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Ranking con scarti   Ranking senza scarti
# Sciabola maschile Totale   # Sciabola maschile Totale
1 UNGHERIA 316   1 COREA DEL SUD 284
2 COREA DEL SUD 309   2 UNGHERIA 280
3 USA 300   3 USA 260
4 FRANCIA 222   4 FRANCIA 200
5 ITALIA 220   5 ITALIA 188
6 IRAN 191   6 IRAN 168
7 GERMANIA 187   7 GERMANIA 162
8 EGITTO 179   8 EGITTO 158
9 GIAPPONE 172   9 GIAPPONE 148
10 CINA 161   10 CANADA 144
11 ROMANIA 154   11 CINA 141
12 CANADA 152   12 ROMANIA 135
13 GEORGIA 139   13 GEORGIA 120
14 SPAGNA 132   14 SPAGNA 114
15 TURCHIA 124   15 UCRAINA 112
16 UCRAINA 120   16 TURCHIA 105
             
Ranking con scarti   Ranking senza scarti
# Sciabola femminile Totale   # Sciabola femminile Totale
1 FRANCIA 309   1 FRANCIA 284
2 UNGHERIA 276   2 COREA DEL SUD 248
3 COREA DEL SUD 269   3 UNGHERIA 238
4 USA 232   4 USA 202
5 UCRAINA 229   5 UCRAINA 197
6 ITALIA 214   6 ITALIA 188
7 GIAPPONE 185   7 GIAPPONE 160
8 BULGARIA 172   8 BULGARIA 150
9 AZERBAIGIAN 169   9 AZERBAIGIAN 145
10 SPAGNA 167   10 SPAGNA 144
11 CINA 155   11 CINA 136
12 GERMANIA 139   12 GERMANIA 120
13 POLONIA 132   13 GRECIA 120
14 ALGERIA 126   14 ALGERIA 118
15 GRECIA 120   15 POLONIA 112
16 HONG KONG CINA 115   16 MESSICO

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:ITA needs to overtake al least one between :UKR and :USA in women's sabre. I don't think that one between :ALG and :MEX will finish 17th.

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men's Individual Sabre ( Padua)   Gold:  Colin Heathcock Silver:  Luigi Samele Bronze:  Santiago Madrigal &  Ziad Elsissy   Semifinals Heathcock b. Elsissy 15-7

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One last message on the Women`s Sabre World Cup in Athens. One could see that, Ukrainian team weared black mourning armbands.    The reason - russians killed 12 people in their flats

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Men's Team Foil   Current OQR after Today's event   316 Q by Ranking 296 Q by Ranking 282 Q by Ranking 237 Q by Ranking _____________ 232 Q by Continental Q

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6 hours ago, Robertino said:
Ranking con scarti   Ranking senza scarti
# Sciabola maschile Totale   # Sciabola maschile Totale
1 UNGHERIA 316   1 COREA DEL SUD 284
2 COREA DEL SUD 309   2 UNGHERIA 280
3 USA 300   3 USA 260
4 FRANCIA 222   4 FRANCIA 200
5 ITALIA 220   5 ITALIA 188
6 IRAN 191   6 IRAN 168
7 GERMANIA 187   7 GERMANIA 162
8 EGITTO 179   8 EGITTO 158
9 GIAPPONE 172   9 GIAPPONE 148
10 CINA 161   10 CANADA 144
11 ROMANIA 154   11 CINA 141
12 CANADA 152   12 ROMANIA 135
13 GEORGIA 139   13 GEORGIA 120
14 SPAGNA 132   14 SPAGNA 114
15 TURCHIA 124   15 UCRAINA 112
16 UCRAINA 120   16 TURCHIA 105
             
Ranking con scarti   Ranking senza scarti
# Sciabola femminile Totale   # Sciabola femminile Totale
1 FRANCIA 309   1 FRANCIA 284
2 UNGHERIA 276   2 COREA DEL SUD 248
3 COREA DEL SUD 269   3 UNGHERIA 238
4 USA 232   4 USA 202
5 UCRAINA 229   5 UCRAINA 197
6 ITALIA 214   6 ITALIA 188
7 GIAPPONE 185   7 GIAPPONE 160
8 BULGARIA 172   8 BULGARIA 150
9 AZERBAIGIAN 169   9 AZERBAIGIAN 145
10 SPAGNA 167   10 SPAGNA 144
11 CINA 155   11 CINA 136
12 GERMANIA 139   12 GERMANIA 120
13 POLONIA 132   13 GRECIA 120
14 ALGERIA 126   14 ALGERIA 118
15 GRECIA 120   15 POLONIA 112
16 HONG KONG CINA 115   16 MESSICO

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:ITA needs to overtake al least one between :UKR and :USA in women's sabre. I don't think that one between :ALG and :MEX will finish 17th.

It is still highly possible that Ukraine or Italy enters top-4 instead of the USA. Thus the USA will take American quota. Both european teams look much more motivated since US quota is almost sealed.

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men's Individual Epee (:GER Heidenheim)

 

Gold: :JPN Masaru Yamada

Silver: :ITA Enrico Piatti

Bronze: :FRA Paul Allegre & :ITA Federico Vismara

 

Semifinals

Piatti b. Vismara 15-11

Yamada b. Allegre 15-9

 

Final

Yamada b. Piatti 15-9

 

Full Ranking & Results

https://fie.org/competitions/2024/98

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no. #1 seed :ITA lost to :UKR in the round of 16 in the team world cup in :GER Heidenheim! :yikes:

 

it won't change much, but that's what you get when your best player is totally out of shape (and it's quite some time...it starts to be worrying) and your no.2 player (who's won a bronze medal the day before) is not even on the squad :facepalm:

 

right now we're set for the quarterfinals:

 

:UKR vs :SUI 

:JPN vs :AUT :yikes: biggest surprise of the day, knocked out :VEN in the round of 32 :facepalm:

:HUN vs :KAZ (key match, with both teams currently tied at the 4th place in the OQR)

:FRA vs :CZE (another surprising team, they knocked out :KOR in the round of 16)

 

*if :KAZ lose, :JPN need to earn a lot of points to close down the distance between them and keep the pace to steal the Asian OQP in the last event, as :KAZ are going to drop our of the top 4 of the OQR)

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 lost to :UKR in the round of 16 in the team world cup in :GER Heidenheim! :yikes:

 

it won't change much, but that's what you get when your best player is totally out of shape (and it's quite some time...it starts to be worrying) and your no.2 player (who's won a bronze medal the day before) is not even on the squad :facepalm:

 

right now we're set for the quarterfinals:

 

:UKR vs :SUI 

:JPN vs :AUT :yikes: biggest surprise of the day, knocked out :VEN in the round of 32 :facepalm:

:HUN vs :KAZ (key match, with both teams currently tied at the 4th place in the OQR)

:FRA vs :CZE (another surprising team, they knocked out :KOR in the round of 16)

 

*if :KAZ lose, :JPN need to earn a lot of points to close down the distance between them and keep the pace to steal the Asian OQP in the last event, as :KAZ are going to drop our of the top 4 of the OQR)

I think :ITA just does not have enough motivation.

 

But at the same time - it was the best performance of :UKR in thie men`s epee qualification period. We lost to  :SUI in the QF at the priority minute only and were ahead with 11 seconds to the end. So the team proved that it is not as weak as it was several months ago. Of course it is too late to fight for Olympic quota. But with the return of Svichkar we can find our way to strengthen our raking position.

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:FRA won bronze

 

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after Today's results, :ITA:FRA:JPN:HUN:EGY:VEN  are mathematically qualified to Paris 2024

 

:KAZ might still earn the 4th spot (especially if :HUN lose the GMM later Today), but it's highly unlikely

however, they still have a 26 point-margin over :KOR for the Asian spot

 

:VEN have no more chances to make the top 4 of the OQR, but they're safe as the best Panamerican team

 

:SUI have a 8-point margin over :CZE and a 15-point margin over :ESP (:GER are also not mathematically out yet, but basically their chances are only theoretical) for the European spot, provided :HUN keep their place in the Top 4 at the end of the final OQT

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good news for :ITA also in the women and men's Foil World Cup in :EGY Cairo

 

among the men, the final act is an all-Italian affair between Tommaso Marini and Edoardo Luperi

 

among the women, instead, it's a replay of the last tournament, with Martina Favaretto facing the Olympic Champion, :USA Lee Kiefer

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