[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[George_D 1,474]

5 hours ago, phelps said:

Italy is the place in Europe with most Putin's fans that hope to see him destroy EU and invade our Country to rule it like it's Russia  

 

but except for a few fanatics, I think that most people doesn't even know what's really happening out East

 

our media are full of propaganda in favor of both sides (depending on the political orientation), but in all cases there's the feeling that's not a thing really close to us

 

should something truly happen, we would show the world that we're totally imprepared for anything serious (we can't even manage those few illegal immigrants coming here on the ferry boats from North Africa...how could we cope with a true war? )

not only in Italy but in other countries like Greece and Cyprus also happens the same. They consider Putin as the anti-globalization "leader" against all those they regard as responsible (they call them "new world order") for the planet's and their country  economic (and maybe other ones as well) problems ...

[heywoodu 16,137]

Just now, George_D said:

not only in Italy but in other countries like Greece and Cyprus also happens the same. They consider Putin as the anti-globalization "leader" against all those they regard as responsible (they call them "new world order") for the planet's and their country  economic (and maybe other ones as well) problems ...

Is it the same as here? Usually the people here who are pro-Putin are exactly the same kind of people who are anti-vax, anti-EU, believing in every single conspiracy, from the moon landing being a hoax to 9/11 to Pizzagate  

[phelps 8,384]

5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Is it the same as here? Usually the people here who are pro-Putin are exactly the same kind of people who are anti-vax, anti-EU, believing in every single conspiracy, from the moon landing being a hoax to 9/11 to Pizzagate  

yes, they are! 

 

the problem is that here in Italy there are a lot of them...and they're also very noticeable in our society, our media, all around 

 

p.s. being anti-EU is a good thing 

it's everything else that's a disaster 

Edited March 19, 2024 by phelps

[heywoodu 16,137]

6 minutes ago, phelps said:

yes, they are! 

 

the problem is that here in Italy there are a lot of them...and they're also very noticeable in our society, our media, all around 

 

p.s. being anti-EU is a good thing 

it's everything else that's a disaster 

It's fun to always see super strong anti-EU sentiments....but then people and countries who seem to be strongly against it, are the ones eating up the billions of euros in subsidies like candies  

[bestmen 2,909]

Look at that 

 

[lapaj 428]

Terror attack in Moscow!

 

 

 

[George_D 1,474]

On 3/19/2024 at 10:56 PM, heywoodu said:

Is it the same as here? Usually the people here who are pro-Putin are exactly the same kind of people who are anti-vax, anti-EU, believing in every single conspiracy, from the moon landing being a hoax to 9/11 to Pizzagate  

exactly the same. 100%.

Here in Greece and Cyprus there is also another reason. Because of USA's role (especially Kissinger's who was secretary of State that time) in turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 a great part of people have anti-us sentiments and they have the illusion that if Cyprus takes Russia's side then Putin will send the army to attack Turks in Cyprus.

Or they say: "All western europe countries and USA came to aid Ukraine, but why they left us alone against the Turks?? why they dont codemn them or sanction them in the same way they do with Russia after their invasion of Ukraine??"

[heywoodu 16,137]

1 hour ago, lapaj said:

Terror attack in Moscow!

 

 

 

Give it a few hours (or less) until the official statements start appearing about Ukraine being behind this, coincidentally. Let's just say if Putin's favourite band was playing tonight, he would have skipped tonight's show.

[lapaj 428]

4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Give it a few hours (or less) until the official statements start appearing about Ukraine being behind this, coincidentally. Let's just say if Putin's favourite band was playing tonight, he would have skipped tonight's show.

Ukraine denied it already!

 

One catched:

 

 

[heywoodu 16,137]

22 minutes ago, lapaj said:

Ukraine denied it already!

Yeah, can't be quick enough to deny it because everyone knows where Russia is going to put the blame  

 

I mean, Medvedev has apparently all kind of done that.

 

 

Edit: Word is now that three people from Ingushetia are wanted. That'd be the number one guess I think, one of those republics in the mountains?

Edited March 22, 2024 by heywoodu