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I did a nations ranking (only olympic events) according to the FINA scoring system* (can't guarantee that everything is correct): 925 749 499 376 356 309 307 249 237 180 171 141 125 90 67 & 63 53 52 49 46 42 40 39 30 28 27 26 23 & 21 18 & 15 14 13 12 11 10 8 & & 7 6 5 4 & & & 3 & 2 1 * Scoring for individual events: 18-16-15-14-13-12-11-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 Scoring for relays: 36-32-30-28-26-24-22-20

Crazy swimming predictions ... Silver for Aoki? Silver and bronze for Ohashi? At this point i don't really see them winning more than 1 medal, but we will see.

Very impressive performance by Wumo, must be a lot of work. I think noone would have a problem if you wouldn't post all the results so quickly. Please don't put any pressure on yourself.

Absolutely don't see that happening. USA and Australia would have to massively underperform. I think beating China will be enough of a task for Canada.

Very good news, hopefully China won't choke.

Kevric, Roth und Baievych waren die vielversprechendsten Talente. Kevric hätte mit etwas mehr Glück auch alle ihre Wettbewerbe (6 Goldmedaillen) gewinnen können. Gut möglich, dass wir mindestens eine der dreien nächstes Jahr in Paris wiedersehen.

Sad to see that Germany is in a good position to qualify many relays. Both the german swimming and athletics federation are using the completely wrong strategy (if their goal is/would be to improve their athletes). They should only nominate relays if they are really competitive (if 4 athletes have the individual standard or if the average of the 4 fastest athletes is faster than the individual standard). It is even worse in athletics, where you often only have to be the 6th fastest athlete (100 m or 400 m) to qualify, while other athletes (for example in long jump) have to be among the absolute best in the world to qualify. This strategy "destroys the market". If athletes see that they can get their reward that easily if they focus on the "relay distances", they won't switch to other distances (100/400 m hurdles/200 m) where they might have the chance to rank higher internationally (but a smaller chance to qualify, since those distances don't have relays). You are basically preventing the "most efficient distribution of resources" by this nomination policy. GB is chosing the right strategy and it has been paying off (Men's 4 x 100/200 free relay, apparently now women's 4 x 200 free relay as well). I guess Germany can't do this because then it would become even more apparent what a horrible job the coaches are doing (Less relays = Less qualified athletes, no relays = no reason to have specific training camps for relays in warm countries during pre-season ...), so they can't/won't change the policy because they would hurt themselves.

Surprising bronze for Canada, i thought that China would take it. Kind of depressing for the other countries that Canada wins bronze without having a decent breast/free leg.

Not sure how many swimming fans care about track cycling, but swimming fans should care about the U23 european championships. Guys like Märtens or Wiffen will compete.

More than a second slower than her PB, the trend is obvious for anyone who is able to look at her objectively. Her 200 m races were both PBs while her 400 m races were both at least a second behind her PB.

Miracle year for France. Before this year they were complete trash in men's medley relay and now they found a fast fly and breast leg. Always amazing when nations just switch it on for their home olympics.

McIntosh will learn from this competition. PBs in both 200 m races (200 fly, 200 free) and rather "off" in the two 400 m races (400 IM, 400 free). The 200 free seems like the most difficult race for her to win next year.

Wellbrock has to decide what he wants his legacy to be. I think he has to recognize that he has to decide between open water and the pool. Winning a gold in the pool would be much bigger for his legacy than winning another open water gold in my opinion. I wish he would decide to only compete in the 800/1500 free next year, but sadly that doesn't seem likely. Märtens should probably focus on 2 or at most 3 events. He should definitely either drop the 200 free or the 1500 free.

So far GB has always won 2 medals when they had 2 individual finalists, don't see that continuing in women's 400 IM.

The morrocan guy is probably the most obvious case since Mellouli. Improving your PB by 30 seconds is insane for an age group swimmer, but completely unbelievable for someone of his age. This guy has never before done anything in the 800/1500 free long course. He is mediocre at best all season long and then completely smashes it at worlds. He becomes the 2nd fastest guy ever out of nowhere (ahead of guys like Paltrinieri, Wellbrock, Romanchuk or Hackett) and makes Finke look like a turtle, who himself has always made everyone else look like turtles. I hope that the german coach finds an answer to this. Wellbrock and Märtens won't stand a chance against the moroccan guy, Finke and Short unless they go all out with their doping program as well. If they aren't willing to do that, they should just retire and save the tax payers their money.

Why? This german team is trash, both France and Brazil would be the huge favorites.

European fans can look forward to the U23 European championships and the athletics U20 European championships, so maybe less reason to be sad.

The fight for bronze in the women’s medley relay might turn out to be more exciting than expected. China is still the favorite, but maybe Canada or Sweden can challenge. GB not making the final is somewhat surprising, but in the end they don’t really have any outstanding legs. Both their breaststroke and their butterfly leg were pretty slow.

Actually somewhat deserved for not using Miressi in prelims. They still should have beaten Germany and Canada. In the end they wouldn’t have won a medal anyways.

Interesting result in women's volleyball. Slovenia vs. Germany in the final, seems rather unexpected. Not sure what happened to Italy, Serbia, Poland and Turkey.

I think it was you who started with what-ifs ... I agree that 5 medals would be very good next year, not sure if i agree that 2 medals would be a complete disaster. It might be a complete disaster based on what italian fans have gotten used to, but in my opinion Italy could win "only" 2 medals without underperforming. I don't know how much money Italy puts into swimming, so that might also have an influence on whether you consider 2 medals a disaster.

Pretty unlucky results for Germany in the tennis tournament. McDonald getting injured cost him a (gold) medal chance in the individual and the double. On the women's side the german athletes were unlucky to run into athletes from the Czech Republic in both the individual and the double competition in the quarterfinal already.

Apparently women's shot put was won by Nafy Thia M from Belgium ...

1) If Martinenghi swims 0.01 slower, he doesn't medal. 2) In the men's 4 x 100 free relay Italy might as well have finished 4th (behind GB and the US) 3) In men's 200 free the 10th place was a huge success for De Tullio. You shouldn't forget that multiple faster guys flopped or didn't even compete (Märtens, Pan, Marchand). 4) In men's 200 fly you shouldn't forget that Milak didn't compete, otherwise Razzetti would have been 0.5 seconds away from the final. 5) In men's 200 IM multiple faster guys flopped or didn't compete (Wang, Qin, Kos). 6) Not sure if Franceschi would have made the final if McKeown, Pickrem, Wood and McIntosh would have competed/not been disqualified as well. 7) Poggio was unlucky, not sure how close he would have been to the final if Peaty and Imoudu would have competed (not to mention the two russian guys and Shymanovich who were missing as well). Before this year i would have expected Italy to definitely to better, but in my opinion 4 medals is pretty much a perfect result for them given where they are at right now. I would give the following italian athletes a chance to medal next year: Maybe Miressi (100 free) Maybe Galossi (400/800 free) Men's 4 x 100 free Maybe men's medley relay Martinenghi (100 breast) Ceccon (100 back, maybe 100 free) Quadarella (1500 free) Pilato (100 breast) I think 2-6 medals are realistic in my opinion (Quadarella, Ceccon, Martinenghi + X).

The Netherlanda with 8 individual finals in olympic events, as much as Germany and one more than Italy. Italy could also get to 8 tomorrow if Franceschi makes the final in women's 400 IM. Very good result in terms of medals for Italy if we consider this. Italy: 7 individual finals, 4 medals Germany: 8 individual finals, 1 medal Hungary: 7 individual finals, 1 medal Japan: 10 individual finals, 1 medal