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Absolutely horrible organization by Hungary. This shitshow, golf carts crashing into each other injuring athletes, call room so hot that athletes almost get a heat stroke. Obviously not all world championships can be as perfect as Berlin in 2009, but this is beyond embarrassing for Hungary.

1) "Refugees are the Ukrainians. The Afgans, etc. are migrants!" Some ukrainians are refugees and some aren't. Some afghans are refugees and some aren't. The only thing i know is that you can't tell from the distances whether a random person from Ukraine/Afghanistan qualifies as refugee or not. I don't even think that you can even tell whether they are actually from Ukraine/Afghanistan. This is a completely different topic. Neither you nor any other person in Hungary can just randomly decide who qualifes as a refugee and who doesn't. I guess in the end this is just an excuse to not have to take in any people from Afghanistan. Even if i would follow your logic, i would have to ask the following two questions: a) So how many ukrainian refugees has Hungary actually taken in (compared to countries like the Czech Republic or Moldova)? b) What about people from Syria? Are those also no real refugees? Again: I have no problem with hungarian people not wanting to take in any refugees, but don't make up obvious lies. 2) "Hungary do not spend money to the migrants? Barb wire, surveillance system, vehicles (their reparation after the migrants throw them concrete pieces), border guards! EU doesn't pay anything!" I think the EU should help securing the border, but please don't act as if you are doing this for the EU. You are doing this out of your own interest. The refugees just switched to a different route and therefore all of this didn't really help other european countries. 3) "The EU buys ammunition for Ukraine! But Hungary does not supply weapons to Ukraine, so the Hungarian part goes elsewhere!" So where does the hungarian part go? Not only don't you supply weapons to Ukraine (which doesn't bother me), but you still help Russia financing the war (by buying their gas) and you are also actively sabotaging NATO. How about you just admit that Hungary is completely dependant on Russia and doesn't want to lose cheap gas? At least that would be honest. I don't blame Hungary for doing that, but don't act as if there are no alternatives for Hungary and don't act as if you don't understand that this is hurting other EU countries that transfer billions of euros every year to Hungary. 4) "If the EU spends money on migrants, every country has a share in it!" No idea what that means. So what share does Hungary have? 5) "Again! You said that every EU taxpayer has the right to know how much Orbán is getting rich. I agreed! I wrote that I would also be interested in this (migrants)!" No idea what that means. 6) "If I am correct, Germany is just building its first LNG terminal. So Russian gas would be good for Germany, but the Nord Stream somehow blew up. So Germany is forced to represent this position!" Germany has had many LNG terminals for quite some time, so your information is incorrect. Also Germany stopped buying russian gas (through Nordstream) before the pipeline was blown up. 7) "What do you think? Putin calls Orban and orders him? Putin knows Orban is not else just a pm of a small country. A trading partner." Pretty much, Orban is the light version of Lukashenko for Putin. Russia has been using gas to blackmail other countries for almost two decades. If you really believe that Hungary is just a "trading partner" for Russia, then i have a bridge to sell you ... Orban repeatedly has sabotaged the EU/NATO by taking over russian positions. You might also look into what happened with the Nabuco pipeline. 8) "You said there are landlocked countries that don't rely on russian gas! There are five landlock countries in the EU! I think Luxenburg never used russian gas. The other four: Austria and Chechia partly, Hungary and Slovakia mostly supply russian by gas. So no, the others did not solved anything!" As far as i know the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Germany stopped receiving russian gas last year because Russia couldn't accept that they support Ukraine. Italy, Austria and Hungary on the other hand still import russian gas. The difference between Italy and Hungary is that Italy plans to stop importing russian gas soon (as far as i know), while Hungary just signed a new contract to import even more russian gas. Italy is also helping Ukraine with weapons, while Hungary blocked 500 million euros of military aid in the EU. You can spin it whichever way you want, in the end Hungary is doing whatver Russia wants (blocking military aid, sabotaging EU/NATO) and in return they get cheap gas from Russia. This might be in Hungary's best interest, but please don't act as if there are no alternatives. Hungary just doesn't give a shit about any of their EU/NATO partners. I don't criticize this behavior, but i criticize EU countries like Germany for allowing Hungary to behave like that. Austria also isn't much better than Hungary. 9) "The Hungarian FM said before a cnsultation meeting he gets some sms: "Will you block it, wont you?" Yes, because the FM or Orban (in this question) do not care about the others. So that Hungary is the black sheep! Political parties won election because they said "we stop the migration!" Or this: https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/17/austria-serbia-and-hungary-strike-migration-deal-saying-eu-measures-have-failed But then: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/06/30/poland-and-hungary-hijack-eu-summit-with-anti-migration-demands Do you still believe what the politicans say?" No idea what you are trying to say. I am not sure why i have to repeat that i have no problem with Hungary not wanting to take in refugees. I have a problem with countries like Germany allowing Hungary to cherrypick. If Hungary doesn't want to take in refugees and constantly acts against the interest of other EU countries (importing russian gas, blocking military aid), then they don't need to get any money from countries like Germany. Hungary only wants the money but doesn't want to give anything in return. Poland at least took in tons of ukrainian refugees (after claiming that refugees from Syria are culturally too different), but Hungary just doesn't provide any help whatsoever. 10) "billions of euros. One explain from the many: Hungary got money from the EU to develop the trasport service of Budapest. Budapest ordered Mercedes-Benz Conecto buses, so the money went back to Germany." I couldn't find anything about this deal on the internet. Only thing i could find was a deal made by Daimler in 2012 to provide 159 Citaro busses. Doesn't sound like a huge deal, especially when you consider that Merceds has invested billions of euros in Hungary over the past few years. Not sure how much of that money actually goes back to Germany (instead of the (mostly foreign) shareholder's pockets) and benefits the german taxpayers. 11) "In Hungary the ratio of residential-industrial gas consumption is 40-60. And the German companies take part in the consumption of the cheap russian gas. Which is not that cheap than before because the Russians are not stupid!" Again no idea what that means. Could you maybe name the german companies that "take part in the consumption of the cheap russian gas"? 12) "Ahman Iliev was in Hungary four days ago. Agreed to store 50 million cubic meters gas in Hungary!" Nice to hear that Hungary is trying to diversify. I think this will make Hungary less dependant on Russia. Also nice that you have established yourself that there is an alternative to russian gas even for landlocked countries. Sounded different before, but maybe i misunderstood you.

Disappointing result for Germany and also unlucky (Stapenhorst hitting the post). Nonsense to say that Belgium is clearly better than Germany, i guess to say something like that you have to have a lot of antipathy for Germany. Sadly the german group was super weak, so they weren't really prepared for today.

Probably about as excited as european fans will be if Hughes breaks the 200 m european record.

Pathetic performance compared to those of Ingebrigtsen. BBC will hopefully talk nonstop about Burger's embarrassing performance for the next 3 days.

Indeed, grandpa Hudson-Smith obviously doesn't have as much potential as guys like Ingvaldsen or the jamaican guy, not to mention that Gardiner will probably come back.

The Netherlands could finish top 5 in the nations ranking next year, very impressive. Most impressive european nations: /

Number of top 8 finishes after today: 44 19 14 14 8 7 7 7 6 (would have been 8 if Hassan/Bol wouldn't have crashed) 6 5 5 5 5 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

Coe claimed on german TV that winning a medal in athletics is more difficult than winning a medal in any other olympic sport. What a stupid thing to say ...

Insane world championships for GB, they convert all their medal chances and even win unexpected medals. Pretty much the same happened in swimming. They are certainly among the best in the world (maybe alongside Australia) when it comes to performing at their best on day X. Of course the times in men's 400 m were pretty slow and Gardiner was clearly missing.

Very unlucky world championships for Canada (and Italy of course), all those 4th places. Luckily for them they won 2 golds, but of course those were expected.

BBC should tell Max Burger that he wasn't hired as a pacemaker ... How embarrassing for him to act like that just to then almost be lapped. He must feel really ashamed right now.

Sorry, but this discussion with you clearly leads nowhere. Either you are just uninformed or you just can't express your opinion properly in english. It is very hard/impossible to follow and you keep bringing up new things that aren't really related.

Kzczmarzczek, Bol and McLaughlin are all also very young, the same applies to them. So those 3 and Adeleke will all beat each other obviously. Young athletes always keep improving, it is a law of nature.

Could someone please create a liveticker so i don't have to wait for our british users to tell us everything the BBC said about Ingebrigtsen? Thanks!

No brit... scottish guy in men's 5000 m, obviously afraid of Ingebrigtsen's revenge.

Events will be broadcasted from tomorrow on by german TV. It is borderline insane to expect television to show FREAKING HEATS at 1 pm on a weekday (when athletics world championships and hockey european championships take place on the same day).

Always weird when you rely on the opinion of one person to make a judgement. Of course you can decide to take his words as truth, but obviously you can't expect others to then take your comment seriously. The funny thing is that athletes also complained about the missing/insufficient AC at the athletics world championships taking place in Hungary of all places right now ... Haven't read anything from you criticizing the organization of that competition, but maybe i just missed it? If we add the fact that your claim that there is no streaming was apparently also wrong and that you act as if Szeged is heaven on earth when it comes to canoeing, the most likely conclusion is that you an agenda. Sadly too obvious, maybe next time.

Interested to see what Neugebauer can do in the decathlon tomorrow. Last year he scored 200 points less at worlds than he did during the college season. If the same happens again this year he will end with 8600-8650 points. On the other hand he this time had 4 more weeks to recover, which might help him.

Looks like Germany might have a chance for a quota place in women's trap. Very surpising. Why is skeet mixed team olympic but not trap mixed team? Don't really get the reason for having individual and mixed shooting events at the olympics, seems like an overkill.

Obviously not, but the same is true in many other sports (100/200 m, swimming, track cycling, gymnastics, cross-country skiing, biathlon). Personally i would prefer if they would get rid of race walking, would free up spots for other sports/save money. If they want to keep race walking, they should at least try to make it an actual sport.

1) SB's of Josh Kerr: 2017: 3:35.99 2018: 3:35.01 2019: 3:32.52 2020: 3:34.53 2021: 3:29.05 2022: 3:30.60 2023: 3:29.38 Huge explosion after covid hit. Quite common for a lot of athletes. 2) Katir once again underperformed. 3) Progression of Olivia Gürth (same coach as Mismas and Krause): PB before 2023/SB in 2023: 800 m: 2:07.37/2:03.70 1500 m: 4:20.59/4:14.86 3000 m: 9:42.13/9:12.76 3000 m SC: 9:47.76/9:24.28 Maybe she can break the european U23 record (9:13) next year. Her and Lea Meyer both have a shot at making the top 8 next year.

1) There definitely was some interaction between them, but i think it was Kerr who initiated it. 2) Not sure if "politneness is a cultural difference" (doesn't really make sense, but i think i know what you tried to express), but the american (and apparently british?) way of acting best buddy with everyone isn't seen as "politeness" in other countries (for example eastern or northern europe). There is a difference between being polite and pretending to be polite. 3) Still don't understand why it is so important for some (british) people that everyone else congratulates them. Does your achievement have less value if others don't congratulate you or is it mostly about some people feeling the need to "remind" others that they beat them? I guess that is also a cultural thing ...

Actually there was some interaction between them. Sadly, unlike you, i was not in position to see/hear everything that happened between them after the race, so i can't say for certain what happened. Personally i never got why it is so important that everyone hugs after the race. If an athlete is disappointed after the race, he should be allowed to get some time for himself, it is not as if Ingebrigtsen actively tried to not congratulate Kerr, it just apparently wasn't a priority for him.

That obviously is the (by far) most likely explanation. I am sure that the officials are living very comfortably (in some 5 star hotel) though.