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  1. Yes, NBC cannot dictate when the games will be held. And it's not discussed with the IOC when a city is bidding for the Olympics as that city decides what dates they propose to hold the games. However.. bidding for the right to host the Olympics is usually a popularity contest about convincing the autocrats of the IOC to get in bed with you. Looks like the Australians know how to play that game... Queensland in race for 2032 Olympics after state government confirms bid Ms Palaszczuk said the games, which would run from July 23 to August 8 in 2032, would provide legacy benefits for "generations to come". So much for options. NBC money wins out
  2. NBC has little to no control over when the Olympics are held. They don't want to air them against another event, but then again, neither will European countries when there's a major football tournament going on and a tennis major. That's why we're likely to see the Games in approximately the same time window as they would have been in 2020. This also gives the sport federations and the athletes the proper lead up time to prepare for the Games as well
  3. World Athletics will likely follow closely behind.
  4. There was no Paralympics in 1964. So those would get pushed to November. And if we're talking about 2021, then that's way too close to Beijing 2022
  5. Not delusional. They need to work through the legal aspects of this so the IOC doesn't sue them for breach of contract that they couldn't host the Olympics in 2020. They know it's getting postponed. Everyone knows.
  6. Is it too late to change my nation to something a little more neutral than the United States? We're all living through this in the moment. By next summer, no one is going to remember when the Olympics got postponed or who made the decision or who lobbied for it. Pound spoke out to shut up the English-speaking world from making the IOC look bad by saying they won't send athletes this Summer. Yes, I think everything knows the Olympics are getting postponed. Need to re-work all the contracts. Once that happens, the IOC can tell everyone. But if you're looking for evidence of who really runs the IOC, this isn't it.
  7. So is there a reason no one is discussing this right now?... 2020 Tokyo Olympics Will Be Postponed Due to Coronavirus, Says IOC's Dick Pound
  8. That's some of the best and most rational analysis I've seen on this yet. Thank you for sharing! 2021 seems like the most logical option. Moving the Olympics to 2022 puts them in the same calendar year as both the Winter Olympics and the Youth Olympics, not to mention it would displace both the Commonwealth Games and the Asian Games. 2021 therefore is the better solution as they already deal with World Athletics and FINA, so ti inconvenience them is easier than 2 organizations they don't have direct involvement with. Plus that has to be easier for the Tokyo organizers to not have to wait an additional year.
  9. Well, that hits every network. The NFL is in a real bad spot because they just signed off on a new collective bargaining agreement which was supposed to pave the way for massive increase in television rights fees. That's going to be a much tougher negotiation now with the economy in shambles.
  10. I said it upthread.. I don't think NBC has much influence over this decision. They're hurting just like everyone, but right now, this is in the IOC's and the OCOG's hands. Japan wants to put on the best Olympics they can. NBC's rights fees are already locked in. Will certainly be tougher for them to sell advertising in a weaker economy (same thing happened in the lead-up to Vancouver 2010), but little they can do about that
  11. It'll probably hurt Japan more than it hurts the IOC. Might hurt China as well, but somehow, I think they'll figure out a way to survive
  12. Cowardly, yes. Corrupt? Not necessarily because of this. Bach hasn't done the best job of expressing to the world the intentions of the IOC. I think everyone involved knows that postponement is inevitable, but it takes time to get everyone on board to make sure that's followed through properly for all interested parties. With all due respect to Canada, they're one nation out of 200+ (I will say the exact same thing about the United States who has also been chirping). I think the back breaker was Seb Coe. When he's saying to move to postpone the Olympics as head of the most prominent sports federation involved in the Games, that carries a lot of weight.
  13. I don't want to speculate because I don't exactly trust the leadership of this country to know what the hell they're doing and to be able to help manage the situation. As for Japan.. this crept up on them pretty fast, but I think reality is finally setting in that they have to make this work. Although I'm betting they'll be cursing out the Chinese plenty for unleashing this plague on the world and then screwing up their best laid plans.
  14. At this point, I'm already working under the assumption that there will be no Olympics in 2020 and the 4 week timetable is merely to decide when they will be postponed until. So that's necessarily a bombshell. Goes along with everything that's being reported and what I'm reading on Twitter
  15. Did you miss that the IOC put out a statement?... HEALTH AND SAFETY PARAMOUNT AS IOC EXECUTIVE BOARD AGREES TO STEP UP SCENARIO-PLANNING FOR THE OLYMPIC GAMES TOKYO 2020 And even more recently.. World Athletics call on IOC to postpone Tokyo 2020 because of coronavirus crisis
  16. It's currently the middle of the night in Japan. Wonder about the timing of such an announcement, if it comes from Japan or from IOC headquarters in Lausanne
  17. Good read from Inside the Games on what the IOC is dealing with these days.. Michael Pavitt: IOC must act responsibly for Japan as well as athletes over potential Tokyo postponement
  18. 1 - What phelps said. The agreement between USC and the city of Los Angeles is that they can do whatever they want to the Coliseum so long as they make it available for the Olympics. Again, this means they just spent nearly $300 million on renovations to improve the stadium with little regard for hosting athletics, which will require an additional $300 million for the temporary overlay. I was there for the first time a few years ago visiting a friend in LA. For a building that's nearly a century old, I'm moderately surprised it's still standing. That there's public transportation there helps, so that will be a key selling point during Games time. 2 - Half the ceremonies is not a small deal. Debatable how much Kroenke and his interests will be involved, but now that he's firmly planted himself into the LA landscape, I'm sure he'll do what he can to capitalize on the Olympics being in LA. Remember, SoFi is his stadium. He owns and operates it, as opposed to the Coliseum which is owned by the city. 3 - Depends if it's a new arena or a replacement for the Forum, which right now is slated to host gymnastics. I agree with phelps that I've never been a big fan of the current plan for swimming. Not sure a new arena would be an option if if displaced gymnastics, but it's an interesting theory.
  19. Funding for all things Olympics works differently in the United States than virtually anywhere else in the world. Everything is privately funded as opposed to being underwritten by the government. So yes, that gives them a good chance at success that they don't need to rely on government funding except for contingency purposes. As for USC, the NCAA had nothing to do with funding for the Coliseum renovations. All that money was raised by USC from donations and sponsorship. The crazy thing is that they spent close to $300 million on it and it's going to cost another $300 million to make the stadium ready to host athletics in 2028. The NCAA will have little to nothing to do with the Olympics. This isn't their show and they likely won't have a play to play. The thing to remember with Kroenke is that he didn't move the Rams to LA until early 2016. So he wasn't a part of the original plans for the bid. A nice added bonus for sure, and yes, he and his stadium will become a big part of things, I'm sure. There's a lot of public infrastructure projects going on in LA. Some of which are now tied to delivery of the Olympics in 2028. So there are potential pitfalls there in terms of money spent that won't show up in the Olympic budget. As opposed to with other cities where those expenses do fall on the OCOG. Sometimes it's too much. Rio and Athens most notably where the legacy plans weren't that great. But don't lump those cities in with Barcelona, which is the ultimate story of an urban revival tied to an Olympics. I know locals there aren't always too thrilled with the amount of tourism that took over the city afterwords, but it's the perfect example of right city, right place, right time. Unfortunately, no other city is likely to ever pull that off again.
  20. The United States and France are able to willing to host because they have the majority of the needed facilities already in place without having to spend billions to build new venues with no planned use for after the Games. That was the problem with cities like Rio and Athens which in hindsight were poor choices to be Olympics hosts. Hosting the Olympics will lose money if it's planned and executed poorly. Unfortunately, it's extremely difficult to plan and execute them well. Let's see how that works out for Los Angeles in 2028 where the baseline for them will be the 1984 Olympics which made a profit. And it's hard to measure the long-term benefits of hosting an Olympics. Ask LA 1984 and Barcelona 1992 how that worked out for them. What we're seeing with the Winter Olympics is that the only cities that might want to host now are those with facilities in place. Which for the most part means cities that have host an Olympics before. Somehow, Italy stayed in the running for 2026, but they have many of the needed venues already in place. Yes, if no one else bids, maybe Qatar offers up a trillion dollar bid and the IOC has said yes (although after the impending disaster that is the 2022 World Cup, let's see how that goes after that).
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