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Congratulations, i always knew that Spain would turn it around!

A lot of people (myself included) have to go back and delete their comments in this thread, otherwise they will look foolish ... Really weird turn of events, i still think it would have been smarter for Spain to eliminate Canada. Either Hungary massively choked or Spain knew from the beginning that they could turn this around whenever they wanted.

MacNeil, McIntosh and ... ? Will be interesting to see how many relays McIntosh will swim in Paris, given her packed schedule.

Not sure what to make of Gose's and Märtens' performances. Gose set a new national record, but i absolutely don't see her challenging Titmus, Ledecky, McIntosh or Fairweather in Paris. Even Li Bingjie and Pallister might be out of reach. The 1500 free seems like her best shot if she can get down to sub 15:45. Märtens was ill for many weeks and should be way off 100 %, but him only finishing 3rd without Short/Hafnaoui isn't super encouraging. It will be interesting to see if he will plan to swim the 800 free at the olympics. He will focus on the 200 free here, but in the 800 free he might be closer to a medal.

Could be a very good medal haul for the Netherlands. 8 or 9 medals in olympic events seem possible (2 medals by Schouten, 2 medals by Kamminga, 1 medal by Corbeau, 2 medals by Steenbergen, women's 4 x 100 free relay, Korstanje). At the olympics that ceiling should be 5 medals (2 x Kamminga, 2 x Schouten, 1 x Steenbergen).

If Hungary throws away this chance ...

Dishonest? Don't think that it makes sense to use that word in this situation. I think you could call it "unsports(wo)manlike". I think France had a much easier group, so you probably wouldn't even have noticed if they would have played at 80 %. I also think that Canada has more potential than Hungary, so from a spanish perspective it was smart to eliminate Canada from the olympics. Of course Spain won't be "allowed" to complain if Canada does the same to them in the future, but i guess the odds of Canada ever getting in such a position are rather small, so Spain obviously thought that it was "worth the risk".

Canada lost 2 out of 3 games, they can't complain. I think Australia might/will do the same against Serbia.

What happens if Brazil wins by 7 against Germany? I think that Brazil will win against Germany, but not sure by how much. Germany not qualifying would be a huge blow, given that they could have won by 15-20 points against Serbia and probably have more upside for Paris (given the age of their best players) than many other teams. Edit: Don't see Serbia beating Australia, but we will see.

You have to keep in mind that Germany played without their 2 best players against Australia and that even before the start of the tournament the plan was to save energy against Australia in order to be fully fit for the match against Brazil.

Event & Date Athletes Gold Silver Bronze Mixed Relay Day 1 February 7th 2024 Austria Czechia Finland France X Germany Italy Norway X Slovenia Sweden X Switzerland Ukraine United States Any Other Nation Women's Sprint Day 2 February 9th 2024 Justine Braisaz-Bouchet X Lou Jeanmonnot Julia Simon Franziska Preuss Any Other German Athlete Lisa Vittozzi Karoline Knotten Ingrid Tandrevold X Any Other Norwegian Athlete Anamarija Lampic Elvira Oeberg X Any Other Swedish Athlete Lena Haecki Gross Any Other Athlete Men's Sprint Day 3 Febrary 10th 2024 Quentin Fillon Maillet Emilien Jacquelin Any Other French Athlete Benedikt Doll Johannes Kuehn Philipp Nawrath Tomasso Giacomel Johannes Thingnes Boe X Tarjei Boe X Johannes Dale-Skjevdal X Sturla Holm Laegreid Any Other Norwegian Athlete Martin Ponsilouma Sebastian Samuelsson Any Other Athlete Women's Pursuit Day 4 Febrary 11th 2024 Justine Braisaz-Bouchet X Lou Jeanmonnot Julia Simon X Franziska Preuss Vanessa Voigt Lisa Vittozzi Juni Arnekleiv Karoline Knotten Ingrid Tandrevold X Elvira Oeberg Hanna Oeberg Any Other Swedish Athlete Lena Haecki Gross Any Other Athlete Men's Pursuit Day 4 Febrary 11th 2024 Quentin Fillon Maillet Emilien Jacquelin Any Other French Athlete Philipp Nawrath Any Other German Athlete Tommaso Giacomel Johannes Thingnes Boe X Tarjei Boe X Johannes Dale-Skjevdal X Sturla Holm Laegreid Any Other Norwegian Athlete Martin Ponsilouma Sebastian Samuelsson Any Other Athlete Women's Individual Day 5 Febrary 13th 2024 Lisa Theresa Hauser Justine Braisaz-Bouchet Lou Jeanmonnot Julia Simon X Janina Hettich-Walz Franziska Preuss X Vanessa Voigt Lisa Vittozzi Dorothea Wierer Juni Arnekleiv Karoline Knotten Ingrid Tandrevold X Elvira Oeberg Hanna Oeber Lena Haecki Gross Any Other Athlete Men's Individual Day 6 Febrary 14th 2024 Quentin Fillon Maillet Emilien Jacquelin Any Other French Athlete Johannes Kuehn Roman Rees Justus Strelow Tommaso Giacomel X Johannes Thingnes Boe X Tarjei Boe X Johannes Dale-Skjevdal Any Other Norwegian Athlete Martin Ponsilouma Sebastian Samuelsson Sebastian Stalder Any Other Athlete Single Mixed Relay Day 7 February 15th 2024 Austria Czechia Finland France Germany Italy Norway Slovenia Sweden Switzerland Ukraine United States Any Other Nation Women's Relay Day 8 February 17th 2024 Austria Czechia Finland France X Germany Italy Norway X Poland Slovenia Sweden X Switzerland Ukraine Any Other Nation Men's Relay Day 8 February 17th 2024 Austria Czechia Finland France X Germany X Italy Norway X Slovenia Sweden Switzerland Ukraine Any Other Nation Women's Mass Start Day 9 February 18th 2024 Justine Braisaz-Bouchet X Lou Jeanmonnot Julia Simon X Franziska Preuss Vanessa Voigt Lisa Vittozzi Juni Arnekleiv Karoline Knotten Ingrid Tandrevold Elvira Oeberg Hanna Oeberg X Lena Haecki Gross Any Other Athlete Men's Mass Start Day 9 February 18th 2024 Quentin Fillon Maillet Emilien Jacquelin Any Other French Athlete Johannes Kuehn Justus Strelow Any Other German Athlete Any Italian Athlete Johannes Thingnes Boe X Tarjei Boe Johannes Dale-Skjevdal X Any Other Norwegian Athlete X Martin Ponsilouma Sebastian Samuelsson Sebastian Stalder Any Other Athlete

Event & Date Athletes Gold Silver Bronze Women's 400m Freestyle Day 1 February 11 2024 Kiah Melverton Valentine Dumont Any Brazilian Athlete Ella Jensen Li Bingjie X Yang Peiqi Isabel Gose X Ajna Kesely Simona Quadarella Erika Fairweather X Eve Thomas Addison Sauickie Any Other Athlete Women's 4x100m Free Relay Day 1 February 11 2024 Australia Brazil Canada China Hong Kong Italy Netherlands South Korea Sweden United States Any Other Nation Men's 400m Freestyle Day 1 February 11 2024 Elijah Winnington Felix Auboeck Guilherme Costa Petar Mitsin Any Chinese Athlete Lukas Martens X Sven Schwarz Kristof Rasovszky Daniel Wiffen X Marco De Tullio Matteo Ciampi Danas Rapsys Kim Woomin Antonio Djakovic Ahmed Hafnaoui X David Johnston Any Other Athlete Men's 4x100m Free Relay Day 1 February 11 2024 Australia Canada China Great Britain Hungary Italy South Korea Sweden United States Any Other Nation Women's 100m Butterfly Day 2 February 12 2024 Alexandra Perkins Brianna Throssell Lana Pudar Katerine Savard Gong Zhenqi Barbora Seemanova Angelina Kohler X Anna Ntountounaki Chiharu Iitsuka Erin Gallagher Louise Hansson X Claire Curzan X Any Other Athlete Women's 200m Ind. Medley Day 2 February 12 2024 Ashley McMillan Sydney Pickrem Yu Yiting X Charlotte Bonnet Cyrielle Duhamel Abbie Wood Delma Sebestyen Anastasia Gorbenko Sara Franceschi Marrit Steenbergen X Kim Seoyeong Kate Douglass X Any Other Athlete Men's 100m Breaststroke Day 2 February 12 2024 Sam Williamson Bernhard Reitshammer Ilya Shymanovich Melwin Imoudu Lucas Matzerath Adam Peaty X James Wilby Nicolo Martinenghi X Ludovico Blu Art Viberti Denis Petrashov Casper Corbeau Arno Kamminga Berkay Ogretir Nic Fink X Jake Foster Any Other Athlete Men's 50m Butterfly Day 2 February 12 2024 Isaac Cooper Cameron McEvoy Simon Bucher Abdelrahman Sameh Benjamin Proud Stergios Marios Bilas Szebasztian Szabo Nyls Korstanje Diogo Matos Ribeiro Dylan Carter Mario Molla Yanes Michael Andrew Shaine Casas Any Other Athlete Women's 1500m Freestyle Day 3 February 13 2024 Agostina Hein Madeleine Gough Beatriz Dizotti Kristel Kobrich Li Bingjie X Yang Peiqi Anastasiia Kirpichnikova X Isabel Gose Simona Quadarella X Evie Thomas Kayla Han Kate Hurst Any Other Athlete Women's 100m Backstroke Day 3 February 13 2024 Iona Anderson Jaclyn Barclay Anastasiya Shkurdai X Ingrid Wilm X Chen Xin Lauren Cox Kathleen Dawson Maike De Waard Kira Toussaint Adela Piskorska Carmen Weiler Sastre Claire Curzan X Any Other Athlete Women's 100m Breaststroke Day 3 February 13 2024 Macarena Ceballos Abbey Harkin Any Chinese Athlete Siobhan Haughey Mona McSharry X Arianna Castiglioni Benedetta Pilato Ruta Meilutyte X Kotryna Teterevkova Tes Schouten X Dominika Sztandera Laura Van Niekerk Sophie Hansson En Yi Lettia Sim Any American Athlete Any Other Athlete Men's 200m Freestyle Day 3 February 13 2024 Kai James Taylor Elijah Winnington Felix Auboeck Lucas Henveaux Fernando Scheffer Pan Zhanle X Lukas Martens Rafael Miroslaw Duncan Scott X Denis Loktev Marco De Tullio Katsuhiro Matsumoto Danas Rapsys Hwang Sunwoo X Luke Hobson Any Other Athlete Men's 100m Backstroke Day 3 February 13 2024 Bradley Woodward Miroslav Knedla Ole Braunschweig Apostolos Christou Adam Jaszo Benedek Bendeguz Kovacs Andrew Jeffcoat Ksawery Masiuk X Pieter Coetze X Lee Juho Hugo Gonzalez Roman Mityukov Jack Aikens Hunter Armstrong X Any Other Athlete Women's 200m Freestyle Day 4 February 14 2024 Shayna Jack Brianna Throssell Valentine Dumont Ai Yanhan Li Bingjie Barbora Seemanova Abbie Wood Siobhan Haughey X Nikolett Padar X Marrit Steenbergen X Erika Fairweather Addison Sauickie Any Other Athlete Men's 800m Freestyle Day 4 February 14 2024 Elijah Winnington Guilherme Costa Marwan Elkamash Damian Joly Sven Schwarz Florian Wellbrock David Betlehem Kristof Rasovszky Daniel Wiffen X Luca De Tullio Gregorio Paltrinieri X Kim Woomin Ahmed Hafnaoui X Mykhailo Romanchuk Any American Athlete Any Other Athlete Men's 50m Breaststroke Day 4 February 14 2024 Mikel Schreuders Sam Williamson Bernhard Reitshammer Ilya Shymanovich Melwin Imoudu Lucas Matzerath Adam Peaty Simone Cerasuolo Nicolo Martinenghi Any Dutch Athlete Peter Stevens Emre Sakci Michael Andrew Nic Fink Any Other Athlete Men's 200m Butterfly Day 4 February 14 2024 Martin Espernberger Max Litchfield Ricardo Marton X Federico Burdisso Alberto Razzetti Tomoru Honda X Nao Horomura Krzysztof Chmielewski X Michal Chmielewski Arbidel Gonzalez Chad Le Clos Matthew Sates Zach Harting Any Other Athlete Mixed 4x100m Medley Relay Day 4 February 14 2024 Australia Canada China France Great Britain Hungary Ireland Italy Japan Netherlands South Africa Spain Sweden United States Any Other Nation Women's 50m Backstroke Day 5 February 15 2024 Iona Anderson Jaclyn Barclay Anastasiya Shkurdai Roos Vanotterdijk Ingrid Wilm Chen Jie Lauren Cox Kathleen Dawson Constanza Cocconcelli Maaike De Waard Kira Toussaint Adela Piskorska Claire Curzan Any Other Athlete Women's 200m Butterfly Day 5 February 15 2024 Lana Pudar X Ma Yonghui Helena Rosendahl Bach X Laura Stephens X Georgia Damasioti Boglarka Kapas Delma Sebestyen Maria Jose Mata Cocco Anja Crevar Park Sujin Rachel Klinker Any Other Athlete Women's 4x200m Free Relay Day 5 February 15 2024 Australia Brazil Canada China France Great Britain Hungary Italy Netherlands South Korea United States Any Other Nation Men's 100m Freestyle Day 5 February 15 2024 Jack Cartwright Kai James Taylor Pan Zhanle X Wang Haoyu Matthew Richards X Nandor Nemeth Szebaszstian Szabo Manuel Frigo Alessandro Miressi Cameron Gray Diogo Matos Ribeiro Hwang Sunwoo X Matt King Any Other Athlete Men's 200m Ind. Medley Day 5 February 15 2024 Finlay Knox Duncan Scott X Alberto Razzetti Riki Abe Daiya Seto Lewis Clareburt Matthew Sates Carles Coll Marti Hugo Gonzalez Jeremy Desplanches Shaine Casas X Carson Foster X Any Other Athlete Women's 100m Freestyle Day 6 February 16 2024 Shayna Jack X Stephanie Balduccini Ai Yanhan Charlotte Bonnet Anna Hopkin Siobhan Haughey X Nagisa Ikemoto Marrit Steenbergen Kornelia Fiedkiewicz Michelle Coleman Sarah Sjoestroem X Kate Douglass Any Other Athlete Women's 200m Breaststroke Day 6 February 16 2024 Abbey Harkin Gabrielle Silva Sydney Pickrem Kristyna Horska Mona McSharry Francesca Fangio Kotryna Teterevkova X Tes Schouten X En Yi Lettia Sim Sophie Hansson Lisa Mamie Kate Douglass X Any Other Athlete Men's 200m Backstroke Day 6 February 16 2024 Bradley Woodward Luke Greenbank X Broadie Paul Williams Apostolos Christou Apostolos Siskos Benedek Bendeguz Kovacs Lorenzo Mora Andrew Jeffcoat Ksawery Masiuk X Pieter Coetze Lee Juho Hugo Gonzalez Roman Mityukov X Oleksandr Zheltiakov Jack Aikens Any Other Athlete Men's 200m Breaststroke Day 6 February 16 2024 James Dergousoff Dong Zhihao X Matti Mattsson Ikuru Hiroshima Denis Petrashov Andrius Sidlauskas Miguel De Lara Ojeda Caspar Corbeau X Arno Kamminga X Carles Coll Marti Erik Persson Nick Fink Jake Foster Any Other Athlete Men's 4x200m Free Relay Day 6 February 16 2024 Australia Brazil Canada China Great Britain Italy Lithuania Poland South Korea United States Any Other Nation Women's 800m Freestyle Day 7 February 17 2024 Agosta Hein Madeleine Gough Kiah Melverton Yang Peiqi Anastasiia Kirpichnikova Isabel Gose X Ajna Kesely Simona Quadarella X Erika Fairweather X Evie Thomas Kayla Han Kate Hurst Any Other Athlete Women's 200m Backstroke Day 7 February 17 2024 Jaclyn Barclay Anastasiya Shkurdai X Ingrid Wilm Freya Colbert X Dara Molnar Eszter Szabo-Feltothy Laura Bernat Adela Piskorska Camila Rebelo Africa Zamorano Sanz Lilla Bognar Claire Curzan X Any Other Athlete Women's 50m Butterfly Day 7 February 17 2024 Any Australian Athlete Roos Vanotterdijk Katerine Savard Yu Yuting Farida Osman Melanie Henrique Angelina Kohler Anna Ntountounaki Maaike De Waard Neza Klancar Erin Gallagher Louise Hansson Sarah Sjoestroem Claire Curzan Kate Douglass Any Other Athlete Men's 50m Freestyle Day 7 February 17 2024 Isaac Cooper Cameron McEvoy X Pan Zhanle Benjamin Proud X Stergios Marios Bilas Kristian Gkolomeev Ian Yentou Ho Szebasztian Szabo Leonardo Deplano Any Dutch Athlete Ji Yuchan Vladyslav Bukhov Michael Andrew X Matt King Any Other Athlete Men's 100m Butterfly Day 7 February 17 2024 Simon Bucher Josef Miladinov Wang Xizhe Tomoru Honda Katsuhiro Matsumoto Nyls Korstanje X Jakub Majerski X Diogo Matos Ribeiro Matthew Sates Chad Le Clos Shaine Casas X Zach Harting Any Other Athlete Mixed 4x100m Free Relay Day 7 February 17 2024 Australia Brazil Canada China Hungary Italy Japan Netherlands South Korea Sweden United States Any Other Nation Women's 50m Freestyle Day 8 February 18 2024 Shayna Jack X Florine Gaspard Julie Kepp Jensen Melanie Henrique Anna Hopkin Kim Busch Marrit Steenbergen Katarzyna Wasick X Neza Klancar Michelle Coleman Sarah Sjostrom X Claire Curzan Kate Douglass Any Other Athlete Women's 50m Breaststroke Day 8 February 18 2024 Tang Qianting Yang Chang Veera Kivirinta Mona McSharry Anita Bottazzo Benedetta Pilato Ruta Meilutyte Kotryna Teterevkova Dominika Sztandera Lara Van Niekerk Sophie Hansson Piper Enge Any Other Athlete Women's 400m Ind. Medley Day 8 February 18 2024 Kiah Melverton Tessa Cieplucha Ella Jansen X Cyrielle Duhamel Freya Constance Colbert X Boglarka Kapas Anastasia Gorbenko X Sara Franceschi Ichika Kajimoto Anja Crevar Lilla Bognar Kayla Han Any Other Athlete Women's 4x100m Medley Relay Day 8 February 18 2024 Australia Canada China Hong Kong Hungary Italy Netherlands South Africa Spain Sweden United States Any Other Nation Men's 1500m Freestyle Day 8 February 18 2024 Fei Liwei Marwan Elkamash David Aubry Damian Joly Sven Schwarz Florian Wellbrock David Betlehem Kristof Rasovszky Daniel Wiffen X Luca De Tullio Gregorio Paltrinieri X Henrik Christiansen Ahmed Hafnaoui X Mykhailo Romanchuk Charlie Clark Any Other Athlete Men's 50m Backstroke Day 8 February 18 2024 Isaac Cooper Javier Acevedo Miroslav Knedla Ole Braunschweig Apostolos Christou Michele Lamberti Andrew Jeffcoat Ksawery Masiuk Andrei-Mircea Anghel Pieter Coetze Oleksandr Zheltiakov Michael Andrew Hunter Armstrong Any Other Athlete Men's 400m Ind. Medley Day 8 February 18 2024 Lorne Wigginton Zhang Zhanshuo Max Litchfield Apostolos Papastamos Balazs Hollo Alberto Razzetti X Tomoru Honda X Daiya Seto Lewis Clareburt Matthew Sates Carson Foster X David Johnston Any Other Athlete Men's 4x100m Medley Relay Day 8 February 18 2024 Australia Canada China Greece Hungary Italy Japan Netherlands South Africa Spain United States Any Other Nation

Will be interesting to see how many of the medal winners will also win a medal in Paris. I would say 1 or 2 on the men's side and maybe 1 on the women's side. Pretty much all the big names apparently didn't take this competition very seriously.

Medals were very evenly distributed, 8 nations each with 15 - 20 medals. Canada and Norway (and Switzerland) were rather disappointing. Medal winners that are most likely to shine at the 2026 winter olympics (in my opinion): Mao Shimada (women's figure skating) Shin Ji-a (women's figure skating) Angel Daleman (women's speed skating/short track) Taja Bodlaj (women's ski jumping) Ingvild Midtskogen (women's ski jumping) Lee Chae-un (men's snowboard) Eli Bouchard (men's snowboard) Yura Murase (women's snowboard) Lucia Georgalli (women's snowboard) Hanna Karrer (women's snowboard) Rise Kudo (women's snowboard) Sara Shimizu (women's snowboard) Alessandro Barbieri (men's snowboard) Flora Tabanelli (women's ski freestyle) Elizabeth Lemley (women's ski freestyle) Porter Huff (men's ski freestyle) Luke Harrold (men's ski freestyle) Charlie Beatty (men's ski freestyle) Yishan Liu (women's ski freestyle) Zihan Chen (women's ski freestyle) Finley Melville Ives (men's ski freestyle) Jingru Yang (women's short track) Jinzi Li (women's short track) Anna Falkowska (women's short track) Minji Kang (women's short track) Xinzhe Zhang (men's short track) German athletes who might have an impact at the 2026 winter olympics: Muriel Mohr (women's ski freestyle) Finn Sonnekalb (men's speed skating)

She (apparently) has bone cancer and EPO is part of her treatment.

Norway and Canada have been disappointing so far, i guess they don't care much about this event.

Great for the sport to have an elite player from China. Japan is doing pretty good at junior level as well, maybe Osaka inspired some of their younger girls. Interestingly i don't remember any remotely decent player from South Korea + Asia is pretty much irrelevant on the men's side. I think Nigeria for example also has a lot of potential.

Extremely impressive by Italy, although i think that most of their medal winners (except for Tabanelli) won't be ready come 2026. Maybe their new biathlon talents will progress better than Zingerle/Auchentaller/Passler. From a german perspective i hope that Mohr and Sonnekalb will be ready come 2026.

I think his speech got a lot of positive reviews: Quite funny that he flew commercial, while all those people who desperately want to save the climate flew private, producing infinitely more CO2 ... https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentinas-milei-heads-davos-taking-seflies-criticizing-socialist-agenda-2024-01-16/

Wären für mich immer noch zwei zu viel. Ich hoffe, dass sich im Fechten kein einziger Athlet aus Deutschland qualifiziert.

Fantomas?

Maybe, maybe not. Your comment is nonsensical, but that isn't 100 % your fault. I didn't provide a "metric" to measure the popularity. In the end the ranking depends on the "metric" we use and i think it will be difficult to agree on a "metric". You could for example look at the tv ratings, the number of followers on Instagram or the money the top stars in each sport make. I think the top stars in ice hockey make clearly more money than the top stars in handball/volleyball/rugby, but maybe i am wrong.

I think the popularity ranking of olympic team sports is as follows: Football Basketball Ice hockey Rugby/Handball/Volleyball Water polo/Field hockey Would be interesting to compare where swimming/athletics/tennis/golf/road cycling/biathlon/alpine skiing/snowboard rank in comparison.

Didn't know that "Perfect Days" was the japanese entry, given that it was made by a german director. Would have been better to enter it for Germany and to allow Japan to enter "Monster".