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Get ready for the most random ass Lithuanian votes that you'll probably ever be a witness of

I might be in the minority, but I would love for them to try and steamroll at least once, especially since some others were never holding back at all The UK are really holding back as well, when they have some iconic acts under their belt. Yes, they tried with Ed Sheeran, but probably in the worst Ed Sheeran music era The first three albums were the way to go

Of course it would be Ireland to break the boy band curse

Thank you @dophuquy for the four points!

Yes, we're coming back into this contest when you least expect it

Nah, I really want to manifest the four straight top 10s Lithuanian era So far what I've learned is that commercially successful music from Lithuania never works Music in Lithuanian never works, but also sometimes rarely works Music from Jazzu can win you a contest, but can also land you outside of top 20 Music from me can be the worst performance in Lithuanian history or close to a top 10 Alternative music from Lithuania only works to appease @Wanderer Jazz/soul/r&b music from Lithuania works to appease no one. How do you even go back to the drawing board and choose something

You already said it could happen last contest and it didn't happen. Won't trust it till I see it

Gained points, but still fell down in the rankings. Love that for us

Ah, 3 points for Lithuania, finally we're not starved in session 2 Thanks @Bohemia or @Benolympique , I'd assume this was not one of the two songs you had in common

Called it Denmark was such an obvious choice for @Wanderer Would've been shell shocked if they didn't score.

Felt like I had to scroll through my Instagram archive for years to find this This is the bell pepper stir fry, with chicken, pineapple, bonduelle corn in sweet & sour sauce, the only interchangeable ingredient in the dish is that I use either green beans, red beans or in this case I used edamame

I'm almost certain Denmark (8) is coming up. Lithuania too mainstream to hope for anything from you this time

I really wonder who you thought that was

Best brand of corn there is, without a doubt. They don't beat fresh corn on the grill or freshly boiled, but they are my first and only choice for fried rice or my signature bell pepper stir fry

I believe I already shared it when this meme first originated, but we literally have a song by a local band called "Tangerines". And the lyrics would roughly translate to Tangerines are cool Tangerines are cool Tangerines are cool My head does not hurt from them It's an absolutely awful song, but with how today is panning out, it would probably do better than anything that I've sent in the last 5 years...

Feels that Lithuania is heading straight for another "meh" performance

Yeah, there's not enough of "mass appeal" type of entries to really cause confusion. For the life of me, I could never tell you who's gonna be second or third, or fourth, but for the win, I have a good feeling it's Caro

I think that Caro Emerald will probably win for The Netherlands again. The song is very similar to the song that she won with and there's not really any other "super" contender that would get enough points from many juries to contend as we get later into the day. Would be somewhat surprised if anybody else took it. Unless people didn't vote for Caro on the sheer notion that this artist won before

Thank you for points to the Lithuanian entry @ManuCHIL @Fly_like_a_don and someone from the Brazilian jury @vinipereira @brunamoura @titicow

Hauser and Davidova should look good too, I bet

I thought that it was Algeria, but didn't want to go in on them since I wasn't sure One of the weirdest submissions. It's very unlikely that I score 6 minute songs well, because those that go 6, 7 minutes and more are usually bad in the very first 30 seconds and you can't expect me to listen through the whole thing and do it 5-7 more times until I decide what points it could get. It makes me think that those artists were surrounded by 'yes men' that wouldn't warn them that the song isn't very good, yet they made a 7 minute version from it, when it could've been less painful as three, or not released at all The only way I see 6 minute songs doing really well, it's what's somewhat prominent in the music industry as the album closing track, which usually have a lot of different motives to not get boring, long intros-outros, build-up and very keen on instrumental parts, it's always interchanging to introduce the listener with something new every 15-20 seconds. Some of the best examples that come to mind right now would be Harry Styles "Fine Line", All The Luck In The World "Abhainn", Adele's "Love Is A Game", "Goodnight, Travel Well" by The Killers. It's mostly used as a treat for fans and for artistic expression, but it's at the end of the album, to not disrupt the flow of the album and to weed out the people that don't like you enough to get through a 6-7 minute song from you. If it's your very first time listening/being introduced to an artist, the last thing you want to hear is a 7 minute rendition and it's not the type of song that helps you discover an artist, because no radio, nor playlist will ever pick it up. It's not an album ending track surprisingly, but I'll also use this opportunity to shout-out "Spanish Sahara" by The Foals. Brilliant way to use 6+ minutes, not only the lyrics, but the music tells a story as well. Not surprised it blew up after getting picked up as soundtrack for "Life Is Strange".

I went to my Spotify playlist fully assuming to not find much if any songs above 5 minutes and I was surprised DiHaj "Complain" and Daft Punk's "Instant Crush" both land in the 5:30-6:00 category, which could explain why this time frame looks good on the graph. But you have to take these stats with a grain of salt, both because the sample size of 5+ minutes songs is most certainly massively massively smaller than songs between 3:00-4:00, which probably would make 60% of entries alone. The 0:00-2:30 sample size is probably like three songs and since I remember two of them, I'm not surprised Lastly, if these stats were garnered through the use of Youtube, I'd imagine that 30s+ credit outros were not taken into account and were not substracted from the song length making some songs longer than they were. Nor were the entries that had entire movie scenes in the middle of their songs or that one entry (don't remember if it was approved) that was a full mash up of two completely different songs. To really get ahold of some results based analysis, we'd need a stats connoisseur to take the top 5 from every contest and then see which song length is mostly preferential and accumulated the most success. I'd imagine it probably being the 3:30-4:00 sweet spot, or more likely 3:15-3:40 for Annual and 3:40-4:15 for Open.

In regards to Eurovision, I started writing songs since 11 y.o. and they used to drag on for a very long time, lots of 4-5 minute songs early on. I grew up in the day & age where 4 minutes were the standard, especially in the indie, rock, alternative scene that had one of its peak popularities in late 90s, early 2000s As I grew older and gained more experience as a songwriter, I was able to cut down on the time for the songs that I wrote, but I still remember questioning the Eurovision 3 minute rule, because it was impossible to tell a good story in three minutes, right? Many Eurovision songs have to cut second verses, perhaps they skip the pre-chorus, not many of them tend to have a bridge and double-chorus at the end has become less and less popular over time, to give yourself time for more creative decisions in the first half of the song. Cut to 2020 when I had to write 24 songs for Eurovision 2021, I found myself so comfortable in a three minute format that I had trouble writing longer songs after Eurovision was done All in all, we've selected the tracks for my album a couple of months ago and only two songs extend over 4 minutes if there are no unsuspected changes. So it really feels that I had to evolve with the times, because I honestly remember my younger self with a mindset that four minutes is the best length for a song if you want to tell a compelling story. Nowadays there's less & less of a necessity for a compelling story as it's mostly important how it flows musically and you having a very good 8-20 second hook that will get you places on TikTok & Instagram stories.

I'd assume though that for the Annual contest separately, it's closer to three minutes for everyone? Very rare nowadays to see a 4 minute + song in the pop scene, even alternative music doesn't tend to drag on as long. People don't have the attention span anymore, so the music industry is trying to get you hooked quick before you press the skip button. If you don't reach the first chorus by 30-45 seconds, it's already somewhat of a danger zone. I'm in a bit of a dilemma, where I went to my Spotify liked tracks a couple of months ago and most of them were 4 minutes and longer, but when I'm focusing on my writing (for myself and other artists), the sweet spot has become 2:30-3:30, edging ever so closer to the under 3 minute mark. Some good examples would be some recent pop releases like: Harry's House by Harry Styles, clocking in at 41m:59s with thirteen songs - two songs over four minutes, the rest close to three. CHARLIE by Charlie Puth, clocking in at a very low 33m02s with 12 songs - only five songs are over three minutes, Charlie has been spending most of his days on TikTok, so he really knows how to tap into the younger audience. Midnights by Taylor Swift, clocking in at 44m08s with thirteen songs - only two song over four minutes as well. And before Taylor breaking the Billboard Top 100, the top 10 songs were: "Unholy" by Sam Smith and Kim Petras at 2:36 "Bad Habit" by Steve Lacy at 3:52 "As It Was" by Harry Styles at 2:47 "California Breeze" by Lil Baby at 2:57 "I Like You" by Post Malone and Doja Cat at 3:12 "I Ain't Worried" by One Republic at 2:28 "You Proof" by Morgan Wallen at 2:37 "Forever" by Lil Baby and Fridayy at 2:47 "Super Freaky Girl" by Nicki Minaj at 2:50 "Real Spill" by Lil Baby at 3:18 Adele is really one of the A-list pop stars that can still transcend any trends, clocking in a 58m18s album with only twelve songs, five of them over 6 minutes, but her first two singles from the album were under 4 minute tracks anyways.

Well, I've met Mamontovas (lead vocalist) on a few occasions, haven't really spoken to him though. I don't know if it's our age gap, but he's not a super approachable fellow Probably doesn't help that I have social anxiety either