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Men's Baseball WBSC World Baseball Classic 2023

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19 minutes ago, intoronto said:

Citizenship rules are really relaxed.

I realize that but even then there are some rules...

 

A player is eligible to participate on a World Baseball Classic team if any one of the following criteria is met

The player is a citizen of the nation the team represents.
The player is qualified for citizenship or to hold a passport under the laws of a nation represented by a team, but has not been granted citizenship or been issued a passport; in this case, the player may be made eligible by WBC upon petition by the player or team.
The player is a permanent legal resident of the nation or territory the team represents.
The player was born in the nation or territory the team represents.
The player has one parent who is, or if deceased was, a citizen of the nation the team represents.
The player has one parent who was born in the nation or territory the team represents.

 

Let's take Mike Piazza as an example, he was eligible for Italy because Italian law allows the great-grandchild of an Italian to claim citizenship.

But British law is much stricter and I'm struggling to find a reason why the Bahamians are eligible

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The pool's have officially been confirmed!

 

Biggest surprise is that Panama was placed in the Taiwan group while Great Britain is playing in one of the US groups.

Pool A

Taichung

Pool B

Tokyo

Pool C

Phoenix

Pool D

Miami

:CUB Cuba :AUS Australia :CAN Canada :DOM Dominican Republic
:ITA Italy :CHN China :COL Colombia :ISR Israel
:NED Netherlands :CZE Czech Republic :GBR Great Britain :NCA Nicaragua
:PAN Panama :JPN Japan :MEX Mexico :PUR Puerto Rico
:TWN Taiwan :KOR South Korea :USA United States :VEN Venezuela

 

Panama is definitely the biggest winner here as it seems like any of the 5 teams in Pool A can advance out of the pool.

 

Czech Republic gets a decent pool as well. They'll basically have no chance against Japan and Korea but are capable of beating China to avoid having to go through the qualification phase in 2026.

 

Originally thought to be in Pool A, Great Britain now finds itself in Pool C with the other 4 teams being unfavourable matchups. Of course, watch them end up beating Canada just because that's how baseball works.

 

Nicaragua is definitely the biggest losers here. Their WBC debut will see them play in the group of death and they'll have to face off against the powerhouses of the DR, Puerto Rico, Venezuela along with Israel will be mostly the Jewish American team.

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4 hours ago, Topicmaster1010 said:

The pool's have officially been confirmed!

 

Biggest surprise is that Panama was placed in the Taiwan group while Great Britain is playing in one of the US groups.

Pool A

Taichung

Pool B

Tokyo

Pool C

Phoenix

Pool D

Miami

:CUB Cuba :AUS Australia :CAN Canada :DOM Dominican Republic
:ITA Italy :CHN China :COL Colombia :ISR Israel
:NED Netherlands :CZE Czech Republic :GBR Great Britain :NCA Nicaragua
:PAN Panama :JPN Japan :MEX Mexico :PUR Puerto Rico
:TWN Taiwan :KOR South Korea :USA United States :VEN Venezuela

 

Panama is definitely the biggest winner here as it seems like any of the 5 teams in Pool A can advance out of the pool.

 

Czech Republic gets a decent pool as well. They'll basically have no chance against Japan and Korea but are capable of beating China to avoid having to go through the qualification phase in 2026.

 

Originally thought to be in Pool A, Great Britain now finds itself in Pool C with the other 4 teams being unfavourable matchups. Of course, watch them end up beating Canada just because that's how baseball works.

 

Nicaragua is definitely the biggest losers here. Their WBC debut will see them play in the group of death and they'll have to face off against the powerhouses of the DR, Puerto Rico, Venezuela along with the Jewish American team.

Spain has only 2 Spanish players but we are apparently untitled to have our name written?

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Spain has only 2 Spanish players but we are apparently untitled to have our name written?

Apologies, I should've worded that better. 

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updates on team :ITA Italy

 

those names have been included at yesterday's official presentation of the team at the NF headquarter.

 

Ben DeLuzio (OF, St. Louis Cardinals)

Matt Festa (RP, Seattle Mariners)

David Fletcher (IF, Los Angeles Angels)

Dominic Fletcher (OF, Reno Aces, AAA Arizona Diamondbacks)

Vito Friscia (C, Lehigh Valley IronPigs, AAA Philadelphia Phillies)

Sam Haggerty (UTL, Seattle Mariners)

Nicky Lopez (SS/2B, Kansas City Royals)

Joey Marciano (RP, Sacramento River Cats, AAA San Francisco Giants)

Miles Mastrobuoni (UTL, Tampa Bay Rays)

Andre Pallante (RP, St. Louis Cardinals)

Vinnie Pasquantino (1B; Kansas City Royals)

Mitchell Stumpo (RP, Reno Aces, AAA Arizona Diamondbacks)

Brett Sullivan (C/UTL, El Paso Chihuahuas, AAA San Diego Padres)

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updates on team :ITA Italy

 

those names have been included at yesterday's official presentation of the team at the NF headquarter.

 

Ben DeLuzio (OF, St. Louis Cardinals)

Matt Festa (RP, Seattle Mariners)

David Fletcher (IF, Los Angeles Angels)

Dominic Fletcher (OF, Reno Aces, AAA Arizona Diamondbacks)

Vito Friscia (C, Lehigh Valley IronPigs, AAA Philadelphia Phillies)

Sam Haggerty (UTL, Seattle Mariners)

Nicky Lopez (SS/2B, Kansas City Royals)

Joey Marciano (RP, Sacramento River Cats, AAA San Francisco Giants)

Miles Mastrobuoni (UTL, Tampa Bay Rays)

Andre Pallante (RP, St. Louis Cardinals)

Vinnie Pasquantino (1B; Kansas City Royals)

Mitchell Stumpo (RP, Reno Aces, AAA Arizona Diamondbacks)

Brett Sullivan (C/UTL, El Paso Chihuahuas, AAA San Diego Padres)

fun fact, Joey Marciano is the great grandchild of the legendary fighter Rocky Marciano. :yikes:

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Updated List of known committed players so Far (stolen from r/InternationalBaseBall):

 

:AUS Australia: Liam Hendriks (Chicago White Sox), Curtis Mead (Tampa Bay Rays minors)

 

:CAN Canada: Freddie Freeman (Los Angeles Dodgers), Charles Leblanc (Miami Marlins), Josh Naylor (Cleveland Guardians), Cal Quantrill (Cleveland Guardians), Abraham Toro (Seattle Mariners)

 

:COL Colombia: Jorge Alfaro (San Diego Padres), Nabil Crismatt (San Diego Padres), Jeter Downs (Boston Red Sox), Sandy Leon (Free Agent), Reiver Sanmartin (Cincinnati Reds), Donovan Solano (Free Agent), Jose Quintana (Free Agent), Harold Ramirez (Tampa Bay Rays), Julio Teheran (Sultanes de Monterrey, LMB), Gio Urshela (Minnesota Twins)

 

:DOM Dominican Republic: Sandy Alcantara (Miami Marlins), Genesis Cabrera (St. Louis Cardinals), Emmanuel Clase (Cleveland Guardians), Rafael Devers (Boston Red Sox), Wander Franco (Tampa Bay Rays), Yimi Garcia (Toronto Blue Jays), Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (Toronto Blue Jays), Cristian Javier (Houston Astros), Manny Machado (San Diego Padres), Starling Marte (New York Mets), Christopher Morel (Chicago Cubs), Jose Ramirez (Cleveland Guardians), Gary Sanchez (Free Agent), Juan Soto (San Diego Padres)

 

:GBR Great Britain: Jazz Chisholm (Miami Marlins), Harry Ford (Seattle Mariners), D'Shawn Knowles (Los Angeles Angels minors), Ian Lewis (Miami Marlins minors), Vance Worley (Kane County Cougars, AA)

 

:ISR Israel: Harrison Bader (St. Louis Cardinals), Jake Bird (Colorado Rockies), Richard Bleier (Miami Marlins), Jake Fishman (Free Agent), Dean Kremer (Baltimore Orioles), Ryan Lavarnway (Miami Marlins), Eli Morgan (Cleveland Guardians), Joc Pederson (Free Agent), Kevin Pillar (Free Agent), Robert Stock (Doosan Bears, KBO), Zack Weiss (Los Angeles Angels)

 

:ITA Italy: Daniel Castano (Miami Marlins), Ben DeLuzio (St. Louis Cardinals), Matt Festa (Seattle Mariners), David Fletcher (Los Angeles Angels), Dominic Fletcher (Arizona Diamondbacks minors), Vito Friscia (Philadelphia Phillies minors), Sam Haggerty (Seattle Mariners), Nicky Lopez (Kansas City Royals), Trey Mancini (Free Agent), Joey Marciano (San Francisco Giants minors), Miles Mastrobuoni (Tampa Bay Rays), Adam Ottavino (Free Agent), Andre Pallante (St. Louis Cardinals), Vinnie Pasquantino (Kansas City Royals), Jordan Romano (Toronto Blue Jays), Mitchell Stumpo (Arizona Diamondbacks minors), Brett Sullivan (San Diego Padres minors)

 

:JPN Japan: Shohei Ohtani (Los Angeles Angels), Seiya Suzuki (Chicago Cubs)

 

:MEX Mexico: Randy Arozarena (Tampa Bay Rays), Javier Assad (Chicago Cubs), Andres Munoz (Seattle Mariners), Isaac Paredes (Tampa Bay Rays), Manuel Rodriguez (Chicago Cubs), Rowdy Tellez (Milwaukee Brewers), Julio Urias (Los Angeles Dodgers), Jose Urquidy (Houston Astros), Alex Verdugo (Boston Red Sox)

 

:NED Netherlands: Wladimir Balentien (Free Agent)

 

:NCA Nicaragua: Jonathan Loaisiga (New York Yankees), Erasmo Ramirez (Free Agent), Mark Vientos (New York Mets)

 

:PUR Puerto Rico: Javier Baez (Detroit Tigers), Jose Berrios (Toronto Blue Jays), Carlos Correa (Free Agent), Alexis Diaz (Cincinnati Reds), Edwin Diaz (New York Mets), Mychal Givens (Free Agent), Kike Hernandez (Boston Red Sox), Joe Jimenez (Detroit Tigers), Alex Lange (Detroit Tigers), Francisco Lindor (New York Mets), Jorge Lopez (Minnesota Twins), Seth Lugo (Free Agent), Martin Maldonado (Houston Astros), MJ Melendez (Kansas City Royals), Jose Miranda (Minnesota Twins), Jovani Moran (Minnesota Twins), Emilio Pagan (Minnesota Twins), Roberto Perez (Free Agent), Edwin Rios (Los Angeles Dodgers), Emmanuel Rivera (Arizona Diamondbacks), Eddie Rosario (Atlanta Braves), Neftali Soto (Yokohoma DeNA BayStars, NPB), Marcus Stroman (Chicago Cubs), Christian Vazquez (Free Agent)

 

:USA United States: Pete Alonso (New York Mets), Tim Anderson (Chicago White Sox), Nolan Arenado (St. Louis Cardinals), David Bednar (Pittsburgh Pirates), Mookie Betts (Los Angeles Dodgers), Paul Goldschmidt (St. Louis Cardinals), Bryce Harper (Philadelphia Phillies), Merrill Kelly (Arizona Diamondbacks), Cedric Mullins (Baltimore Orioles), Ryan Pressly (Houston Astros), J.T. Realmuto (Philadelphia Phillies), Will Smith (Los Angeles Dodgers), Trevor Story (Boston Red Sox), Dillon Tate (Baltimore Orioles), Mike Trout (Los Angeles Angels), Kyle Tucker (Houston Astros), Trea Turner (Free Agent), Devin Williams (Milwaukee Brewers), Bobby Witt Jr. (Kansas City Royals)

 

:VEN Venezuela: Ronald Acuna Jr. (Atlanta Braves), Jose Altuve (Houston Astros), Jose Alvarado (Philadelphia Phillies), Miguel Cabrera (Detroit Tigers), Andres Gimenez (Cleveland Guardians), Pablo Lopez (Miami Marlins), Jesus Luzardo (Miami Marlins), German Marquez (Colorado Rockies), Salvador Perez (Kansas City Royals), Anthony Santander (Baltimore Orioles), Ranger Suarez (Philadelphia Phillies)

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Updated List of known committed players so Far (stolen from r/InternationalBaseBall):

 

:AUS Australia: Liam Hendriks (Chicago White Sox), Curtis Mead (Tampa Bay Rays minors)

 

:CAN Canada: Freddie Freeman (Los Angeles Dodgers), Charles Leblanc (Miami Marlins), Josh Naylor (Cleveland Guardians), Cal Quantrill (Cleveland Guardians), Abraham Toro (Seattle Mariners)

 

:COL Colombia: Jorge Alfaro (San Diego Padres), Nabil Crismatt (San Diego Padres), Jeter Downs (Boston Red Sox), Sandy Leon (Free Agent), Reiver Sanmartin (Cincinnati Reds), Donovan Solano (Free Agent), Jose Quintana (Free Agent), Harold Ramirez (Tampa Bay Rays), Julio Teheran (Sultanes de Monterrey, LMB), Gio Urshela (Minnesota Twins)

 

:DOM Dominican Republic: Sandy Alcantara (Miami Marlins), Genesis Cabrera (St. Louis Cardinals), Emmanuel Clase (Cleveland Guardians), Rafael Devers (Boston Red Sox), Wander Franco (Tampa Bay Rays), Yimi Garcia (Toronto Blue Jays), Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (Toronto Blue Jays), Cristian Javier (Houston Astros), Manny Machado (San Diego Padres), Starling Marte (New York Mets), Christopher Morel (Chicago Cubs), Jose Ramirez (Cleveland Guardians), Gary Sanchez (Free Agent), Juan Soto (San Diego Padres)

 

:GBR Great Britain: Jazz Chisholm (Miami Marlins), Harry Ford (Seattle Mariners), D'Shawn Knowles (Los Angeles Angels minors), Ian Lewis (Miami Marlins minors), Vance Worley (Kane County Cougars, AA)

 

:ISR Israel: Harrison Bader (St. Louis Cardinals), Jake Bird (Colorado Rockies), Richard Bleier (Miami Marlins), Jake Fishman (Free Agent), Dean Kremer (Baltimore Orioles), Ryan Lavarnway (Miami Marlins), Eli Morgan (Cleveland Guardians), Joc Pederson (Free Agent), Kevin Pillar (Free Agent), Robert Stock (Doosan Bears, KBO), Zack Weiss (Los Angeles Angels)

 

:ITA Italy: Daniel Castano (Miami Marlins), Ben DeLuzio (St. Louis Cardinals), Matt Festa (Seattle Mariners), David Fletcher (Los Angeles Angels), Dominic Fletcher (Arizona Diamondbacks minors), Vito Friscia (Philadelphia Phillies minors), Sam Haggerty (Seattle Mariners), Nicky Lopez (Kansas City Royals), Trey Mancini (Free Agent), Joey Marciano (San Francisco Giants minors), Miles Mastrobuoni (Tampa Bay Rays), Adam Ottavino (Free Agent), Andre Pallante (St. Louis Cardinals), Vinnie Pasquantino (Kansas City Royals), Jordan Romano (Toronto Blue Jays), Mitchell Stumpo (Arizona Diamondbacks minors), Brett Sullivan (San Diego Padres minors)

 

:JPN Japan: Shohei Ohtani (Los Angeles Angels), Seiya Suzuki (Chicago Cubs)

 

:MEX Mexico: Randy Arozarena (Tampa Bay Rays), Javier Assad (Chicago Cubs), Andres Munoz (Seattle Mariners), Isaac Paredes (Tampa Bay Rays), Manuel Rodriguez (Chicago Cubs), Rowdy Tellez (Milwaukee Brewers), Julio Urias (Los Angeles Dodgers), Jose Urquidy (Houston Astros), Alex Verdugo (Boston Red Sox)

 

:NED Netherlands: Wladimir Balentien (Free Agent)

 

:NCA Nicaragua: Jonathan Loaisiga (New York Yankees), Erasmo Ramirez (Free Agent), Mark Vientos (New York Mets)

 

:PUR Puerto Rico: Javier Baez (Detroit Tigers), Jose Berrios (Toronto Blue Jays), Carlos Correa (Free Agent), Alexis Diaz (Cincinnati Reds), Edwin Diaz (New York Mets), Mychal Givens (Free Agent), Kike Hernandez (Boston Red Sox), Joe Jimenez (Detroit Tigers), Alex Lange (Detroit Tigers), Francisco Lindor (New York Mets), Jorge Lopez (Minnesota Twins), Seth Lugo (Free Agent), Martin Maldonado (Houston Astros), MJ Melendez (Kansas City Royals), Jose Miranda (Minnesota Twins), Jovani Moran (Minnesota Twins), Emilio Pagan (Minnesota Twins), Roberto Perez (Free Agent), Edwin Rios (Los Angeles Dodgers), Emmanuel Rivera (Arizona Diamondbacks), Eddie Rosario (Atlanta Braves), Neftali Soto (Yokohoma DeNA BayStars, NPB), Marcus Stroman (Chicago Cubs), Christian Vazquez (Free Agent)

 

:USA United States: Pete Alonso (New York Mets), Tim Anderson (Chicago White Sox), Nolan Arenado (St. Louis Cardinals), David Bednar (Pittsburgh Pirates), Mookie Betts (Los Angeles Dodgers), Paul Goldschmidt (St. Louis Cardinals), Bryce Harper (Philadelphia Phillies), Merrill Kelly (Arizona Diamondbacks), Cedric Mullins (Baltimore Orioles), Ryan Pressly (Houston Astros), J.T. Realmuto (Philadelphia Phillies), Will Smith (Los Angeles Dodgers), Trevor Story (Boston Red Sox), Dillon Tate (Baltimore Orioles), Mike Trout (Los Angeles Angels), Kyle Tucker (Houston Astros), Trea Turner (Free Agent), Devin Williams (Milwaukee Brewers), Bobby Witt Jr. (Kansas City Royals)

 

:VEN Venezuela: Ronald Acuna Jr. (Atlanta Braves), Jose Altuve (Houston Astros), Jose Alvarado (Philadelphia Phillies), Miguel Cabrera (Detroit Tigers), Andres Gimenez (Cleveland Guardians), Pablo Lopez (Miami Marlins), Jesus Luzardo (Miami Marlins), German Marquez (Colorado Rockies), Salvador Perez (Kansas City Royals), Anthony Santander (Baltimore Orioles), Ranger Suarez (Philadelphia Phillies)

:COL Julio Teheran right now is pitching for Toros del Este in the Dominican winter League LIDOM ;)

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Huge news from the international baseball world! It seems like :CUB Cuban defectors will be allowed to play for the national team for the first time ever. 

 

 

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Huge news from the international baseball world! It seems like :CUB Cuban defectors will be allowed to play for the national team for the first time ever. 

 

 

Yoenis Cèspedes is in the preliminary roster, too...:cheer:

 

 

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