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29 minutes ago, Bailer said:

God, I hope so. I just want a pro-European government, that's all. Man, we're tired.

But these are the times when being pro-EU is no longer cool, unfortunately. That ended around 2010. Now there are plenty of Orbans, Radevs, Trumps, Le Pens, AFDs, etc. Even the Magyar in Hun didn't say much about the EU, because the Hungarians didn't want to hear it. I'm afraid that some Radev-like emerge will soon in Slovakia, because Fico is probably too discredited and will take all power. It's important that it's more of a Magyar than Radev, but Russia will certainly does to get someone of its own there. Especially since, apart from maybe Poland and the Czech Republic, in the entire post-USSR bloc, most people still simply like Russia.

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We'll see – Radev has complete power... If he's clever, he'll take over all the media, institutions, tribunals etc., and will does propaganda that poverty exists because the EU, LGBT and the Green Deal are bad :lol: Orban ruled terribly, but for 16 years, he was elected in Hungary thanks to propaganda. It's not that only you have to rule well to have high support. It's just that from what people are writing, Radev isn't as clever as Orban... On the other hand, if he were stupid, he wouldn't have won yesterday with 45%. He can't be underestimated, at all.

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I have done some reading about Bulgaria since 1990 and have come to the conclusion that this country remember a little a Ukraine, only it's located a bit better, which is why it's in the EU and NATO. Unfortunately, corruption is big there, and essentially nothing has changed since the 1990s. A huge opportunity was missed. Is it strange that after joining the EU, nothing changed that`s and the EU accepted this country without any reforms? I remember that when Poland joined the EU, it wasn't that simple. Strange. In any case, in 1991, Bulgaria had an 85% voter turnout, and now it's barely 50% and that's a success. Apparently, people have had enough. Neighboring Romania has probably made much more progress since the 1990s, but it must be admitted that it's a much larger country. Currently, Bulgaria can only count on the development of tourism as its main economy, right?

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3 hours ago, copravolley said:

Unfortunately, corruption is big there, and essentially nothing has changed since the 1990s. A huge opportunity was missed.

Is it strange that after joining the EU, nothing changed that`s and the EU accepted this country without any reforms

Neighboring Romania has probably made much more progress since the 1990s, but it must be admitted that it's a much larger country. 

Corruption is a plague in the Balkans. It's a cultural heritage, a "trojan horse" of the ottoman administration; I honestly doubt this can be adressed in a predictable future.

 

Regarding Bulgaria, I share your amazement, especially knowing that the EU was the driving force behind Romania’s progress. Yesterday I had a bout of nostalgia— I watched some YouTube videos depicting Bucharest in the '90s and, believe me, it looked like stone age..

If the lights light up exactly at the correct moment, he was definitely first, since his light went on first. Not sure if those lights are 100% accurate though?

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8 minutes ago, zob79 said:

Corruption is a plague in the Balkans. It's a cultural heritage, a "trojan horse" of the ottoman administration; I honestly doubt this can be adressed in a predictable future.

 

Regarding Bulgaria, I share your amazement, especially knowing that the EU was the driving force behind Romania’s progress. Yesterday I had a bout of nostalgia— I watched some YouTube videos depicting Bucharest in the '90s and, believe me, it looked like stone age..

I traveled to Turkey with my parents in 1995 as a kid, and I remember driving through Bulgaria was nightmare- we purposely lined up in 2 or 3 cars because it was dangerous traveled alone. The Romanian- Bulgarian and Bulgarian- Turkish borders were a horrible remember, although the Hungarians always held their border with some problems. In the 1990s, however, Hungary was the richest country in the region- even richer than Poland and the Czech Republic, but that's changed now, but was definitely safe to drive there without fear. Overall, I have the impression that Bulgaria/Romania was more dangerous in the 1990s than in the 1980/1970. I lived in Poland in the 1990s, and it was also quite dangerous: almost 0 km of highways, mafias, street shootings, etc. 30 years ago, there were also a lot of prostitutes from Bulgaria in Poland, and there were a few cases of someone murdering them. It wasn't a very dangerous time and now I'd be afraid of such trips, but people did. My father even traveled to Bulgaria and Romania in the 1970s and '80s, as did many people in that times.

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Agree; that's the key concept to depict life in Romania 1990s: insecurity. In Bucharest you couldn't go out after nightfall without risking being mugged. I never saw a police car in my neighbourhood during the '90s :facepalm:

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If the lights light up exactly at the correct moment, he was definitely first, since his light went on first. Not sure if those lights are 100% accurate though?

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21 minutes ago, copravolley said:

I traveled to Turkey with my parents in 1995 as a kid, and I remember driving through Bulgaria was nightmare- we purposely lined up in 2 or 3 cars because it was dangerous traveled alone. 

This happened until 2010s, travellers were hijacked by criminals impersonating Bulgarian policemen; felt like Wild West 

 

Tbh, if heywoody travelled through Romania, I'd pull the same stunt nowadays :p

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If the lights light up exactly at the correct moment, he was definitely first, since his light went on first. Not sure if those lights are 100% accurate though?

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8 minutes ago, zob79 said:

This happened until 2010s, travellers were hijacked by criminals impersonating Bulgarian policemen; felt like Wild West 

 

Tbh, if heywoody travelled through Romania, I'd pull the same stunt nowadays

Well, maybe not until 2010, but until 2000, and it was probably safer there under the communists, than in 1990 years? I traveled to Croatia alone in 2006, via Hungary and Bosnia, but those were more peaceful times :) Generally, during the communist era, Poles would travel to Bulgaria in 3-4 cars for holidays- it was safer at all. And it worked the same way the other way around. If a Bulgarian/Rumunian person were traveling alone to Poland in 1995 and don`t know its realities, they might have had problems with the police or other dangerous, for example. 

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4 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Well, maybe not until 2010, but until 2000, and it was probably safer there under the communists, than in 1990 years? I traveled to Croatia alone in 2006, via Hungary and Bosnia, but those were more peaceful times :) Generally, during the communist era, Poles would travel to Bulgaria in 3-4 cars for holidays- it was safer at all. And it worked the same way the other way around. If a Bulgarian/Rumunian person were traveling alone to Poland in 1995 and don`t know its realities, they might have had problems with the police or other dangerous, for example. 

It happened to a friend of mine in 2008, I remember it vividly.

 

Yes, travelling in Eastern Europe was safer during communism, as police kept a tight grip on society

 

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If the lights light up exactly at the correct moment, he was definitely first, since his light went on first. Not sure if those lights are 100% accurate though?

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