[OFF TOPIC] Save The Planet Thread

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6 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

This is why I say that socialism in it’s contemporary form doesn’t work. There needs to be an incentive to get these people to get their act together. So, yes they should receive aid, but maybe some requirements should need to be meet first. I feel really bad for the kids (just like the kids in Rio’s favelas, LA’s Compton/Boyle Heights/Pomona/the east side of my town, New Delhi’s slums, China’s Uighers, etc.). It frustrates me that my town has done the same. The “rich” and middle class (I come from a mid to upper middle class family) live on the much nicer west side of the train tracks, or far to the east. The east side of town is full of people who need help and so turn to crime, drugs, etc. It makes me so sad that our little community can’t even solve a basic problem like that.

 

You don't have to tell anyone in the Central/Eastern Europe that socialism doesn't work We've been through this shit for a long time. That's why whenever I hear someone from the Anglo-Saxon countries talking about socialism being great I giggle because they have no idea what they're talking about. Sure, the lib-social state can work and does work in Europe but mostly in countries with a relative small population and huge natural resources (Norway with oil, Sweden with iron & copper). The bigger the country is the more the socialism is simply unsustainable. It would never work in USA with their outrageous population (300m?). It would only lead into more divide among the society. When I hear Bernie Sanders or Cortez-Ocasio talk about how fine socialism is that's downright insane. The entire Soviet block collapsed because it was unsustainable (even after the new wave of communists took over in the 70s and changed the agenda from communism to socialism).

 

Slovakia only has ca. 5 million population while Poland has 38m so it seems some of the former Soviet satellites are expanding faster these days but it's so much easier for a smaller nation to catch up than us. Even Lithuania has passed Poland on the GDP scale (obv. Czech Rep. & Slovakia are ahead) but the likes of Latvia, Croatia & Romania are still behind us  The one doing really bad seems to be Bulgaria given their low population.

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4 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

You don't have to tell anyone in the Central/Eastern Europe that socialism doesn't work We've been through this shit for a long time. That's why whenever I hear someone from the Anglo-Saxon countries talking about socialism being great I giggle because they have no idea what they're talking about. Sure, the lib-social state can work and does work in Europe but mostly in countries with a relative small population and huge natural resources (Norway with oil, Sweden with iron & copper). The bigger the country is the more the socialism is simply unsustainable. It would never work in USA with their outrageous population (300m?). It would only lead into more divide among the society. When I hear Bernie Sanders or Cortez-Ocasio talk about how fine socialism is that's downright insane. The entire Soviet block collapsed because it was unsustainable (even after the new wave of communists took over in the 70s and changed the agenda from communism to socialism).

 

Slovakia only has ca. 5 million population while Poland has 38m so it seems some of the former Soviet satellites are expanding faster these days but it's so much easier for a smaller nation to catch up than us. Even Lithuania has passed Poland on the GDP scale (obv. Czech Rep. & Slovakia are ahead) but the likes of Latvia, Croatia & Romania are still behind us  The one doing really bad seems to be Bulgaria given their low population.

It’s Ocasio-Cortez by the way . I know becuase I helped spread word about her during the 2018 elections.

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22 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Could someone explain to me what the Roma are? I’ve read the Wikipedia article, but I don’t get why Europeans hate them.

 

Example from Poland - Romas usually have lived in wagons for decades, then they were forced into social sub-standard housing. They don't have full-time jobs more often than not and hang around with seasonal work and of course theft. They don't really allow marriage to non-Romas. I know a Roman community nearby a place where I used to work and man, that was like a junkyard. Romas, alcoholics, unemployed deadbeats, the cream of the non-working class society hang around there. Just a society pest I'm afraid. Begging for a damn nickle all day long on the corner to buy some hooch from a locally known moonshiner etc. Later that corner turned into a parking lot by the mall. You can see those people all the time in Poland and several Romas among them. So that is their "hood". No wonder people kinda dislike them And police ain't gonna do anything since they don't officially work, they have no official income so they can't even post a damn bail. So they usually prefer to ignore them unless there's some real criminal activity. You can't lock someone up for being a filthy beggar?

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4 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

It’s Ocasio-Cortez by the way . I know becuase I helped spread word about her during the 2018 elections.

 

Someone needs to tell her she's living in utopia. Her stuff could work in some poor third world country or even in Peru or Bolivia but USA? Hell no. USA is kinda too rich to dwell on her socialism craze. Unless she wants to give Texas & Arizona back to Mexico?

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14 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

Someone needs to tell her she's living in utopia. Her stuff could work in some poor third world country or even in Peru or Bolivia but USA? Hell no. USA is kinda too rich to dwell on her socialism craze. Unless she wants to give Texas & Arizona back to Mexico?

I’d be totally ok with that, those are two the worst states in the union. Her message has been popular especially amongst the newer-lefter votes. Politics has become interesting in the US. Your either a good way right or left, there’s no center anymore. Less then half our population will in elections now to because people have lost faith in the system.

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5 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I’d be totally ok with that, those are two the worst states in the union. Her message has been popular especially amongst the newer-lefter votes. Politics has become interesting in the US. Your either a good way right or left, there’s no center anymore. Less then half our population will in elections now to because people have lost faith in the system.

 

I'm sorry but the Democrats have completely lost the plot sending Hilary Clinton after Barack Obama who was the new hope in politics. Clinton is a fuckin' political animal who sacrificed her honor just to stay in business. She's basically what the GOP is. Power-greedy rich person. You can't sell that after Obama of all people. Just can't. Forget the Russian hackers. The entire US has turned backwards, Deep South votes GOP and the West Coast votes Dems. Hell, Mississippi has a GOP chokehold for 30 years now? How in the world that happened? All the black people emigrated outta there or what?

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17 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

I'm sorry but the Democrats have completely lost the plot sending Hilary Clinton after Barack Obama who was the new hope in politics. Clinton is a fuckin' political animal who sacrificed her honor just to stay in business. She's basically what the GOP is. Power-greedy rich person. You can't sell that after Obama of all people. Just can't. Forget the Russian hackers. The entire US has turned backwards, Deep South votes GOP and the West Coast votes Dems. Hell, Mississippi has a GOP chokehold for 30 years now? How in the world that happened? All the black people emigrated outta there or what?

The problem with the South is that they’ve come up with super strict voting laws that have a huge effect on the black vote. I was not a fan of Clinton by the way, I always thought running her over Bernie was a mistake. The South actually used to be democratic because a lot of the poor white South agreed with all the Democratic parties principles (and still does) except for our adopted stance on equality. The Republican Party was for a long time the party of equality, but then a Democratic President signed the Equal Rights Act and that was the end of Democratics in the South. It was a good trade of in my opinion. The Democratic has become the party of hope, equality, and progressivism, while the GOP has become whatever you want to call it (but it ain’t good in most cases).

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Which President signed this? Carter? Bernie was a no-hoper too tbh. If a 70yo Donald Trump mocks you because of your age you know you're a dead duck. Dems simply need to find a new Obama. It would be hilarious if Joe Biden gets the nod because he fits the same profile as Clinton and on the other hand I don't see socialism being the way to the White House at all. Dems simply to need to find that person in the middle. Obama was one, Sanders, Biden and Cortez ain't them at all.

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5 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Which President signed this? Carter? Bernie was a no-hoper too tbh. If a 70yo Donald Trump mocks you because of your age you know you're a dead duck. Dems simply need to find a new Obama. It would be hilarious if Joe Biden gets the nod because he fits the same profile as Clinton and on the other hand I don't see socialism being the way to the White House at all. Dems simply to need to find that person in the middle. Obama was one, Sanders, Biden and Cortez ain't them at all.

I think the best candidates would be 1) Kamala Harris 2) Elizabeth Warren 3) Julian Castro 4) Mayor Pete. Also, Bernie is actually younger than Trump I believe. The Voting Rights Act was signed into to law by Lyndon Johnson (and the GOP felt no need to renew it last year, shocking)

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5 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I think the best candidates would be 1) Kamala Harris 2) Elizabeth Warren 3) Julian Castro 4) Mayor Pete. Also, Bernie is actually younger than Trump I believe. The Voting Rights Act was signed into to law by Lyndon Johnson (and the GOP felt no need to renew it last year, shocking)

 

Can't say anything about Harris but Warren has already shit the bed with her Native heritage claims. As for Johnson, well, he was for sure the worst Democratic President in the XX century. The Vietnam hangover is all on this guy