Alpine Skiing FIS World Championships 2019

[OlympicsFan 860]

vor 3 Minuten schrieb Monzanator:

 

Speed speciallists are focused on Downhill these days, they try SG but most courses are too technical for them to make an impact so GS converts are doing better and better. Weirather, Gut & Veith are like three top "speed speciallists" who excel in SG but Tina DNF, Gut is off-form and Veith obviously injured. And you can't deny someone like Shiffrin talent. It's like 2 or 4 man bob speciallists which you maybe know better since you're a German. There are some guys who do better in 2 or 4 but some can win gold in both.

Like i always said, super g is too technical, it needs to be longer and faster. There should be no super g that lasts less than 90 seconds and no downhill that lasts less than 120 seconds, otherwise Shiffrin will keep exploiting the system. Stanmark is probably turning around in his grave seeing how easy it is nowadays for a (giant) slalom specialist to win a super g.

[Monzanator 4,768]

1 minute ago, OlympicsFan said:

Like i always said, super g is too technical, it needs to be longer and faster. There should be no super g that lasts less than 90 seconds and no downhill that lasts less than 120 seconds, otherwise Shiffrin will keep exploiting the system. Stanmark is probably turning around in his grave seeing how easy it is nowadays for a (giant) slalom specialist to win a super g.

 

But then people would complain - and they are doing it already - that it's all about gliding when the course is speed-oriented. I've read a ton of negative comments about Lake Louise which is probably the most old school course for women that it's "too boring". Then you have Bad Kleinkirchheim where even peak Vonn struggled, it was so technical and disgusting for a DH.

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40 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

Yeah, she posted it on Instagram.

 

Vlhova gold medal alert?

 

I think Holdener will take it considering her DH is a bit more solid than Vlhova’s unless mistakes happen.

[Gigs 68]

I actual think the women's super-gs are perfectly fine. The mens super-g which are usually just downhills without training runs are what's really annoying me. Why have a super-g when the people winning are exactly the same who win the downhill. I don't want all downhill specialists to be competitive in super-gs as well and on the women's side that's exactly what happened

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vor 10 Minuten schrieb Gigs:

I actual think the women's super-gs are perfectly fine. The mens super-g which are usually just downhills without training runs are what's really annoying me. Why have a super-g when the people winning are exactly the same who win the downhill. I don't want all downhill specialists to be competitive in super-gs as well and on the women's side that's exactly what happened

No absolutely not true. Dreßen for example is great in downhill but shit in super g, Ferstl is great in super g but shit in downhill. On the womens side its much easier to be good in both.

[Monzanator 4,768]

There are only few old school downhillers with Ortlieb-body type left. Paris is one and Feuz after he gained significant weight some time ago. Obviously Svindal too. But the former SG speciallists were simply Downhill guys who didn't have the Ortlieb-body type. Atle Skardal is one and Gunther Mader would have been too if only he wasn't an all-arounder in first place. That's the difference between now & then. We don't have any guys even doing 3 events (minus slalom) after Jansrud ditched GS and Carlo Janka has completely dropped off the boil. Women seem to switch to GS/SG tandem which usually was the most rare. Hell, even Bassino does SG even though she competes in AC. Maryna G-D gave up on slalom since she says she can achieve better results in Super-G. This is a momentum change, Rebensburg & Brignone found success in Super-G after being classic GS speciallists to begin with.

[Gigs 68]

vor 20 Minuten schrieb OlympicsFan:

No absolutely not true. Dreßen for example is great in downhill but shit in super g, Ferstl is great in super g but shit in downhill. On the womens side its much easier to be good in both.

So your argument is, super-gs have to be more like downhills so downhillers have less of a chance?

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I think someone here is obsessed about Staudacher's one-hit wonder last time the world champs were held in Are...

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8 minutes ago, phelps said:

I think someone here is obsessed about Staudacher's one-hit wonder last time the world champs were held in Are...

To be fair, one-hit wonders kick ass