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18 hours ago, dantm said:

SOPAC is nearly 30 years old but its still a fantastic pool.

it was designed based on those parameters from that article.

 

Definitely wouldve been a better option than Chandler.

 

 

It was fun having them in Chandler and ultimately trials is about qualifying, so slower pool isn’t a bad thing for those who qualified. The people it hurts is those who just missed the QT

21 hours ago, Cinnamon Bun said:

No you are right, the way you interpret it is correct. By the way since your new here, feel free to correct me whenever I've said or interpreted something factually wrong. I'm not very good at interpreting things and often do so wrong.  

Haha no all good! I don’t make a habit of correcting people but yeah I was pretty sure I was right on this one

5 hours ago, dantm said:

Most of the men at trials didn't seem rested enough. Temple only recently went 50 low and there is no reason he cannot replicate in Paris.

The double taper with Trials/Worlds/Olympics has been in place since 2019 and it seems like it has worked in Australia's favour.

Ive got no doubt that Australia will step up again in Paris!

I just hope Europe and Asia do as well to keep the Americans at bay

 

There is part of me that believes we swam

in a very slow pool (women’s 200 free was really the only event faster than expected, maybe Kaylee 2IM) and weren’t fully rested, so maybe we’ll improve heaps in Paris. There’s also part of me that thinks I might be delusional. Surely none of the sprint free boys would risk not being tapered in such a close field.

However, that did kind of happen in Fukuoka so who knows. 
 

It would be so funny if all our swimmers who said “oh I’m really not happy with that time” and acted all sullen at trials all just went massive PBs in Paris. Like an orchestrated trolling.

5 hours ago, Cinnamon Bun said:

That's not the case. In point 2 of the OCT section of this document https://www.worldaquatics.com/competitions/paris-2024-swimming-info it states that any athlete who has achieved an OCT but also an OQT in another event will have their place reallocated to the next fastest OCT in that athletes OCT event. 

 

The only exception I believe to the OQT and OCT rules is that an athlete who has achieved an OCT time can enter an event that their NOC already has 1 or 2 OQT for if said NOC rejects all OQT places achieved. E.g.  Joe Litchfield will be able to compete in the Men's 100m Fly in Paris despite not having the OQT because  will reject Peters and Gammon's OQT quotas before the OCT and universality quotas are awarded. 

I feel like this was kind of already answered by someone else but that’s not right. Point 2 says their PLACE will be reallocated (they don’t need a place because are already entered with their OQT), but then point 10 applies which allows them to enter 1 event with an OCT.

Your interpretation doesn’t make sense because that would mean point 10 can’t possibly ever apply to anyone.

20 minutes ago, maestro said:

A swimmer has an OQT in event A and an OCT in event B.

 

There isn't anyone with an OQT from that NOC in event B.

 

Is that swimmer allowed to start in both events?

 

My answer would be certainly not, but apparently our federation thinks they are. 

Yea that’s right, you can. If a swimmer has an A cut they are allowed to enter one other event with a B cut if their nation doesn’t already have an entry

3 hours ago, dantm said:

Our mixed medley team looks strong and on times,its very close to US

Kaylee

Sam 

Temple

MOC

 

If MOC is in touch when she jumps in,its game on.

This is true but Temple looked terrible at trials, he’ll have a double with the 100 fly and Kaylee will have a double with the 2IM. Chinese team will be fully fresh. Would say outside chance of gold at best

28 minutes ago, Dkats said:

My hopes are too high because of Fukuoka 😂

Haha I thought Fukuoka trials were decent but then USA had way better trials. But then it just all came together for us.

Almost everything fell our way and I don’t think that’ll happen again

8 minutes ago, Dkats said:

I think with Kaylee it’s probably smart heading in to assume that she doesn't win least 1 of her backstroke events to smith, probably 100. 
If she just goes on to successfully defend both that would honestly be crazy as with Aus only a few swimmers have ever done that.

At this games she could become our greatest ever swimmer if she wins all 3 events 

I’m hoping for it but I’ll be shocked if Kaylee wins all 3. She is the solid favourite in the 200 back but the other 2 are toss ups at best

1 hour ago, dantm said:

Based on my predictions for Swimming,Ive got the US at 8 Gold.

W 100m Backstroke -Regan Smith.

This is 50/50 and could well go to Kaylee.Ive only got Smith ahead as she just broke the WR

M 100m Butterfly -Caeleb Dressel

Dressel for the Gold,but this event is stacked with 5-6 guys around the same time.

W 800m Butterfly -Gretchen Walsh

This one is solid for the USA who could easily go 1-2

W 800m/1500m Freestyle

Katie Ledecky -Nothing more to be said

M 1500m Freestyle -Bobby Finke

Without Hafanoui ,Finke is the favourite here

M 4x 100m Freestyle

USA will take down the WR here.Heavy favourites

W 4 x 100m Medley Relay

USA Women's have 3 of the WR holders in this (Smith,King and Walsh)

 

USA Men's Breastroke is currently worse than Australia and they will likely struggle against the Chinese in the Medley Relay

GB look too good for Mens 4 x 200m Free relay.

 

 

 

I love this but it also seems very optimistic. Dressel and Smith are the only events that aren’t heavy favourites that you’ve given gold to. M800 free, M100 back, M200 back,  Men’s medley, W200 fly, W200 breast, W200 back, W200IM and mixed medley are all possibilities. I find it hard to believe they’ll convert 0 of those 

Swimming is the only discipline I’m well versed in so I’ll give my “contenders”. I’m being somewhat generous with these tbh.

Gold contenders

F

50 Free: 

100 Free: Mollie O’Callaghan, Shayna Jack

200 Free: Ariarne Titmus, Mollie O’Callaghan

400 Free: Ariarne Titmus

800 Free: Ariarne Titmus

1500 Free:

100 Back: Kaylee McKeown

200 Back: Kaylee McKeown

100 Fly: 

200 Fly: Lizzie Dekkers

100 Breast: 

200 Breast: 

200IM: Kaylee McKeown

400IM: 

4x100 Free: YES

4x200 Free: YES

Medley relay: (Only if USA is disqualified)

M

50 Free: Cam McEvoy

100 Free: Kyle Chalmers (extremely unlikely)

200 Free: 

400 Free: Sam Short, Elijah Winnington

800 Free: Sam Short

1500 Free:

100 Back: 

200 Back: 

100 Fly: Matt Temple (very outside)

200 Fly: 

100 Breast: 

200 Breast: Zac Stubblety-Cook

200IM: 

400IM: 

4x100 Free: No

4x200 Free: No

Medley relay: No

Medal contenders (not counting those in gold above)

F

50 Free: Shayna Jack, Meg Harris

100 Free: 

200 Free: 

400 Free:

800 Free: Lani Pallister

1500 Free: Lani Pallister

100 Back: Iona Anderson

200 Back: Jaclyn Barclay

100 Fly: 

200 Fly: 

100 Breast: 

200 Breast: 

200IM: 

400IM: 

4x100 Free: 

4x200 Free: 

Medley relay: Yes

M

50 Free: 

100 Free:

200 Free

400 Free:

800 Free: Elijah Winnington

1500 Free:

100 Back: 

200 Back: 

100 Fly: 

200 Fly: 

100 Breast: 

200 Breast: 

200IM: 

400IM: 

4x100 Free: Yes

4x200 Free: Yes

Medley relay: Yes

Plus a solid shot at Mixed Medley relay medal and outside shot at gold

Neill will swim the 200 free. Armbruster the 100 fly. Lee the 200IM. 

After killing it in the 100 fly and back, Regan Smith’s 200s were both much slower than expected. Interesting times to come.

Also Claire Curzan who allegedly did the “backstroke sweep” in Doha misses the team altogether 

A few things:

1. Chelsea Hodges just surprise retired following chronic injuries and surgeries. I’m devastated. She’ll always be an Olympic champion though.

2. @NearPup I agree they should aim for 20 swimmers in events with semis. Don’t care if there’s less than 20 if there’s no semis anyway. Could force universality swimmers to only enter events that are low on numbers. That could be fun.

3. NearPup again: Your second point kind of defeats the whole purpose of A and B cuts. This would lead to the strong swimming countries, who already have an advantage, sneaking in extra individual swimmers using relay spots. You would end up with swimmers from smaller countries not being invited while slower swimmers from big swim countries racing individually purely because their country has good relays. I don’t think flooding the heats with extra B cut swimmers who have no chance of medalling is necessarily a positive.

1 hour ago, dullard said:

Liendo's 100 fly is also a Commonwealth record. Not sure I see Temple getting it back at trials.

I agree. Temple doesn’t really need to fully rest for trials given he keeps going sub 51 while unrested, but also he can’t afford to risk being totally in work.

I suspect he does a drop taper and goes a 50 mid and then we’ll see what he has in Paris