

[mard0n 14]

2 hours ago, phelps said:

  already have 2 qualified athletes among the men, so Rafalovich is not eligible in any case

How maximum 2 quota places through Continental Qualification rule work here? In the qualification system there is no clear definition of the maximum quotas possible to receive through reallocation. Only indicating 4 maximum per NOC. Or I'm wrong?