Fencing FIE World Cup 2023 - 2024

[Makedonas 2,200]

  On 3/3/2024 at 2:21 PM, Cobi said:

I just did the maths and I think Gkountoura already secured the Greek spot, even if she loses in the round of 64 and Gkountoura takes the gold medal. Currently Georgiadou has 148 points instead of 154 and Gkountoura 174.

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Georgiadou really deserves to go to the Olympics, she was incredible during this Olympic cycle, winning medals at both World Championships that took place as well as other big events. So, so sad 

[Federer91 2,903]

  On 3/3/2024 at 1:46 PM, Cobi said:

Unless I'm missing something,  is safe to get the Asian quota,  the European,  the American and  the African, so the only chance of having the Repechage quota between  is if  misses the Top 16, and that does not seem very likely at the moment.

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Looks like my math was wrong and i was prematurely celebrating  The other thing could be Korea out of top 4. 

 

Do you know what is the difference between Korea and Italy and if they could fall out of top 4? And vice-versa between Italy and Bulgaria and do we have a chance to pass them? And i know the worse result should be excluded from the final score, but what are they for these teams?

Edited March 3, 2024 by Federer91

[Robertino 163]

Bulgaria needs to win last WC to overtake Italy. If Italy is 5th, Bulgaria can't overtake even if wins in Sint Niklaas.

 

[Cobi 987]

  On 3/3/2024 at 2:49 PM, Federer91 said:

Looks like my math was wrong and i was prematurely celebrating  The other thing could be Korea out of top 4. 

 

Do you know what is the difference between Korea and Italy and if they could fall out of top 4? And vice-versa between Italy and Bulgaria and do we have a chance to pass them? And i know the worse result should be excluded from the final score, but what are they for these teams?

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Yes, you can still pass Italy, but it's difficult. You need gold and  6th place or worse

[phelps 7,847]

  On 3/3/2024 at 1:46 PM, Cobi said:

Unless I'm missing something,  is safe to get the Asian quota,  the European,  the American and  the African, so the only chance of having the Repechage quota between  is if  misses the Top 16, and that does not seem very likely at the moment.

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yes, you're right 

 

I completely removed the fact that now there's a Pan-Am qualifier (), so, there's no place for the repechage spot 

 

unless, as you wrote,  drops out of the Top 16 (unlikely, but mathematically still possible if they don't make the top 16 in the last OQT: at that point,  making the Top 16 and  finishing at least 14th would kill 's dream of going to Paris)

 

however,  still have a marginal chance to overtake : they need to win the last OQT and hope that  end up 8th or worse

[avlar 372]

  On 3/3/2024 at 2:33 PM, Cobi said:

It is finished for . You are already qualified, congrats!

 

That also means that Martín-Portugués  and Gkountoura  secure the individual spots, even though  still has a very small chance to qualify as a team.

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Thank you, but I afraid we are still not there ((

We had very bad result at the European Games, thus our really worst result (25 points) in non-doscardable ((

[phelps 7,847]

  On 3/3/2024 at 2:07 PM, avlar said:

Am I right: Continental championships are not discardable?

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correct, World and Continental Champs scores are not discardable

Edited March 3, 2024 by phelps

[Robertino 163]

Ranking con tutti i risultati				Ranking senza il peggior risultato				Scarti potenziali
#	Sciabola femminile	Totale		#	Sciabola femminile	Totale		#	Sciabola femminile	Scarto
1	FRANCIA	373		1	FRANCIA	348		1	FRANCIA	25
2	UNGHERIA	304		2	UNGHERIA	276		2	UNGHERIA	28
3	COREA DEL SUD	291		3	COREA DEL SUD	270		3	COREA DEL SUD	21
4	UCRAINA	281		4	UCRAINA	249		4	UCRAINA	32
5	USA	258		5	USA	232		5	USA	26
6	ITALIA	250		6	ITALIA	224		6	ITALIA	26
7	BULGARIA	212		7	BULGARIA	190		7	BULGARIA	22
8	GIAPPONE	206		8	GIAPPONE	185		8	GIAPPONE	21
9	SPAGNA	197		9	SPAGNA	174		9	SPAGNA	23
10	AZERBAIGIAN	194		10	AZERBAIGIAN	170		10	AZERBAIGIAN	24
11	CINA	175		11	CINA	156		11	CINA	19
12	POLONIA	156		12	GRECIA	142		12	GRECIA	0
13	GERMANIA	147		13	GERMANIA	139		13	GERMANIA	8
14	GRECIA	142		14	POLONIA	126		14	POLONIA	20
15	ALGERIA	134		15	ALGERIA	126		15	ALGERIA	8
16	HONG KONG CINA	123		16	MESSICO	121		16	MESSICO	0

[Cobi 987]

  On 3/3/2024 at 2:55 PM, phelps said:

yes, you're right 

 

I completely removed the fact that now there's a Pan-Am qualifier (), so, there's no place for the repechage spot 

 

unless, as you wrote,  drops out of the Top 16 (unlikely, but mathematically still possible if they don't make the top 16 in the last OQT: at that point,  making the Top 16 and  finishing at least 14th would kill 's dream of going to Paris)

 

however,  still have a marginal chance to overtake : they need to win the last OQT and hope that  end up 8th or worse

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I think there is another very unlikely scenario in which  takes the gold medal,  silver and  and  loss their first match. If this happens,  drops out of top4 and takes the Asian spot,  does not make it to Top16 and can't take the Pan-Am spot and we would have a repechage spot between . But as I said, very difficult to happen.

 

@Federer91 Unfortunately, I think the situation is not easy for  because there is no way  finishes ahead of .

[phelps 7,847]

  On 3/3/2024 at 2:49 PM, Federer91 said:

Looks like my math was wrong and i was prematurely celebrating  The other thing could be Korea out of top 4. 

 

Do you know what is the difference between Korea and Italy and if they could fall out of top 4? And vice-versa between Italy and Bulgaria and do we have a chance to pass them? And i know the worse result should be excluded from the final score, but what are they for these teams?

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the best chance for  is  to drop out of the top 16, I fear

 

there's only a small (almost impossible) theoretical chance to overtake  but I wouldn't count on that

 

 are safe in the top 4, actually  are mathematically qualified to the Olympic Games

 

 still have to defend a 31-point margin over  for the Asian spot (if  win the last OQT, then  need at least the 9th place...and a win is the only option for  to keep their hope alive)