Wrestling at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

[DaniSRB 899]

5 minutes ago, MHSN said:

 

Nothing, wrestling world ranking is a joke, someone just sits and determines this ranking , there is no criteria about it.

 

there will be no seeding in wrestling only 2015 world finalists will be separated and will have a bye in 1st round. they wll use blind draw for the rest.

that's terrible......2 big favourites can basicly fight in first round

[MHSN 3,813]

8 minutes ago, DaniSRB said:

that's terrible......2 big favourites can basicly fight in first round

 

of course it happens always in wrestling, 4 years ago in London we had unbelievably unbalanced draw at 66 and 85 freestyle which helped some wrestlers winning undeserved medals.

 

actually this is the first time they are using some kind of seeding system. that's good for the start

 

but if they want to have a proper ranking like Judo and Taekwondo they have to make top wrestlers to compete in more than 1-2 events per year which is not possible at the moment since everybody cuts a lot of weight. (at least 6-7 kilos) that will be revolutionary change in wrestling . Lalovic once said he is thinking about such an idea to force wrestlers to not cut weight.

[Dolby 757]

6 minutes ago, MHSN said:

but if they want to have a proper ranking like Judo and Taekwondo they have to make top wrestlers to compete in more than 1-2 events per year which is not possible at the moment since everybody cuts a lot of weight. (at least 6-7 kilos) that will be revolutionary change in wrestling . Lalovic once said he is thinking about such an idea to force wrestlers to not cut weight.

I think another issue would be regarding nations with huge bench strength. For example, Iran may send 3 different wrestlers in same weight category to World Championships, Asian Championships and World Cup. All 3 wrestlers might perform really well, but still all 3 might be ranked below a wrestler who participates in all 3 events and does only okay. 

[MantaRaymarc 132]

20 hours ago, MHSN said:

UWW website has the name of all registered wrestlers , there are some interesting changes comparing to what we had/expected

 

57kg:

Yang Kyong-il instead of Jong for PRK !!! Yang was retired as far as I knew but apparently he is back !

Kazakhstan also registered a new name Nurislam SANAYEV instead of Sanaa. but after a bit of research apparently he is the same person just with a new name ! lol after all he is originally from Russia

USA is sending Daniel Dennis who won their trials over Ramos, Haji Aliyev is also there as expected

 

65kg

only Iran and Turkey are changing their wrestlers, we already knew that, Mustafa Kaya in place of Yakup Gor and Meisam Nassiri instead of our injured gold medal hope Ahmad Mohammadi

 

74kg

no change at all but India has to change Yadav because of doping.

oops, I forgot we changed our wrestler here, Yazdani junior in place of Ghasemi.

 

86kg

the only change is Sharifov in place of Khatiyev but we already knew that !

 

97kg

Iran, Russia and Ukraine are sending new wrestlers but again we knew that

 

125kg

no change, the only question was about Ukraine, and they decided to send Zaseyev over Khotsianovski, both of those guys won the quota if you remember !

 

59kg:

wow ! Korea is sending a new name Lee Jung-baik ! what happened to that Kim guy who threw everybody at the worlds qualifiers ?!!!

Russia is also sending Maryanyan and not Labazanov despite all news we heard. Mingiyan Semenov (but with his twin brother's name) won the quota for Russia

 

66kg

only Russia had a change here, Albiev instead of Surkov, we knew that

 

75kg

no change

 

85kg

Chakvetadze instead of Mishin as expected but Egypt also registered a new name apparently, even though I'm not sure . Arabic names are confusing sometimes.

 

98kg

interestingly Belarus registered two names here, Hrabovik and Dzienichenka !

and Hungary also registered the veteran Balasz Kiss instead of Varga who won the quota.

 

130kg

few expected changes, Brazil is using their naturalized Armenian guy instead of poor Jaoude. Iran and Russia made a change here, Semenov and Babajanzadeh.

Where did you find these entries?

[MantaRaymarc 132]

1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

I didn't know they were allowed to do that at the Olympics..it's like a reserve so that they can still choose who'll actually fight?

Yup. According to NOC in Belarus, they selected Dzeinichenka over Hrabovik.

[MHSN 3,813]

6 minutes ago, MantaRaymarc said:

Where did you find these entries?

 

here

https://unitedworldwrestling.org/event/olympic-games

 

click on Results and Videos and then Participants for each weight

[MantaRaymarc 132]

Just now, MHSN said:

 

here

https://unitedworldwrestling.org/event/olympic-games

 

click on Results and Videos and then Participants for each weight

I think it's found in the Arena section. The participants list has not displayed as of this moment.

[heywoodu 16,456]

1 minute ago, MantaRaymarc said:

I think it's found in the Arena section. The participants list has not displayed as of this moment.

It is, you just have to click on the word "Participants"

 

[MHSN 3,813]

14 minutes ago, Dolby said:

I think another issue would be regarding nations with huge bench strength. For example, Iran may send 3 different wrestlers in same weight category to World Championships, Asian Championships and World Cup. All 3 wrestlers might perform really well, but still all 3 might be ranked below a wrestler who participates in all 3 events and does only okay. 

 

That's the problem because we have only 1 major event a year, some countries take continental championships serious, in Asia, most countries don't.

for having a proper ranking, we should have some Grand Prix events, when all top wrestlers come and participate. which is not possible at the moment for the reason I already explained, they cut weight a lot. the only solution is having the weight-in 1-2 hours before the competition forcing them to not cut weight. at the moment when for example you watch a 65kg match, both wrestlers are actually 71-72 kilos at least ! because they had the weight-in one day before the competition.

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