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Badminton 2022 Discussion Thread
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On 3/25/2022 at 7:07 PM, Fly_like_a_don said:

So the Olympic silver medallists Chinese were actually a pair of fuckin cheaters. A much harsher ban should have been imposed and much earlier. They shouldn't have been allowed to participate in Olympics at all last year! 

 

https://bwfbadminton.com/news-single/2022/03/25/integrity-ruling-against-four-chinese-players/

Agreed with what you have said.

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Di Zi Jian is a MD player. It is almost impossible for him to fix the match alone or purposely lose on his own. He may need the cooperation of his MD partner to be able to do that. That is why this match fixing case is really very suspicious till now.

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https://voi.id/en/sports/134232/chinas-badminton-player-di-zijian-allegedly-involved-in-fixing-the-score-at-the-denmark-open-2021

 

What will happen to the fate of this player is unknown for now.

 

 

Click the spoiler below to read the full news.

 

 

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JAKARTA – Chinese men's doubles badminton player Di Zijian is suspected of being involved in match-fixing. That happened against the Indonesian pair at the Denmark Open last year.

 

This allegation surfaced after Zijian's ex-girlfriend uploaded a picture of a snippet of their conversation in 2021. The conversation took place the day before the competition took place.

 

The screenshot was then used by Planet Badminton as a basis for reporting on the alleged match fixing.

 

The conversation showed Zijian chose to lose the first set in the first round match of the Danish Open against the Indonesian pair Muhammad Shohibul Fikri/Bagas Maulana.

 

In return he will get 100 thousand renminbi dollars, equivalent to Rp. 225 million. However, the truth of the screenshot of the chat has not yet been confirmed.

 

However, this conjecture was strengthened by the final result that Zijian and his partner Wang Chang obtained. At that time they immediately lost in straight sets 6-21, 19-21 at the hands of Fikri/Bagas.

 

When referring to the final result, all of the conjectures seemed to match what Zijian had discussed with his ex-girlfriend in the conversation.

Besides, Zijian actually didn't like to partner with players from Zhejiang. This strengthens the allegation because Wang, who in fact is his co-star, is a player born in Ningbo, Zhejiang.

 

Zijian and Wang Chang were champions of the World Championships and Asian Junior Championships in 2018. Then in 2019 they became the main rivals for the young Indonesian couple, Leo Rolly Carnando/Daniel Marthin.

 

If this conjecture was true then Zijian's career would likely be in jeopardy.

 

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Hot news about match fixing among Chinese players.

 

 

 

Di Zi Jian, former world junior champion in mens double hit by match fixing issue when he faced Bagas Maulana / Moh Shobibul Fikri from Indonesia during round 1 Denmark Open 2021

 

 

 

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Here is the latest update.

 

Mulyo Handoyo said he is going back to Indonesia to take care of his family after his contract with Singapore ended.

 

 

 

https://www.pressreader.com/singapore/the-straits-times/20220106/282475712172630

 

LOH KEAN YEW, Singapore’s badminton world champion, on his outgoing mentor Mulyo Handoyo.

 

Coach Mulyo has helped me become a better player, sharing a lot of his experiences with me and teaching me the importance of consistency.

 

Having guided Singapore’s top shuttlers to a world title and career-high rankings, national badminton singles head coach Mulyo Handoyo will step down from his post, after a successful four-year stint that will end on Feb 4.

 

While he appears to be headed to India after Badminton Association of India (BAI) secretary Ajay Singhania told local media that the 60-year-old Indonesian had applied for the men’s singles coach position to replace Agus Dwi Santoso, Mulyo clarified that his priority was to spend time with his family after being away from them for an extended period due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

 

He told The Straits Times: “I have been away from the family for far too long and I would like to spend some time with my mother, who is now 87 years old, before I decide on the next steps.

 

“I came to Singapore with the objective of developing the national players into world-class players. Recent results have shown that there are talents in Singapore, and the SBA (Singapore Badminton Association) has the capability to help the players get there, and I’m happy to have helped lay a strong foundation for my colleagues to build on.”

 

The SBA said it is looking for a new singles head coach “who can continue the strong development of the players in the system and create a positive structure and culture for them to progress”.

 

Mulyo had earlier coached Singapore from 2001 to 2004 and guided Ronald Susilo to a careerhigh world ranking of sixth.

 

He later nurtured countryman Taufik Hidayat, who went on to become the Olympic champion at Athens 2004.

 

He signed a three-year contract with the BAI in 2017 and helped Kidambi Srikanth to four Super Series titles that year, but joined the SBA nine months later.

 

His Midas touch worked for Singapore as Loh Kean Yew won silver at the 2019 SEA Games in the Philippines before exploding into life last year, winning the men’s singles world title, while Yeo Jia Min was runner-up in the Hylo Open in Germany and made the Badminton World Federation (BWF) World Tour Finals.

 

Both players qualified for the Tokyo Olympics and broke into the world’s top 20, while secondstringers Jason Teh and Jaslyn Hooi also cracked the top 100 for the first time in their fledgling careers.

 

Men’s doubles duo Loh Kean Hean and Terry Hee and mixed doubles pair Hee and Tan Wei Han were also victorious on the BWF circuit last year.

 

“There are good players in Singapore, and they need to take on more responsibility and ownership of their training and performance... if more of them want to become more competitive on the world stage,” said Mulyo.

 

World No. 15 Loh Kean Yew was saddened by his mentor’s decision but wished him all the best.

 

The 24-year-old said: “Coach Mulyo has helped me become a better player, sharing a lot of his experiences with me and teaching me the importance of consistency.”

 

SBA chief executive officer Alan Ow said the association must now build on its recent success to take local badminton to another level, and will assess its options before deciding on the future of the national coaching set-up.

 

For the time being, national singles coach Kelvin Ho and junior squad coach Lim Theam Teow will “continue Mulyo’s good work”.

 

Ow added: “The pandemic has had a profound impact on people from all walks of life, and circumstances are especially challenging for people who are away from their families. Hence, we respect Mulyo’s decision to return to his family in Indonesia.

 

“He has made significant contributions in raising the standards of our players to another level. The coaching team also learnt so much from him.”

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6 hours ago, Dolby said:

From what I can gather, Mulyo's contract with Singapore team is till Jan or Feb. Only after that is over, we will get an official confirmation on where he is headed next. 

 

P.S. Double Olympic medallist Yong Sung Yoo has joined Prakash Padukone Badminton Academy as head coach. 

Thank you very much for your clarification.

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Meanwhile good news here. Seems like Li Jun Hui never retired from playing badminton. He is now a professional badminton player and has signed a deal with Victor as his main sponsor. Hope to see him playing in international tournament as independent player soon.

 

 

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Coaches Mulyo, Tan Kim Her to be again in India by year-end

 

I so happened to read a lot of news like this online. Somehow it is already 1st January 2022 and yet both these coaches are nowhere to be seen in India. So is it referring to end of year 2022 next? Strange?

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Well based on what is written in the article above, seriously I doubt that Mulyo Handoyo and Tan Kim Her would ever want to return to India to coach. Mulyo Handoyo even brought up the issue of Indian players bad attitude. I do not know how true it is. However, after Mulyo Handoyo had so much success in Singapore and Tan Kim Her had so much success in Japan, I have doubts that both of them would even want to return to India now.

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There is an interesting article talking about the departure of foreign coaches from India.

 

https://scroll.in/field/955600/from-limpele-to-mulyo-why-foreign-badminton-coaches-are-quitting-indian-team-before-contract-ends

 

 

Indonesian doubles coach Flandy Limpele on Saturday joined a growing list of foreign badminton coaches who have left jobs with the Indian team before the expiry of their contracts citing personal reasons.

The 46-year-old had hinted about an imminent departure a few months ago when he claimed that Indian players had a bad attitude and that is one of the reasons for the foreign coaches to quit.

While almost all of them cited personal issues as reasons to quit abruptly, there have been enough murmurs about the coaches not being happy with the freedom they get and the response from the players.

Even in the past, coaches like Atik Jauhari, Edwin Iriawan have not stuck around the national team after their initial contracts.

We take the look at the foreign coaches who have quit in the last three years, the reasons behind the move and what they are doing now.

Mulyo Handoyo

The Indonesian singles coach was credited with the rise of the men’s singles stars in 2017 which saw Kidambi Srikanth win five Superseries titles and B Sai Praneeth winning the Singapore Open.

The coach, who had also mentored the legendary Taufik Hidayat in the past, brought a substantial change in the training system of the Indian singles players, focusing more on the endurance and longer sessions after joining in February 2017 on a three-year contract.

The top singles players took some time to get used to his training philosophy but once they did, they excelled.

He, however, sprung a surprise when he left after just nine months claiming that he needed to give more time to his family. A few months after his departure, his assistant Heriawan also quit the national camp and is currently coaching in a private academy in Bahadurgarh near New Delhi.

Handoyo was quick to take up the job of Singapore head coach where he has helped Loh Kean Yew break into the world top-40.

Loh also played in the Premier Badminton League this season and insisted that it was Handoyo who had convinced him to sign up for better exposure.

Tan Kim Her

Malaysian doubles coach Tan Kim Her was probably the longest serving foreign trainer in India since Hadi Sugiyanto and it looked like he was likely to deliver on his objective of helping India win a medal in paired events at the Tokyo Olympics.

He was responsible for teaming up Satwiksairaj Rankireddy and Chirag Shetty when both the players were reluctant to do so, explained them the nuances of playing doubles at the highest stage created a roadmap for their success.

But with the arrival of Limpele and Namrih Suroto in 2019, the Malaysian wanted a long term contract till 2024 as his first stint was to end after the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. The Badminton Association of India and Sports Authority of India were reluctant to grant him a longer contract and he decided to quit citing personal reasons and join the Japan national squad, who were looking for a replacement for Reony Mainaky.

Kim Ji Hyun

South Korean Kim Ji Hyun’s stint with Indian badminton lasted just six months and her decision to quit left Indian badminton with many unanswered questions.

When Kim joined the national camp as the women’s singles coach, Saina Nehwal refused to work with her and that allowed her to work exclusively to work with Sindhu.

And when Sindhu became the first Indian world champion, she was the first to thank Miss Kim for her efforts.

But things just went downhill after that. Kim suddenly went into a shell after returning from Basel, Switzerland, and news of her husband’s ill health started doing the rounds. She quit the job immediately after claiming that she needed to look after her husband and could not continue working in India.

However, a few months later she joined AP Badminton Club in Chinese Taipei and later created a flutter by calling Sindhu “heartless” in an interview to a Korean YouTube channel.

There have been contrasting stories doing the round in Indian badminton circles with Gopichand’s detractors claiming that Kim left because of the way the chief national coach treated her and did not give her any freedom to implement her ideas or gave her credit for Sindhu’s crowning glory.

On the other hand, Gopichand’s supporters point out that she was ill and did not even work with Sindhu a week before the world championship and the coach gave her all the freedom she wanted.

The truth is probably somewhere in between.

Flandy Limpele

Limpele was probably the only coach who gave prior warning of his impending departure when he blamed the players for their ‘bad attitude’ without naming anyone.

The Indonesian was a very hard taskmaster and friction between him and the players had started soon after his arrival as the senior players felt that he wasn’t willing to give them a benefit of doubt when they complained of pain or exhaustion.

He would keep pushing them harder as he felt that the players lacked strength and fitness.

Though Limpele and BAI insisted that the reason behind his abrupt exit was the health concerns of his wife, the Indonesian almost hinted that there was more to it than meets the eye.

“I had spoken to Gopichand last Monday that I want to resign but I decided to stay back due to the All England and European tournaments but it turns out the players cancelled their trip for All England,” Limpele was quoted as saying by PTI.

“I feel doubles department is not as favourite as singles. It is unfortunate that it has less love than singles but having said that it is just one of the reasons. The main reason for my departure is personal.

“I wish all the best to the Indian team, they have good coaches.”

It is a fact that the doubles coaches feel sidelined in the Indian set up which gives more weightage to singles. They have to work with the available talent at the camps and the exposure trips available to the doubles players are far less than for their singles counterparts.

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From the posts above, it is clear cut that Yoo Yong Sung has already arrived at Prakash Padukone Academy.

 

 

Somehow there is no news stating that Mulyo will return to India and Tan Kim Her will return to India. Main reason is simple. Mulyo Handoyo has helped Loh Kean Yew to win the first MS World Championship Gold Medal for Singapore. Surely he will retain in Singapore. Then Tan Kim Her also helped Japan to win the MD World Championship Gold Medal. Surely Tan Kim Her will also stay put in Japan. Coaches might be clever nowadays. They might have just say that in order to get higher salary at the countries they are coaching now. They might be using India to bargain for higher salary. Well until the coaches have arrived in India, there is no sure thing they will be back to India.

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Badminton BWF Thomas & Uber Cup 2021
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What an exciting Uber Cup finals indeed.

 

Japan versus China (1-0)

 

WS 1 Japan

 

WD 1 China

 

 

After playing for more than 2 hours finally the winner for the WD 1 match is over. Really need a lot of long grueling energy to play such a long WD match. Anyway the commentator already pointed out that the Japanese WD especially Matsumoto is already too tired that she could not even smash anymore. Wow can someone keeps on smashing nonstop for more than 2 hours? So energy sapping indeed. Anyway good luck to the team who will win later. Seems like my energy is running out already.

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3 minutes ago, Vic Liu said:

Basically Shi Yuqi didn't say too much useful in interview. He said he suffers from continuous injuries and he felt pain. He chose to quit at the match point is to avoid unexpected injury happens. If he's really that painful then he will not be selected tomorrow but without him, our chance to win is very low.

Thank you very much for telling me.

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33 minutes ago, Vic Liu said:

Shi Yuqi is a mystery today and he’s busy quarreling with his social media’s fans right now who are accusing him should not quit at the match point. So it’s also a mystery of our tomorrow’s squad now.

You are right about it. If China is really serious about winning the Thomas Cup tomorrow they will need Shi Yu Qi to play as MS 1. I am assuming that China 3 MS players are strong enough to collect 3 winning points. It is almost impossible I think for China MD to win over rank no 1 and 2 Indonesia MD players tomorrow. On another happier note China has an extremely bright chance to win the Uber Cup. That is why if Shi Yu Qi is really injured today then he cannot play tomorrow and the MS players from China will be weak.

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