heywoodu 15,353 Posted December 13, 2018 #61 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 9:56 AM, phelps said: personally, I really hate it...I find it unfair...you can score the grand total of 2 points in the whole match and your opponent can score 20 points and you still have a chance to win it...it sucks big time! Expand Means the opponent was not exactly smart with their energy distribution . Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-184813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,847 Posted December 13, 2018 #62 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 10:06 AM, heywoodu said: Means the opponent was not exactly smart with their energy distribution Expand not necessarily...if you win a very close 1st round, then you can give up the second and take more than a short breathe, so to have quite an advantage in the 3rd and decisive stint... and this would eventually lead to many matches decided by the 1st round score and the consequential opportunistic tactics... to me, that's unfair and moreover it makes watching the sport less enjoyable... Wrestling (with all the difference of the case) should have given quite a lesson about that, but it looks that nobody went to school at the time... Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-184816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,847 Posted December 13, 2018 #63 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2018 WT Grand Slam Champions Series (Wuxi, CHN) Day #2 Results http://www.worldtaekwondo.org/results-day-2-wuxi-2018-wt-grand-slam-champions-series/ Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-184839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,847 Posted December 14, 2018 #64 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2018 WT Grand Slam Champions Series (Wuxi, CHN) Day #3 (Quarterfinals) Results http://www.worldtaekwondo.org/results-day-3-wuxi-2018-wt-grand-slam-champions-series/ Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-184988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,847 Posted December 15, 2018 #65 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 2018 WT Grand Slam Champions Series (Wuxi, CHN) Day #4 (Semifinals) Results women's -49kg Panipak Wongpattanakit b. Kang Bo Ra Ha Min-Ah b. Tan Xueqin women's -57kg Jade Jones b. Marija Stetic Zhou Lijun b. Lee Ah-Reum women's -67kg Lauren Williams b. Ruth Gbagbi Nur Tatar Askari b. Guo Yunfei women's +67kg Bianca Walkden b. Aleksandra Kowalczuk Madelynn Gorman-Shore b. Rebecca McGowan men's -58kg Liu Yushuai b. Kim Tae-Hun Jang Jun b. Armin Hadipour men's -68kg Bradly Sinden b. Lee Dae-Hoon (1st loss of the entire season for him...and it came with a spectacular kick to the head at the last second of round #2 by Sinden...top hit of the year, for sure) Zhao Shuai b. Javier Perez Polo men's -80kg Maksim Khramtcov b. Chen Linglong Hwan Nam Goong b. Milad Beigi men's +80kg In Kyo-Don b. Sun Hongyi Sajjad Mardani b. Song Zhaoxiang Edited December 15, 2018 by phelps MHSN 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-185077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,661 Posted December 15, 2018 #66 Share Posted December 15, 2018 wow so many surprising results. Kim Tae-hun and Lee Dae-hoon losing in the same day (not to even great opponents) Lee DH losing to Sindon is indeed the biggest surprise of the year. also Milad Beigi lost to a guy from Korea. Beigi used to destroy everybody a year ago but he is just another good athlete these days. we had a small team here. only 2. Hadipour will fight for bronze (unfortunately for him that will be against Kim TH) but Mardani !! will be in gold medal match. this guy Mardani is in national team program for few years. and I never liked him. I hate his conservative style and I can't understand how he get some good results sometimes. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-185130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,847 Posted December 15, 2018 #67 Share Posted December 15, 2018 there's a chance Kim Tae-Hun won't show up tomorrow in the Bronze Medal match (in Fujarah he gave up once he wasn't in the big final, as it looks he's not 100% healthy)... Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-185138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,661 Posted December 15, 2018 #68 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 12:34 PM, phelps said: there's a chance Kim Tae-Hun won't show up tomorrow in the Bronze Medal match (in Fujarah he gave up once he wasn't in the big final, as it looks he's not 100% healthy)... Expand I see, Hadipour beat him once in Manchester GP final but he lost more to this guy (including 2017 World Champs final). so he will be underdog if Kim TH shows up. Kim lost here and there to Iranians before but the guy who never lost to our athletes is Lee Dae-hoon he won every single match he had vs the Iranians. I remember Yaghoubi, Asbaghi, Hosseini, Bakhshi and Naderian losing to him. (probably there are more names in the list) they are all very good fighters, almost all of them World medalists, but none of them could find a solution for this guy he is a nice guy and also he is VERY popular in East Asia ! they consider him very handsome. but with WT increasing the number of competitions, there are more chances top athletes participating when they are not 100% and pick up some defeats. maybe losing sometimes is not that big surprise. but the money prize for this event is bigger than other competitions, that's quite a motivation Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-185184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,661 Posted December 16, 2018 #69 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Hadipour beat Kim TH for bronze he was lucky the format is different in medal round. this is best of 5 instead of best of 3 for men. Kim won first 2 rounds narrowly 3-2 and 6-3 but Hadipour came back strongly to win next 3 rounds. with some great advises from his coach. both were deadly tired in last 2 rounds . Hadipour was smart listening to his coach changing his style entirely. funny that since Grand Slam is not a part of NT program. both Hadipour and Mardani are here on their own with their own coach. (and not the national coach Askari) turned out to be a good thing for them I'm heading out and will miss Mardani's final . as much as I don't like him still I hope he wins a gold somewhere finally I watched few matches in past few days. I think this format is not a total disaster as it was in wrestling. still I prefer the current format. Edited December 16, 2018 by MHSN Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-185298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,847 Posted December 16, 2018 #70 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2018 WT Grand Slam Champions Series (Wuxi, CHN) Day #5 (Finals) Results women's -49kg Gold: Panipak Wongpattanakit Silver: Ha Min-Ah Bronze: Tan Xueqin women's -57kg Gold: Zhou Lijun Silver: Jade Jones Bronze: Lee Ah-Reum women's -67kg Gold: Lauren Williams Silver: Nur Tatar Askari Bronze: Ruth Gbagbi women's +67kg Gold: Bianca Walkden Silver: Madelynn Gorman-Shore Bronze: Aleksandra Kowalczuk men's -58kg Gold: Jang Jun Silver: Liu Yushuai Bronze: Armin Hadipour men's -68kg Gold: Zhao Shuai Silver: Bradly Sinden Bronze: Lee Dae-Hoon men's -80kg Gold: Maksim Khramtcov Silver: Hwan Nam Goong Bronze: Milad Beigi men's +80kg Gold: Sajjad Mardani Silver: In Kyo-Don Bronze: Song Zhaoxiang Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/806-taekwondo-2018-discussion-thread/page/7/#findComment-185339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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