website statistics
Jump to content

China's alleged Badminton match/age fixing


up and down
 Share

Recommended Posts

2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

They have already closed the case? Because that's of course not what the news article you just posted says :p 

 

Well BWF said action cannot be taken and they need to get in touch with tournament organizers to find out the truth. Well during the tournament time even the umpires ended up warning the players halfway through the match in the second set at point 7-11. Somehow BWF can say they cannot find out the truth and wanted to get in touch with tournament organizers first. So after that practically no news and no updates from BWF side. They close the case and no action taken on the players. Gosh.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

They have already closed the case? Because that's of course not what the news article you just posted says :p 

 

This cause is tough. The tournament organizer is Fuzhou, China. So of course they will not admit to that there is the element of match fixing. Then BWF want to get in touch with tournament organizer to find out the truth. No action can be taken when tournament organizers don't want to admit it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

To be fair to BWF, I don't think there are many Sports bodies with the guts to disqualify a bunch of top teams (specially Chinese) like they did in 2012.

 

Also, it is very hard to prove fixing. I am assuming the fixing is not related to betting but about which team needs more points and matches at present. In such a case, there is no money trail to follow. Plus, the losing team can always feign an injury and say we were playing way below par so as not to risk increasing the problem. In London Olympics, this defence couldn't be used because the losing teams qualified to semi-finals and hence feigning injury was not practical.

 

I share your frustration at this being disrespectful and cheating. But I just don't see how it can be punished. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well I am suspecting there will be lots of matches fixed up tomorrow again since it is going to be an all MS, WD and XD finals for China. Well China has been so famous for their match fixing when playing against their own team mates. Sad till today BWF just let if be and nothing is done. :(:cry::wacko:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Players take up the fight against match fixing in badminton

Long-held suspicions were confirmed in late March this year, when Chinese badminton coach Li Yongbo admitted to fixing one of the women’s singles semi-finals at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens.
 

Thus far, the Badminton World Federation (BWF) has failed to get an explanation from China over the admission. The Badminton Players Federation (BPF) is keen for answers though, and calls for tough sanctions against the Chinese coach.

After the admission by Li Yongbo, the BWF began to set up an Ethics Commission to deal with similar incidents in the future, though its progress has disappointed the BPF.

“Not enough action has been taken,” says Bobby Milroy, President of Badminton Players Federation. “In such a case where Li Yongbo feels it appropriate to boast about match-fixing, the BWF should do whatever it takes to ensure his immediate dismissal.”

“My recommendation at the time was to ban Chinese players from all competitions, including the Olympics, until such time as Li Yongbo was fired,” continues Milroy.

How the BWF would react to such a proposal coming from its Ethics Commission is uncertain. The world governing body for badminton has been contacted for a response by Play the Game, though at the time of writing is yet to respond. However, given the popularity of badminton in China, it would be a bold move for the BWF to eliminate the Chinese team on the verge of the Beijing Olympics. 

Players unhappy
Why Li Yongbo decided to go public with this admission remains unclear, though his admissions come as no surprise to many top badminton players.

Among them is Anna Rice, Canada’s top female singles player and world number 30, who has been outspoken in her criticism of the toleration of this form of match fixing in international badminton.

“Apparently Chinese coaches have publicly admitted fixing matches for years, and to the Chinese it is regarded to be an act of patriotism to make the best win”, says Rice to Play the Game.

According to Yongbo, the Chinese team has nothing to be ashamed of as China has a history of favouring certain players when two of them meet at international events. “It shows our patriotism and in fact I’m proud of it,” Yongbo told China Central Television’s sports channel.

Rice disagrees: “In Asia there seem to be widespread knowledge about the fixing of matches, apparently without this being a matter of major concern within the national federations.”

Empathy and concern
Fellow Canadian Martha Deacon, the former president of Badminton Canada, echoes her views.

“The public admission of match fixing has been of great concern to athletes worldwide. Great empathy and concern is expressed to athletes who have become direct victims of this. The players in most countries will not tolerate this unfair play,” says Deacon to Play the Game.

Yongbo’s admission centred on the semi-final at the Athens Olympics between Zhou Mi and Zhang Ning. After watching Zhang win the first game, the coaching staff decided that she would have a better chance at winning the final against a non-Chinese opponent rather than Zhou. “So we told Zhou Mi not to work too hard and let Zhang into the final,” Yongbo, the Chinese coach, told television reporters.

Zhang won the gold as planned over Mia Audina representing the Netherlands, and is expected to defend her Olympic title at the Beijing Games in August. After the tournament, Zhou quit the Chinese team and went to play for Hong Kong. She has now qualified to represent the territory at the Beijing Olympics.

The Players Federation takes this case very seriously: “The BPF will continue to push for harsher sanctions against anyone caught match fixing. It is also our intention to open an investigation into match fixing practices,” says Bobby Milroy to Play the Game. 

Match fixing widespread
Apparently the 2004 Olympics case was not a one-off. “The issue of match fixing is not only a problem in the women's singles, it affects all five disciplines,” writes Rice on her personal blog http://www.annarice.org/.

At the All-England Super Series Men’s Singles final in March this year there were suspicions about the Chinese player and world number one in the men’s singles, Lin Dan’s defeat to teammate Chen Jin. And in April’s Asian Championship in Malaysia, Lin Dan again failed to play his best as he lost to Chen Jin in the semi-finals.

Experts suggest that Lin Dan threw the match in order to get Chen Jin into the final to ensure a ranking of fourth in the world, thereby guaranteeing qualification for the Olympics for Chen Jin and hereby secure the Chinese Team an extra player.

“It is very telling that many journalists at the 2008 All-England had their articles about the Men's Singles final already written the night before the match. The outcome was clearly pre-determined”, concludes Rice.

Absence of individualism
According to Dr. Huan Xiong from Irish Institute of Chinese Studies at University College Cork in Ireland, there are some basic explanations to this phenomenon, which may be embedded in the Chinese social system.

“For a long time, no individualism has existed in Chinese society. Everyone belongs to the state and has to obey to the nation. The interests of nation and the state always come first when social members make their decisions. This ideology is also reflected in sport. To guarantee the final success of the games, the team manager has the right to decide which player is going to play and win for next matches,” Huan Xiong tells Play the Game.

Athletes, who are selected as young kids, trained, and paid by the Chinese Government are pretty much like employees of the Government. “Their job is to win medals and serve the nation. Emotionally, the sports teams are their second homes and they have to listen to their coaches, managers, who play the roles like their parents” Huan Xiong continues.

However, Huan Xiong believes that this phenomenon in Chinese sport will change in the process of market-oriented transformation. Some of the athletes have become aware of their own individual rights and interests.

Beijing Olympics
But when Anna Rice takes to the court this summer in Beijing, it will not just be this kind of match fixing that will worry the Canadian and her fellow players.

Other circumstances cause concern for players, such as the amount of Chinese referees and line judges during the matches in Beijing, bringing into question the impartiality of the officiating at the Games. According to the IOC rules, a minimum of ten percent of the referees and line judges at the Olympic matches should be foreigners, and the Chinese organizers have kept close to that figure when the referee team was set.

The fear of unfair verdicts is backed up by Danish national badminton coach, Steen Pedersen, who worries that the passion for badminton in China will mean that match officials will feel compelled to ensure Chinese victories. “Fair play is not on top of their list and that will without doubt influence on the verdicts during the Games,” says Pedersen to Play the Game.

Danish players have often played in China and they are used to be cheated by the Chinese referees and line judges, believes the Danish coach. “That’s the conditions we have to play under; the important thing is to be well prepared when you meet these types of challenges and to be able to control your emotions, even if you get a clearly unfair verdict,” Pedersen concludes.

To counteract these biases, Pedersen advocates for new rules regarding referees and line judges, especially at big events such as the Olympics in order to obtain more neutral verdicts during the matches and to secure that the Olympic Games first and foremost is a matter of fair play and sportsmanship.

More transparency in badminton
However, in spite of the wrangling and tension within the Badminton World Federation and the recent admissions of fixed matches, Pedersen is optimistic regarding the future: “BWF is moving in a positive direction, especially after the resignation of Punch Gunalan, the former vice president of BWF. Now we need to agree on some rules and penalties pointing forward to avoid match fixing.”

Nonetheless, Rice an ambassador for the pressure group “Right to Play”, believes it is important to her to get the problems in international badminton out in the open, also in western countries where badminton is not such a big sport as it is in Asia: “I take the issue of match fixing in our sport very seriously. To me it is as much a form of cheating as is doping. Not only does it cast a light of illegitimacy on our entire sport (and everyone involved with it), it also takes away the right of players to pursue their own destiny.”

Rice suggests a special committee set up within the IOC to investigate the incidents and to punish the teams. “It is important to create a body to ensure, protect and promote the ethical values of our sport,” she concludes.

A similar proposal was put forward by Play the Game in 2006, for a global coalition against corruption in sport, similar to the World Anti-Doping Agency.

“We have seen and documented so many instances of corruption, democratic deficiencies and sporting swindles, which can neither be solved by sports organisations' own ethical committees – which in reality function as bottles for delicate questions – nor by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) or the International Olympic Committee. There are too many opportunities for corruption and cheating in international sport, and there is quite simply a need for one authority, which can in a credible way devise a rulebook that ensures sports leaders can be sentenced with similar penalties to the ones they impose on the athletes,” believes Jens Sejer Andersen, Director of Play the Game.

The idea of an anti-corruption agency appeals to the BPF: “I would really like to be involved with it in some capacity,” Milroy tells Play the Game.

According to Martha Deacon, the athletes have to be united and step up to the plate to say this is unacceptable to ensure the integrity of badminton and for unethical practices to be challenged and stopped. “Bobby Milroy, the BWF Player Representative will be in China to continue to advocate for the game and what is right and fair. He needs the support of nations, of policy makers of NOC as he tries to move forward.”

“There has to be some very tough measures and sanctions put into place and monitored for the future,” says Deacon. “Everyone involved in badminton must take off their own ‘hats’ and find a way to work together and find common ground for the future of the sport”.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, up and down said:

I just find it so difficult to believe that match fixing in China is so rampant till today and yet BWF has decided not to do anything and just ignore it and let it be? Gosh.

How do you want to catch someone from match-fixing? Installing spy cameras in every venue, every badminton association building, every team hotels, also in every players' and coaches' pockets?

Even if you know the match is fixed, as long as there is no proof like "X instructs Y to lose to Z" you can't just ban them. (sad but true)

It's not that easy....

 

At least referee nowadays dare to confront fishy matches and threaten them with black card, just like Li/Liu vs He/Tan in Fuzhou last year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, Griff88 said:

How do you want to catch someone from match-fixing? Installing spy cameras in every venue, every badminton association building, every team hotels, also in every players' and coaches' pockets?

Even if you know the match is fixed, as long as there is no proof like "X instructs Y to lose to Z" you can't just ban them. (sad but true)

It's not that easy....

 

At least referee nowadays dare to confront fishy matches and threaten them with black card, just like Li/Liu vs He/Tan in Fuzhou last year.

 

Thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it and thanks for your good valuable output.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...
On 06/04/2019 at 21:22, up and down said:

Well I am suspecting there will be lots of matches fixed up tomorrow again since it is going to be an all MS, WD and XD finals for China. Well China has been so famous for their match fixing when playing against their own team mates. Sad till today BWF just let if be and nothing is done. :(:cry::wacko:

 

This is what I said on 6th April, 2019. Today again on 27th April, 2019 another match fixing between all China WS occurred again today. Well it is Cai Yanyan playing versus He Bingjiao. Cai Yanyan had a very easy win in the first set 21-8 in just 10 minutes. Then during the second set He Bingjiao had an easy win 21-12 in just 16 minutes. Both first and second set ended with easy wins for both sides per side. This is similar to that Li Junhui / Liu Yuchen versus He Jiting / Tan Qiang match played at Fuzhou China Open 2018. Don't tell me this time BWF still want to let it be and no actions taken again? Shocking or not? Both Cai Yanyan and He Bingjiao only started to play seriously during the third set. Amazing. How come BWF always let it be and no action taken? Speechless. :(:cry::wacko::facepalm::mumble::mad::yikes:

Edited by up and down
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well a comparison here. This WS match between He Bingjiao versus Cai Yanyan that is played in three sets ended up pretty fast in 49 minutes. Whereas the MS match between Kento Momota versus Nguyen Tien Minh that is played in two straight sets took 45 minutes. This is amazing. This is indeed too amazing to believe. Match fixing when there is an all China players or not it has been pretty obvious. Come on BWF please do something about this and stop this act of match fixing among China players please. :(:cry::cool::facepalm::mumble::yikes::mad::wacko:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Latest Posts around Totallympics

    • The problem of the Italian federation is that her system doesn`t work and we can`t afford to lose talents like Colturi. Our slalom does not exist, whether among women or men. We are currently at a level under that Croatia in women and Bulgaria in the men's category. There is no progress, in fact there is regression, because while Vinatzer often didn`t finish runs a few years ago, when he did finish he was able to be in the top. Now he either doesn`t finish or is around 20th place, like now. In the women's category the peak of our abilities is Peterlini, who regularly placed around 20th place in the World Cup... If we can`t afford to invest more than Albania and that with the Winter Olympics in a year at, then I think we can really dissolve our ski sector and focus on something else... If the federation is satisfied with such low levels, let them continue   Btw. maybe it's better investing in private teams like Colturi, if it works? I'd like have 1-2 Colturi in private teams, who will stand on the podiums of the World Cup, than a national team consisting of 5-6 average skiers, who can take 20th place at most, if they finish the race at all...
    • Day 6   36. SPEED SKATING - W 5000m   1. Irene Schouten NED 2. Ragne Wiklund NOR 3. Martina Sablikova CZE   37. SHORT TRACK - W 500m   1. Sandra Velzeboer NED 2. Kristen Santos-Griswold USA 3. Selma Poutsma NED   38. SHORT TRACK - M 1000m   1. William Dandjinou CAN 2. Jens van't Wout NED 3. Park Ji-won KOR   39. FREESTYLE SKIING - M Moguls   1. Mikael Kingsbury CAN 2. Ikuma Horishima JPN 3. Walter Wallberg SWE   40. SNOWBOARD - M Snowboard Cross   1. Eliot Grondin CAN 2. Alessandro Hammerle AUT 3. Omar Visintin ITA   41. SNOWBOARD - W Snowboard Halfpipe   1. Mitsuki Ono JPN 2. Maddie Mastro USA 3. Sena Tomita JPN   42. ALPINE SKIING - W Super-G   1. Lara Gut-Behrami SUI 2. Cornelia Huetter AUT 3. Federica Brignone ITA   43. LUGE - Team Relay   1. Germany 2. Austria 3. Latvia   44. CROSS-COUNTRY SKIING - W 10km Free   1. Jessie Diggins USA 2. Therese Johaug NOR 3. Victoria Carl GER
    • https://olympics.com/en/news/olympic-winter-games-milano-cortina-2026-full-daily-competition-schedule
    • @Antooo any chance that you will be able to prepare 2026 olympics schedule in Excel/PDF file like you did for 2024??? It should be easier now, much less events to do. And no hurry at all, we have 15 months to go...
    • A lot of frist time in the men's epee. Gavalda, French and Ho at their frist podium in career 
    • Men's Epee ( Vancouver) Gold:  FREILICH Yuval Shalom  Silver:  GAVALDA Eugeni Bronze:  FRENCH Dylan &  HO Wai Hang    Full results:https://www.fencingtimelive.com/events/results/97E897C7F64B426996E085E1E41C00C8     Women's Epee ( Vancouver) Gold:  SONG Sera Silver:  LEHIS Katrina Bronze:  HSIEH Kaylin Sin Yan &  DIFFERT Nelli   Full results:https://www.fencingtimelive.com/events/results/B9FA9201BF6D442C81345797CEC749FE
    • IMO the Italian federation was right in not giving to that financial and political blackmail - had they accepted it, plenty of more established athletes in snow sports could have asked for more under the threat of changing nationality. It's not like they had a sports almanac from the future saying that that 15yo girl would have won 5 olympic gold medals and 5 overall world cups.
    • Allez  He tried to pull this one lots of time and finally managed to go all the way.
    • Nonsense. Chamizo moved to Italy, married an Italian, he's still here after many years and was essentially banned from competing for Cuba. Colturi's tie to Albania is that the Albanian federation had invested a ton of money in her mother's business (élite and very costly academy for young skiers), and then gave her a role, and probably another big salary, as a director in exchange for the pomise of their first winter Olympic medal. A better comparison is to that archer who competed for Ivory Coast because her father had a big clothing business in the country.
    • I guess Stoch will retire in the end of 2025/2026 season.
×
×
  • Create New...