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18 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

The "different competition" is not selected by the german swimming federation. Athletes have to select one of the following two meets within one week after the end of the german nationals: Mare Nostrum Tour or German Open (beginning of July in Berlin)

If they dont swim the required times there as well, then they dont qualify.

 

International times at the german nationals:

Mens 1500 free: 15:01.18 for Felix Auböck

Womens 800 free: 8:40.51 for Julia Hassler

Womens 400 IM: 4:46.01 for Martina van Berkel

 

I dont know if those times are good enough to qualify ... ?

Only Austria's time was fast enough for the A (OQT) standard, the other two were OST times

6 minutes ago, uk12points said:

Will the South African men's singles quota be reallocated to Uganda?

It depends on whether the tripartite quotas plus quotas from potential athletes which have withdrawn are reallocated. Technically South Africa can qualify through the world rankings without the stipulation of being the highest ranked African nation which means the NOC will accept him.

15 minutes ago, MantaRaymarc said:

FYI. Felix Auböck is not from Germany, He's from Austria.

Thanks

The German swimming trials have begun and will last until Sunday. Qualifying to the German swim team has two phases. First they must reach the qualifying times at the prelims and finals (prelims have easier times) then they must reach another qualifying time (easier than final) in a different competition selected by the German swimming federation (you can only attempt to qualify in one). Thus athletes listed here will essentially be considered to be on the long list with the final list to be determined likely at the end of June/beginning of July.

Germany Long List Qualifiers – Day 1

Men’s 1500m Freestyle – Florian Wellbrock

Men’s 400m IM – Jacob Heidtmann, Johannes Hintze

Women’s 800m Freestyle – Sarah Kohler, Leonie Beck

Women’s 400m IM – Franziska Hentke

13 minutes ago, MHSN said:

 

History is against him, we never qualified a wrestler in last world qualifier lol, we never had a full Greco team but this time indeed he has a good draw, unlike Astana and Ulanbaatar. but there is one serious problem for him, the Israeli guy.

 

btw people should know Sourian is the biggest athlete in Iran at the moment, and one of the best wrestlers of all time. for some non-sport reasons he has also so many enemies here in Iran waiting him to lose . that's why he was always under huge pressure but this time and this week he got much more support and headlines changed from "Sourian lost AGAIN" to "win or lose you are always a hero"

 

Is there any chance that Sourian will defy his federation and fight against Tsaryuk (should he reach the semis)? Or will he have no choice?

I don’t think this thread needs to be made. While some nations and athletes should be looked down at buying/selling their nationality the vast majority that get targeted are immigrants which came before they even began taking the sport seriously or athletes whose parents or grand-parents were citizens of that nation. Quite often things turn into a witch hunt. Look at what happened in 2012 with “Plastic Brits” issue.

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52 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Well perhaps the fact that they never competed outside of athletics helped (Saint Kitts and Nevis is the only other such country, even Mauritania is not on that list). Plus, this is certainly the only sport they applied for so it was on top of their priority list.

 

Meanwhile, I'm actually happy that Macedonia didn't get it. Their girl may be the highest ranked, but their girl is actually Croatian who switched to Macedonia because she can't make our team. It would be very wrong if wild cards are given to athletes like her.

True, plus the tripartite commission looks at all sports at the same time. I wish the commission would publish the list of nations which applied to each sport. It would be interesting to see which nations applied

Australia's Marc Leishman has withdrawn citing Zika virus fears.

Also New Zealand won't get the reallocation in the doubles because they are not in the top 50. Plus US must decide which doubles it must drop, giving Canada a pair of athletes (most likely it'll be the men).

Somalia is the bigger shocker (you could at least sort of defend the others), it was a very competitive weightclass. Even if it had to be an African athlete did Central African Republic, Benin, Madagascar, Congo DR, Togo, Sao Tome and Principe, Sudan, Swaziland or Lesotho not apply? Especially Central African Republic which was one win away from qualifying.

Don't trust Wikipedia. First Cuba hasn't qualified a team quota in the men. Brazil is given the Latin America spot (since it is the highest ranked Latin American nation), the host quota goes to Russia. Also 6 more individual quotas are handed out though the individual rankings due to there being extra spots from from the team quotas.

2 hours ago, hckosice said:

 

well, In some way you´re right, last time we had a non-NHL tournament was the Lillehammer 1994, and yes oh god, it was an exceptional and fantastic tournament during one unrepeatable awesome olympics.

but in other hand, It would be very sad. It´s a fabulous tournament we are all wainting for 4 years, so it would be unfortunate to don´t see the top players in such holiday. The olympics should be a event for mainly the best athletes in the sport.

I agree. My (unlikely) hope would be for the players whose contracts are set to expire between now and the Olympics force the teams to put in a clause to allow them to participate in the Olympics. Stamkos would be a great person to approach about this. His contract is expired after this season and he hasn’t played at the Olympics. He was controversially left out in 2010 (“too young”) and in 2014 he was injured.

It will cause quite the media stir, but at the same time teams will still want to sign him because he’s Stamkos.

1 hour ago, hckosice said:

Most likely the Ice hockey tournament will be without NHL players. René Fassel the president of the IIHF said that it´s very unlikely that we will have the NHLers in Pyeongchang...http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/international/ct-nhl-olympics-pyeongchang-20160503-story.html

 

so maybe South Korea will win a medal in ice hockey then

 

 

It won’t be that bad. While all of the top nations will suffer, especially the United States the European leagues still have decent players. If they can convince the AHL to suspend their season during the Olympics things will look a lot better too.

South Korea has announced its initial team after their Olympic Trials. In total 5 women have been selected. I imagine they will add more, but I don't know their internal evaluation.

Yeah, their formula is sometimes weird and they completely ignore non-result things that could be important such as retirements or in some cases whether or not the athlete actually qualifies. I don't blame them too much, it's hard keeping track of over 1000 athletes.

4 minutes ago, dcro said:

I think it's safe to assume that New Zealand won't be sending weightlifters, even if they do qualify.

New Zealand has always been inconsistent about their standards. They sent a male athlete in 2012. I guess their argument was that their athlete could finish in the top 16 (he finished 14th though there were many DNFs)

5 minutes ago, uk12points said:

It must be super-competitive for a Weightlifting wild card! I expect every eligible oceanian nation other than Vanuatu has probably applied for a wild card.

 

Hopefully, a few of them can qualify at the continental championships, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, Samoa and Fiji have a big chance to qualify on the women's side, along with Australia and  New Zealand of course. For the men Nauru and Kiribati have good chances to qualify as well.

Pretty much. Australia will likely qualify in both the men and women. New Zealand would be on the edge. PNG, Samoa and Fiji will be the top nations in both genders. Kiribati will be the favourite to take the men's quota. The other nations will end up in a fight for wild cards. Cook Islands and Solomon Islands are more likely to get a women's wild card. Marshall Islands too, but I see their chance being less likely. On the men's side Nauru will be the massive favourite (Kiribati too should they fail to qualify). Micronesia will likely be given a spot. After that things get muddied. Tuvalu and Palau's lifter are essentially their most notable athlete while American Samoa and Tonga have a better team on average. Guam and Vanuatu will end up being a non-factor.

This is also ignoring potential wild card athletes from Africa (Libya and Madagascar will be big favourites in the men should they not qualify) and Pan America.

22 minutes ago, intoronto said:

Hope  is a reallocated a spot. They have a young talent who almost become wprld youth champ a couple years ago. On their team is also a multiple time Commonwealth Games medalist and a gold medalist from Melbourne.

They are probably the most likely Asian nation to get one (provided that they applied), but there is going to be a lot of competition from the Pacific nations. Almost every single one will apply for a quota and with no athlete in an individual ranking position the competition will be even greater.

I decided to see what it would look like if we expand the women's individual qualification to top 15. Currently 9 athletes and 6 new nations would be added to the five already listed. From the total five are from European nations; Azerbaijan (ranked 1), Georgia (13), Latvia (13), Norway (15) and Moldova (15). In Africa Nigeria (7, 14, 15) is pretty much guaranteed to qualify through the team rankings along with Cameroon (10) while Mauritius (15) will have a chance should they send a full team. In Oceania Samoa (10, 13) will be a heavy favourite. In Pan America both Canada (7) and Chile (14) should qualify as well.

So even expanding to the top 15 we have a chance at not filling the seven quotas.

I think it's time to allow the top 15 women be eligible for individual quotas. We still have three continental qualifiers to go and we're already at less than seven and there's a good chance that only Azerbaijan's Boyanka Kostova will be eligible at the end.

8 minutes ago, DaniSRB said:

Australia chose canoeing team and looks like they refused one women's quota, Palau should be next in line to get it

 

but as dareza said, with ICF you never know

The final women's spot on the Australian team will be decided in an event occurring from May 20th to May 22nd.

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1 hour ago, DaniSRB said:

We can also remove 

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55 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Hopefully Syria can pull it off here. They are most likely going to compete only in athletics and swimming if they fail here, what would be sad.

If they don't Syria will have a chance to get a tripartite quota along with Sri Lanka (provided that they applied). Though the sport has a lot of competition due to Oceania nations.